December 19, 2008
Is the internet going down? Undersea sub-cables have just broken...

Internetcables

Breaking news: something's happening to the internet, right now. We're just not quite sure what.

Interoute, the internet networks company, reports that three of the four internet sub-cables that run from Asia to North America have been damaged.

These carry more than 75 per cent of traffic between the Middle East, Europe and America. It's hard to gather what this actually means - is it that the internet is down or (more likely) significantly slower than usual between the Middle East and America? (If you're reading this, let's face it, the internet has not shut down altogether)

But, according to the company, there is a domino effect taking place. Interoute says it is:

"hearing that offices have lost their entire private network connectivity. As a result, users are unable to do their daily job over the internet and are turning to their mobile phones to communicate across the globe. This is having a knock on effect on the domestic voice networks, which are getting a surge of calls needing to be routed internationally. These calls need to be routed onto international gateways that pass voice traffic in longer directions around the world to avoid the cable breaks – causing more quality issues and risk more call failures, in turn causing more calls to be placed and increasing the pressure on local voice networks. "

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Do your internet connection feel slower?
I have problem connecting to internasional sites ( I alway do though )

This post has been edited by Hisyamudin: Dec 20 2008, 09:10 AM

connecting to [H] is still fast,, w00t

December 19th, 2008
Streamyx Interruption to Europe

There appears to be a interruption in Streamyx’s link to Europe resulting in heavy loss and dropped connections.

This has happened at exactly the same time on all our Europe based servers in different datacentres and furthermore European sites refuse to load properly or do so very slowly. Corporate lines on TMNet are also affected so it appears to be a major routing issue.

European/UK based sites are refusing to load in a timely manner. Some examples:

1. BBC UK
2. European Union Website
3. Barclays Bank
4. HSBC UK

US sites also showed a degradation in speed.

We will keep you updated on any new developments. Meanwhile stay calm and start calling TM’s support lines!

Update 4:55 PM

taken from bolehvpn blog

now internet is okay ya ... i can torrent back again

why the undersea cable can suddenly broken ??? is there an earthquake or what ???

godzilla woke up that's why.
in other news, i have no problems with international sites so far.

slow connect to international sites...as usual....but seem this time is more slower

http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/12/19/t...b-cables-broken

ym n messenger takleh masuk. lol.

coolness can rot n die

According to the BBC, there are 3 cables affected: FLAG's Europe-Asia, South East Asia–Middle East–Western Europe 4, and SEA-ME-WE 3. Interestingly it was the disruption of the SEA-ME-WE 3 in early 2007 off Taiwan that isolated Malaysia.

I'm not sure why it is affecting Malaysia so much, as our main links are actually to the USA via the Japan-US/HK-US cables (via the Mersing-Shantou/Lantau section of the SEA-ME-WE 3). Probably the Middle-East and India rerouting their connections eastwards towards East Asia and across the Pacific.

Connections to Malaysia/Singapore still fine from the southern hemisphere via the Australia-Japan cable.

still not feeling da heat... m'sia to china still ok

Did anyone really wonder why the cables between Middle East Asia and Europe always get snapped when you do not have much natural disaster going on there?

These people have nothing to do and with the oil prices plunging, they say sabotaging could never be ruled out.
Incidents like these is not new even earlier this year it has been going on since last December till now.

Flag Telecom has Indian interests and the undersea cable mainly connects Europe and South Asia.

Do some Googling and you would find some interesting news about this story.

Here's an example:

DOHA — Damage to several undersea telecom cables that caused outages across the Middle East and Asia could have been an act of sabotage, the International Telecommunication Union said on Monday.

"We do not want to pre-empt the results of ongoing investigations, but we do not rule out that a deliberate act of sabotage caused the damage to the undersea cables over two weeks ago," the UN agency's head of development, Sami al-Murshed, told AFP.

Five undersea cables were damaged in late January and early February, leading to disruption to Internet and telephone services in parts of the Middle East and south Asia.

There has been speculation that the sheer number of cables being cut over such a short period was too much of a coincidence and that sabotage must have been involved.

India's Flag telecom revealed on Feb. 7 that the cut to the Falcon cable between the United Arab Emirates and Oman was caused by a ship's anchor. But mystery shrouds what caused another four reported cuts.

"Some experts doubt the prevailing view that the cables were cut by accident, especially as the cables lie at great depths under the sea and are not passed over by ships," Murshed said on the sidelines of a conference on cyber-crime held in Gulf state of Qatar.

The Falcon cable has since been repaired, along with the Flag Europe Asia (FEA) cable which was damaged off Egypt's Mediterranean coast. The status of the remaining cable is still unclear.

http://www.france24.com/en/20080218-mideas...le-cut-sabotage

Go Go HINDRAF!

I'm curious, if those cables are the main cause of the international access outage, why only certain area and certain ISP is affected? Why won't it affect the whole region?

different isp use different routing line. certain area also using the same principle.

hua3...
dah 2 weeks i can't access certain site
like example : myspace.com , iluvislam.com and other international..
to reaccess the site, i need to use proxy..
but certain proxy especially managed by Pak Arab blocked MySpace Blog.
but myspace is not block...
huhuhu...

TMNet SucKs

WTH?! Underwater cables, conspiracy theories, sabotage......good God I'm gonna make a movie out of this.

Oh noes! teh terrorists are attacking teh interwebz!!

The line is fixed. Suddenly all my websites are loading extremely fast.

Damn !

The other day I just talked about underwater cables and how Taiwan earth movement cause havoc and today we got this !

Damn !!



This post has been edited by convivencia: Dec 20 2008, 05:09 PM

nothing change streamyx is normal

ouch this sucks

I was having problem as far as 11 Dec, but the news only came out at 19 Dec. I hope the slowdown is related to this event or else tmnut is screwing big time.

news update

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Added on December 21, 2008, 11:28 amALERT: Undersea cable fault disrupts some TM Internet services(Bernama)


KUALA LUMPUR, SUN:

Telekom Malaysia Berhad ™ has reported disruption in its Internet services due to circuit faults on the submarine cable network linking Malaysia and Europe, and said the services would be completely restored by Dec 31.
TM said in a statement today that customers using its Internet services may experience slow browsing while accessing websites hosted in Europe and that those using other IP (Internet Protocol) services such as Virtual Private Network (VPN) and other critical business applications linked to Europe may also experience some service degradation.

It said the affected cables, on the Southeast Asia-Middle East-Western Europe 4 (SMW4) submarine network between Palermo in southern Italy and Alexandria in northern Egypt, were being repaired and that some of the links, meanwhile, had been re-routed to ease congestion.

During the restoration process, traffic to northern America may experience minor degradation while traffic to other countries is unaffected, it said.

Customers can call TM at 100 and select “Internet Services” or e-mail TM at help@tm.com.my regarding Internet-related problems, it added.

source: http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Sun...icle/index_html

This post has been edited by birain: Dec 21 2008, 11:28 AM

Submarine cables are laid beneath the sea to carry telephone and Internet traffic. They can be broken or damaged by fishing trawlers, anchoring, undersea avalanches and even shark bites. In 2006, an earthquake centred near Taiwan had severed several undersea cables, and Internet services slowed to a crawl across major parts of Asia

Ada ikan jaws gigit cable tuh fakaped tul

you know what ?? this cable breakdown is a good news for TMnut .....
as we all keep complain reasonly slow / lag , now they got "Dead Cat" , they can push everything to this breakdown ..... ahahahaha

(AGI) - Paris, 19 Dec. - More telecoms disruption between Europe and Asia follows another brak in underwater telephone lines. 10 months after the last event which blocked lines between the two continents, 3 underwater cables were severed on the bottom of the sea "for unknown reasons" between Sicily and Tunisia. France Telecom reported that "an attack is unlikely".
The company is sending a repair ship to the location but predicts that there will be problems during Christmas which may last up to the new year. Business volumes between Europe and Asia have been redirected on trans-oceanic lines to the USA. At present 65% of traffic with India is offline. The same goes for 59% of communications with Singapore, 44% with Malaysia, 55% with Saudi Arabia, 52% with Egypt, 39% with Taiwan and 51% with Pakistan.

source

lemoneon"

correct. when first time cable broken by earthquake in taiwan. they just silently install the throttle hardware to kill emule. so everyone though just only international line problem.

This post has been edited by capcomfly: Dec 21 2008, 03:27 PM

Ada ikan jaws gigit cable tuh fakaped tul

[/quote]


Ikan Jaws yang celik IT

Ikan jaws
Nice joke

This post has been edited by Southbayrider: Dec 21 2008, 04:53 PM

breaking news:
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...3626&sec=nation

so here we go again...another bad chirstmas day 4 internet users like 2 years back lulz

http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssIntegra...K37775420081220

Latest info

On Monday, you will know what is slooooowwwwww.

great those einstein can't identified the cause of the broken cable, well probably it was bitten off by a shark ???

Hmm... line is still fast to many website. Infact even faster than normal. Don't think I use UK website anyway at the moment.

if u're using a firefox, try installing a pluglin named flagfox. it display an icon at the bottom to show which country that the website is hosted.

wikipedia is from ?....damn slow to load it , it is cause of undersea cables broken?

Getting full speed at 6.15 a.m from europe

Wikipedia seems to be faster today

This post has been edited by old_calculator: Dec 22 2008, 07:18 AM

i thought TM was investing in a new backbone???
so speed up the work alredi....

still same.

Tmnut route from NTT(japan) -> us -> uk.

Getting 1.5 mbit out from 5 Mbit speeds dropping now

Now 1 Mbit here is my graph

Ip range 60.53



This post has been edited by MX510: Dec 22 2008, 10:22 AM

Why or why do all this happen at end of the year. Do you guys notice it? Every end of year surely this will happen. The deep sea monsters come out to chew the cables or what.

few reason why cable cut ?



http://www.iscpc.org/publications/About_Ca..._PDF_Format.pdf [iscpc.org]

Page 34 is a good place to start, coupled with page 13. The fact is that there are hundreds of these cables across the world and many covering local areas are kept close to each other as can be seen on the map. Now look at page 34 and realise that the following can cause cable cuts:

Anchors, Trawlers, Sharks, Earthquakes, Landslides, Fault lines, Currents, Waves, Extreme weather, Ice bergs (not in the middle east though I'd hope!).

Many other human activities can be responsible too of course (sinking ships, cargo/litter being dumped off ships etc.)

This post has been edited by wo0p: Dec 22 2008, 01:24 PM

mx510 what program is that, i want to monitor my speed too

tats pfsense. it's a freebsd router program. u can run it on any old pc to turn the pc into a full fledge router

No wonder I was experiencing sucky HTTP download speeds from US yesterday.

Full restoration only expected on Dec 31st...great...just great!

No wonder all the international sites load so SLOW, especially hotmail, slow like hell....

So how long will it take to fix the problem? It's really slow! Facebook also!

god. so many websites crawling..

beh tahan liao.

wat de..... i update my windows live messenger beta used 2 hours + still in progress... WAT DE !!

Tracert from Australia. Packets go through the USA. Something is not right on Telekom's network.

No wonder... was trying to figure out why my speed's been dropping for the last few days. But yeah, something always happens at the end of the year, then watch it get better in Jan and proceed to crap out again in Feb / Mar.

I dont feel anything.. b'coz i am using Jaring

Intresting Document

This is a document reveal the pricing of the cable annually tm.nut paid them yearly

I did feel my connection slower today,even last 2 day I can't connect to certain online game and website, anyone know the way to change the whole ip address? I mean like 192.168.x.x to 115.145.x.x? It is possible?

Of particular interest is how cheap it is. Based on data charges in this part of the world, I expected the cable transit fee to be a lot higher.

US$765,000 per year for 155mbps from Singapore to France for dedicated capacity. RM1400 per megabit per month.

this only affects overseas sites right? how come even lowyat.net is loading slow for me?

i think my turtles are faster than streamyx these few days.

if only the cable cutting jaws think of the poor ebay sellers and porn downloaders.....

/back to as(swipe)tro

no wonder my connection is so slow in the pass few days... oh well

what happen these time? submarine having war and fire a missile and bomb the cable... or maybe the shark bite it?

This post has been edited by Meis: Dec 22 2008, 10:38 PM

had alot of error while surfing some international webby.

problem solve after I use vpn..

This post has been edited by juine: Dec 22 2008, 11:27 PM

I heard it's Somalia pirates that stole the international cable.. well that's what I heard though, not sure where's the source comes from

Seems pretty unlikely; what would they want with it? The commodity value is low, and it's not exactly something you can sell on eBay.

....me thinks maybe make a case for future extortion? A small percentage of repair costs would make a nice payout for those pirates.

1. Steal cable

2. Wait for repair teams to arrive

3. Kidnap repair teams for ransom

4. ???

5. Profit!

Lol

This post has been edited by rizvanrp: Dec 23 2008, 03:14 PM

Whatever it is that is going on, internet speed is seriously failing now.

terrorists job

This thread is slowly turning into a conspiracy theory discussion lol.

Wah! Nowsday, pirates really rules the world as they easily hijack any ship pass by and even stole the cable.

It's due to earthquake in the sea not pirates

well that's what a few people told me what happened.

I cannot give out the source but then it seems like cable can be sold for quite a price as raw material..

understand that it is not only the cable in the sea; xD

i wanna see that happen. the net is full of worthless info these. try a reputable source for information instead of i heard from someone,...

i heard from someone that the grinch stole christmas so there

i dont know if cable problem causes our internet slowdown.My office didnt show any slow down of internet connection.i can use full speed as usual when download from rapidshare server.the ip is 60.54.xx.xx but connection at house like hell.hardly to open international web & rapidshare server.

1 thing , pirate doing big business !!! haha each job they do is million million sound
so if they really stole cable , how much they can sell ??

my speed today seem ok, I don't know why, maybe they have fix it. Why don't the just put the damn cable underground!

@kurtkantoi - i think your sig is the real insect. Damnnnn!

Stealing cables few thousand metres deep not likely, but damaging cables to create more job and spoiling your Christmas joyful cheers, YES.

Anyway with the slump in oil prices, it doesn't sound good. Imagine how it will affect the Middle East countries in the next coming months...

Development projects in Dubai..

The tons of workers from South Asia(India, Bangladesh, etc.) flocking there to work in the construction sector.

Becoming jobless..the chain effect and unrest.

yesterday connection was good. 2day crawl again. takes 2+ hours 2 complete dl a 200+mb file. normally less than than tat.

I can say the pirates are anti- streamyx... hehe just a thought...

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Added on December 25, 2008, 12:45 amdude, my friend's streamyx took him from 11am till 8pm to complete 2 different files from rs, which is about 300 mb (one 200mb and one more 120mb)

This post has been edited by KuzumiTaiga: Dec 25 2008, 12:45 AM

Facing the same problem here. RS premium acc speed drop like hell even on my favaourite IP.

Has anyone notice speedtest website didn't show KL testing point? Is this due to the damage cable? KL server also 'bombed'?

rapidshare maximum speed 12kb

I'm getting 0.2kb from rapidshare.

I'm getting superfast speed now they fix it ?

wat ip u use?

60.54 totally cacat to download thing but good to view web only. 118.1xx and 60.51.(15 and below) can say totally a useless address to connect. the performance are below the standard usage in normal day, which mean before underwater sea cable breaking already like that worst.

Maybe TM is taking this oppourtunity to shut down some of their servers and blaming that it is the Internet Sea Cable has broken...

Nah...you're probably seeing things....it's just a matter of time before it become worse again

I'm using 124.82.xxx ip and seem like I getting full megaupload and rapidshare speed from it. Seem like 124.82.xxx back to normal again. The speed so slow before, don't know why.... Very hepi laaa :-)

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jul 14 2017, 07:10 PM

Can i damage more cables pl0x? nah don't worry i only damage the tm kacang backbone.... i want them to go nyawa2 ikan

I think its fix alredy, my ping to game server located at German back to normal from 550ms to 220ms

Back to normal?
Its taking extremely slow to load international sites for me....

Only Lowyat im having problem

the loading so slow

lol nice video dude

Ooowh, so it will be fully fix at 31 Dis.. mm ok... huhu my ping raise back to 550ms LOL

weird but my connection is really running at normal speed... all websites load quite fast... huh?? is the broken cable got fix already?

This post has been edited by Meis: Dec 26 2008, 08:46 AM

Fix ur head, I cant even play online game from Europe. it is soo laggy the ping is soo high I Disconnect every 15-30secs.

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jul 14 2017, 07:14 PM

Thats my case for myside here.

my wow connection is crappy now... 4000ms to 10000ms latency... can't even walk...

The BT speed is slowly recovering. Speed can go up to 100 kB compared to the last few days.