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SeaGates
post Jan 5 2009, 10:42 PM

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I called them earlier and they say there will still be outage due to the undersea cables damage, although I find it strange that 2 days ago my connection was totally smooth to Germany based servers and now it's crawling slower than a sloth.

They say fixes will be in place by around this evening(which is over) or tomorrow. We'll see..
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post Jan 7 2009, 03:19 PM

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Oversea site pings :

Ping statistics for 160.79.128.9:
Packets: Sent = 50, Received = 34, Lost = 16 (32% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 293ms, Maximum = 295ms, Average = 294ms

Ping statistics for 87.106.139.137:
Packets: Sent = 50, Received = 37, Lost = 13 (26% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 237ms, Maximum = 239ms, Average = 237ms

Ping statistics for 78.46.37.42:
Packets: Sent = 50, Received = 36, Lost = 14 (28% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 239ms, Maximum = 242ms, Average = 241ms

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post Jan 8 2009, 01:48 PM

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Seems like routing is still an issue now. Problem is how long they want to take to optimize their re-routing? doh.gif
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post Jan 8 2009, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(mylinear @ Jan 8 2009, 04:34 PM)
I have made a personnel of the Streamyx / Internet Complaints dept aware of this thread. I have also asked the manager / asst manager of the dept to be made aware of this thread.
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Being aware is one thing, doing something about it is another doh.gif

They might just ignore this citing the connection is at '70% capacity' which is their minimum 'best of service' mark rclxub.gif
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post Jan 8 2009, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(mylinear @ Jan 8 2009, 04:50 PM)
Well, that is true. But being aware is the first step.  We can only hope.

Whoever from TM who is reading this now knows what users are complaining about. And users now know at least 2-3 people are aware of these complaints. Let us see whether you do the correct thing and highlight all these to the relevant depts for action to be taken.

And it is high time TM management does something to compensate users. A minimum of half month to a month of subscription fee should be refunded to users.


Added on January 8, 2009, 4:56 pmWell, finally TM has just updated its website announcement and removed the 20 Dec cable cut news which was never updated.
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Compensation? laugh.gif You're kidding right?

That's too much to ask out of them really, just give me back a normal connection and I am happy enough doh.gif

Stop sending our data round and round the world to get to somewhere for god sake vmad.gif
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post Jan 8 2009, 10:03 PM

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44% loss to europe still. tongue.gif

4 ping is just not consistent, try using 50 sample.
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post Jan 8 2009, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(mylinear @ Jan 8 2009, 10:12 PM)
Using ping -n 10 will do. It should show packet loss if any. At most -n 20.

If everyone ping -n 50, TM will think there is a DDOS attack and pull out the cable...
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32byte DDOS attack? laugh.gif Might as well send bigger packet right
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post Jan 8 2009, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(mylinear @ Jan 8 2009, 11:35 PM)
About my remark on DDOS, I guess my subtle sarcasm may have been lost...  Yes 32 bytes won't do it,  yes you need massive amounts of data. My point was we are talking about TM, who knows what they will think - was taking a jab at them...
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TMnet Techie 1 : whoa, full 128kbps upload speed from this user!
Tmnet Techie 2 : OMG It's a DOS, with our connection it's impossible to reach that speed! cut his line!
User : What the? Why my counsterstrike disconnected?

That's the best I can give back tongue.gif TM requested an email with my ping data yesterday, and they've just replied to it just now.

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Dear Mr. K,

Thank you for your e-mail. Firstly, we would like to apologise for the late reply.

We refer to Streamyx connection issue, please be informed upon verifying in our system we found the restoration of the report number 1-300-88-2525 still in the midst of the investigation. We have notified the Technical Department on your e-mail and we really appreciate your kind patience, as we will try our best effort to resolve this problem.


For further assistance or feedback, kindly e-mail us at help@tm.com.my.
Alternatively, you can also contact TM at 100 and select "Internet Services".

We would like to thank you for your feedback and we look forward to serving you better.


Regards,

Mohd Rosaini Ibrahim
Customer Care Support, Internet Services,
Customer Service Management,
TM Retail.

www.tm.com.my
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post Jan 9 2009, 03:24 PM

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I am on the phone with the 9515 for about 30 minutes now. I am pushing for answer since the call attendant keep giving me 'not sure' 'don't know' 'in progress' as answer.

Seems that they're not treating this issue as an big technical problem, but rather they're treating this problem more like 'isolated case' where it takes '2 working days' to solve every issue.
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post Jan 9 2009, 06:34 PM

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It is still bad here unfortunately
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post Jan 9 2009, 06:49 PM

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Ping statistics for 160.79.128.9:(www.di.fm)
Packets: Sent = 50, Received = 35, Lost = 15 (30% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 356ms, Maximum = 365ms, Average = 358ms

Ping statistics for 87.106.139.137:(www.gameforge.de)
Packets: Sent = 50, Received = 35, Lost = 15 (30% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 315ms, Maximum = 319ms, Average = 317ms

Still fail =/

Added:

Ping statistics for 216.91.182.78:(savvis.net)
Packets: Sent = 50, Received = 50, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 301ms, Maximum = 308ms, Average = 304ms

Ping statistics for 64.235.224.5:(mzima.net)
Packets: Sent = 50, Received = 27, Lost = 23 (46% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 450ms, Maximum = 454ms, Average = 451ms

IP now is 118.100.x.x


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post Jan 9 2009, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(vccy118 @ Jan 9 2009, 06:52 PM)
Try to change IP? i am running on 60.53.x.x
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I can never get 60 range IP, only 118/124
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post Jan 9 2009, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(mylinear @ Jan 9 2009, 06:58 PM)
SeaGates, the ping times are fairly ok, at least better than previously. But its the packet loss. Are you on 1Mbps? Which general area are you in, if you don't mind?

Also, maybe it takes time for things to shake out into place. The links are suddenly having to do extra work after being asleep for sooo looong...

Just saw your additional comments. See how the mzima.net is such different ping times?
The www.di.fm is going HK -> Tokyo -> LA. There is packet loss somewhere on the way. This is the sort of bad routing TM has been having causing all sorts of problems for us.
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I am using 512kbps, and I am staying in Bandar Sungai Long

I am not concerned with latency nor I am concerned with bandwidth as I don't do huge download often. I can compensate for 0.5ms, it's hardly significant unless you're doing games that require low latency. It's the packet loss that annoys because some games will see it as timeout and disconnect you or the game fail to respond to your input.

I don't know but things did not improve for sites/services that I use unfortunately. So I am still not happy, as with the routing I already raised my concern to them about it and asked them to stop throwing out data all over the place before reaching our destination. I don't like listening to my radio when it's choppy.

Re-ping:
Ping statistics for 216.91.182.78:
Packets: Sent = 50, Received = 50, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 301ms, Maximum = 335ms, Average = 304ms

Ping statistics for 64.235.224.5:
Packets: Sent = 50, Received = 30, Lost = 20 (40% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 450ms, Maximum = 454ms, Average = 451ms

Ping statistics for 216.193.218.26:
Packets: Sent = 50, Received = 45, Lost = 5 (10% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 437ms, Maximum = 446ms, Average = 440ms

Ping statistics for 160.79.128.9:
Packets: Sent = 50, Received = 36, Lost = 14 (28% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 356ms, Maximum = 360ms, Average = 357ms


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post Jan 9 2009, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(mylinear @ Jan 9 2009, 09:26 PM)
ATTN: TM Techs (if you are reading)
Route is London -> New York -> Loas Angeles. Should take direct US route.
Route is London -> US. Should take direct US route.
Route is Hong Kong -> Tokyo -> Los Angeles. Should take direct US route.
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Kinda pointless to just reroute specific routes etc, imo they should do a general reroute so they don't send everything around the world before reaching any destination.

The route to Germany is direct but it's still slow, so I wonder why, I can be wrong on that though, not sure how tracert reacts with router based connection.

Speed and latency is ok now, just need to rectify the vital packet loss problem.

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post Jan 10 2009, 01:52 PM

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Connection still fails, up to 50% packet loss now. Call up and they keep saying 'under investigation'. How long they want to investigate vmad.gif
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post Jan 10 2009, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(selinix @ Jan 10 2009, 03:07 PM)
Same here ... international is either not loading or it takes ages to load ...

Which area are you from?
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Bandar Sungai Long, Kajang/Cheras area.

I've just finished my phone call with them, I managed to get the supervisor to talk to me, and here's what I have.

- There's contradicting party in the department, some say it's isolated cases, some say there's still fault with the international link.
- I suspect it's a fault at international link, because I am not the only one getting high packet loss from sites in Europe/US.
- If point 2 is true, it's a nationwide problem, TMnet assigned departments have emergency teams to tackle these issue?
- Supervisor also say he will hear more from the network engineer by Monday, that simply defeat the point of me calling up urgently on Wednesday hoping they fix it before weekend so I can use it properly through the weekend doh.gif

QUOTE(Meis @ Jan 10 2009, 03:21 PM)
for the pass 2 or 3 days, the connection seems fine to me

im no longer getting lousy disconnections... it was such a pain in the =_=

downloads are at full speed, im now no longer have headache  laugh.gif
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I am getting full speed and decent latency as well. It's the packet loss that's causing all kind of problem. Packet loss affects application that requires constant low bandwidth streaming, like net radio or games that require constant input from user.

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