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kaiying
post May 12 2009, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(Lord1700 @ May 12 2009, 05:17 AM)
nowadays u can find broker which offer minimum to start is 1usd  biggrin.gif
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OMG! r u serious??! got contacts for me? i keep the contacts first. when i graduate from babypips then i will try out! rclxm9.gif

QUOTE(rstusa @ May 12 2009, 09:36 AM)
If you willing to learn about forex that trade with those major pairs, i can suggest you www.babypips.com/school, it is very suitable for you.
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yupyup, i'm starting from pre sch now. will print out those info. cuz i read from comp till i bengong d.. thanks ya

QUOTE(jex-koi @ May 12 2009, 11:43 AM)
If you want to keep this for long term, maybe you can just open up a forex FD in the local banks.
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o0o.. i really have no clue.. let me finish learning from babypips then i come back and find you all.

lastly, thank you so much ya for all your advise!!
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QUOTE(kaiying @ May 12 2009, 04:32 PM)
yupyup, i'm starting from pre sch now. will print out those info. cuz i read from comp till i bengong d.. thanks ya
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All the best!

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post May 12 2009, 03:44 PM

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Added on May 12, 2009, 5:57 pmi printed all out d. is really detailed and informative.

thanks alot for sharing ya

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would like to ask u all Gurus here .. does demand for certain currency increase the foreign exchange rate in certain place ?
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post May 13 2009, 02:16 AM

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if u start off with 1 USD trade, its kinda hard to trade at all...

even with micro lots account wont it?


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post May 13 2009, 02:26 AM

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QUOTE(William7 @ May 13 2009, 02:16 AM)
if u start off with 1 USD trade, its kinda hard to trade at all...

even with micro lots account wont it?
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why hard to trade? just trade 1pip=1cent.
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post May 13 2009, 02:29 AM

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ah i got what you mean =)

But gotta look for a low spread broker right?
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post May 13 2009, 02:50 AM

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QUOTE(William7 @ May 13 2009, 02:29 AM)
ah i got what you mean =)

But gotta look for a low spread broker right?
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low spread broker is important to scalper trader only.

http://www.babypips.com/school/what_kind_of_trader_am_i.html
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post May 13 2009, 03:01 AM

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oh i was refering to the 1USD trade, wont you need a low spread broker?

with 1 USD, its pretty much scalping right?
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hi....can i know is thr possible will pound to be falling within tis cuming 2 week?
cz i nid get a bank draft in pound and its a huge amout for me..

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post May 13 2009, 09:50 PM

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can any1 suggest me which is the best place to attend fx class??
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post May 14 2009, 05:45 AM

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QUOTE(itsmeefund @ May 13 2009, 09:50 PM)
can any1 suggest me which is the best place to attend fx class??
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maybe u can try this commercezone.com.my it is d cheapest so far blush.gif

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post May 14 2009, 06:22 AM

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OMGGGGGGGG... after reading all your posts, i suddenly felt i looked so stupid for asking my first question. first and foremost, im sorry you guys and thanks for always guiding newbies to babypips, IT IS FREAKIN HELPFUL. (although some parts like moving average stuff.. fabbi-u r seldom/never talk bout this, i could understand much much more on what im studying now. a million thanks! notworthy.gif )

QUOTE(Lord1700 @ Apr 7 2009, 01:39 AM)

and Short term is more for scalper which only target for 3~10pips for every post they enter..

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now only i know after 2 days on demo, im actually practising scalper! at first winwin.. then traded on usd/jpy i rugi like siao.............................. but gonna keep it long. cuz according to my analysis (it will go up!! but not so soon..) not based on FA, but TA. pls correct me if im wrong.

QUOTE(bulkbiz @ Apr 8 2009, 09:48 AM)
The 5 Steps to becoming a trader

Step One: Unconscious Incompetence.

This is the first step you take when starting to look into trading. you know that its a good way of making money because you've heard so many things about it and heard of so many millionaires. Unfortunately, just like when you first desire to drive a car you think it will be easy - after all, how hard can it be? Price either moves up or down - what's the big secret to that then - lets get cracking!

Unfortunately, just as when you first take your place in front of a steering wheel you find very quickly that you haven't got the first clue about what you're trying to do. You take lots of trades and lots of risks. When you enter a trade it turns against you so you reverse and it turns again .. and again, and again.
You may have initial success, and thats even worse - cos it tells your brain that this really is simple and you start to risk more money.
You try to turn around your losses by doubling up every time you trade. Sometimes you'll get away with it but more often than not you will come away scathed and bruised You are totally oblivious to your incompetence at trading.

This step can last for a week or two of trading but the market is usually swift and you move onth the next stage.

Step Two - Conscious Incompetence

Step two is where you realise that there is more work involved in trading and that you might actually have to work a few things out. You consciously realise that you are an incompetent trader - you don't have the skills or the insight to turn a regular profit.

You now set about buying systems and e-books galore, read websites based everywhere from USA to the Ukraine. and begin your search for the holy grail. During this time you will be a system nomad - you will flick from method to method day by day and week by week never sticking with one long enough to actually see if it does work. Every time you come upon a new indicator you'll be ecstatic that this is the one that will make all the difference.

You will test out automated systems on Metatrader, you'll play with moving averages, Fibonacci lines, support & resistance, Pivots, Fractals, Divergence, DMI, ADX, and a hundred other things all in the vein hope that your 'magic system' starts today. You'll be a top and bottom picker, trying to find the exact point of reversal with your indicators and you'll find yourself chasing losing trades and even adding to them because you are so sure you are right.

You'll go into the live chat room and see other traders making pips and you want to know why it's not you - you'll ask a million questions, some of which are so dumb that looking back you feel a bit silly. You'll then reach the point where you think all the ones who are calling pips after pips are liars - they cant be making that amount because you've studied and you don't make that, you know as much as they do and they must be lying. But they're in there day after day and their account just grows whilst yours falls.

You will be like a teenager - the traders that make money will freely give you advice but you're stubborn and think that you know best - you take no notice and overtrade your account even though everyone says you are mad to - but you know better. You'll consider following the calls that others make but even then it wont work so you try paying for signals from someone else - they don't work for you either.
You might even approach a 'guru' like Rob Booker or someone on a chat board who promises to make you into a trader(usually for a fee of course). Whether the guru is good or not you wont win because there is no replacement for screen time and you still think you know best.
This step can last ages and ages - in fact in reality talking with other traders as well as personal experience confirms that it can easily last well over a year and more nearer 3 years. This is also the step when you are most likely to give up through sheer frustration.

Around 60% of new traders die out in the first 3 months - they give up and this is good - think about it - if trading was easy we would all be millionaires. another 20% keep going for a year and then in desperation take risks guaranteed to blow their account which of course it does.
What may suprise you is that of the remaining 20% all of them will last around 3 years - and they will think they are safe in the water - but even at 3 years only a further 5-10% will continue and go on to actually make money consistently.
By the way - they are real figures, not just some ive picked out of my head - so when you get to 3 years in the game dont think its plain sailing from there.
Iv had many people argue with me about these timescales - funny enough none of them have been trading for more that 3 years - if you think you know better then ask on a board for someone who's been trading 5 years and ask them how long it takes to become fully 100% proficient. Sure i guess there will be exceptions to the rle - but i havent met any yet.
Eventually you do begin to come out of this phase. You've probably committed more time and money than you ever thought you would, lost 2 or 3 loaded accounts and all but given up maybe 3 or 4 times but now its in your blood

One day - im a split second moment you will enter stage 3.

Step 3 - The Eureka Moment

Towards the end of stage two you begin to realise that it's not the system that is making the difference. You realise that its actually possible to make money with a simple moving average and nothing else IF you can get your head and money management right You start to read books on the psychology of trading and identify with the characters portrayed in those books and finally comes the eureka moment.

The eureka moment causes a new connection to be made in your brain. You suddenly realise that neither you, nor anyone else can accurately predict what the market will do in the next ten seconds, never mind the next 20 mins.
Because of this revelation you stop taking any notice of what anyone thinks - what this news item will do, and what that event will do to the markets. You become an individual with your own method of trading
You start to work just one system that you mould to your own way of trading, you're starting to get happy and you define your risk threshold.

You start to take every trade that your 'edge' shows has a good probability of winning with. When the trade turns bad you don't get angry or even because you know in your head that as you couldn't possibly predict it it isn't your fault - as soon as you realise that the trade is bad you close it . The next trade or the one after it or the one after that will have higher odds of success because you know your system works.
You stop looking at trading results from a trade-to-trade perspective and start to look at weekly figures knowing that one bad trade does not a poor system make.
You have realised in an instant that the trading game is about one thing - consistency of your 'edge' and your discipline to take all the trades no matter what as you know the probabilities stack in your favour.

You learn about proper money management and leverage - risk of account etc etc - and this time it actually soaks in and you think back to those who advised the same thing a year ago with a smile. You weren't ready then, but you are now. The eureka moment came the moment that you truly accepted that you cannot predict the market.

Step 4 - Conscious Competence

You are making trades whenever your system tells you to. You take losses just as easily as you take wins You now let your winners run to their conclusion fully accepting the risk and knowing that your system makes more money than it looses and when you're on a loser you close it swiftly with little pain to your account

You are now at a point where you break even most of the time - day in day out, you will have weeks where you make 100 pips and weeks where you lose 100 pips - generally you are breaking even and not losing money. You are now conscious of the fact that you are making calls that are generally good and you are getting respect from other traders as you chat the day away. You still have to work at it and think about your trades but as this continues you begin to make more money than you lose consistently.

You'll start the day on a 20 pip win, take a 35 pip loss and have no feelings that you've given those pips back because you know that it will come back again. You will now begin to make consistent pips week in and week out 25 pips one week, 50 the next and so on.

This lasts about 6 months

Step Five - Unconscious Competence

Now we’re cooking - just like driving a car, every day you get in your seat and trade - you do everything now on an unconscious level. You are running on autopilot. You start to pick the really big trades and getting 200 pips in a day doesnt make you any more excited that getting 1 pips.
You see the newbies in the forum shouting 'go dollar go' as if they are urging on a horse to win in the grand national and you see yourself - but many years ago now.

This is trading utopia - you have mastered your emotions and you are now a trader with a rapidly growing account.

You're a star in the trading chat room and people listen to what you say. You recognise yourself in their questions from about two years ago. You pass on your advice but you know most of it is futile because they're teenagers - some of them will get to where you are - some will do it fast and others will be slower - literally dozens and dozens will never get past stage two, but a few will.

Trading is no longer exciting - in fact it's probably boring you to bits - like everything in life when you get good at it or do it for your job - it gets boring - you're doing your job and that's that.
Finally you grow out of the chat rooms and find a few choice people who you converse with about the markets without being influenced at all.
All the time you are honing your methods to extract the maximum profit from the market without increasing risk. Your method of trading doesnt change - it just gets better - you now have what women call 'intuition'

You can now say with your head held high "I'm a currency trader" but to be honest you dont even bother telling anyone - it's a job like any other.
I hope youve enjoyed reading this journey into a traders mind and that hopefully youve identified with some points in here.
Remember that only 5% will actually make it - but the reason for that isnt ability, its staying power and the ability to change your perceptions and paradigms as new information comes available.
The losers are those who wanted to 'get rich quick' but approached the market and within 6 months put on a pair of blinkers so they couldnt see the obvious - a kind of "this is the way i see it and thats that" scenario - refusing to assimilate new information that changes that perception.
Im happy to tell you that the reason i started trading was because of the 'get rich quick' mindset. Just that now i see it as 'get rich slow'

If youre thinking about giving up i have one piece of advice for you ....

Ask yourself the question "how many years would you go to college if you knew for a fact that there was a million dollars a year job at the end of it?

Take care and good trading to you all.
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this is so cooool!!!! i was like omgomgomg.. now step 1 but kinda afrraid to step on 2 3 4 5.. but wil seriously do homework for months first!

QUOTE(mphpopular @ Apr 24 2009, 09:43 AM)
Surely no ppl will trust me. haha
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i trusted u! tongue.gif u posted many charts up! but i stil dunno how u guys do it so so smoothly?
i using workspace-fx accucharts and global trading system which none of u talking bout it, i know i was walking on wrong path. pheww.. luckily demo..

QUOTE(small-jeff @ Apr 30 2009, 04:50 PM)
haha..pay me US$150, i'll teach you about FA too tongue.gif
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can you give me discount? i am serious here. but maybe in the month of june. we all gather together then u teach us k? cuz ur avatar really makes u look damn chun.

QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ May 5 2009, 05:27 PM)
No revenge trades, and always be patient. You do not have to trade everyday to win. Don't chase money or else money will fly from you.
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ahh.. agree! im trying to be patient now.. i havent sleep and im so zombie like d.. icon_question.gif rclxub.gif icon_question.gif
anyways, do u think newbies like us wil tend to rely on you? cuz i saw ur analysis then i compare the chart, u really have some points there.
so pls dun suddenly disappear! seems like u r highly respected here. notworthy.gif
but dun keep eye-ing on txi (am i correct.. his name?.. i rmb by taxi, less an a) cuz he quite cham lo.


happy trading people! wil ZzzZ now. green. go green. GREEN!!
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QUOTE(kaiying @ May 14 2009, 07:22 AM)
can you give me discount? i am serious here. but maybe in the month of june. we all gather together then u teach us k? cuz ur avatar really makes u look damn chun.
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My opinion to you, don't waste money on those fx course, what you can do now study babypips first. In my experience, my great sifu is babypips and 2 of my friends, they never ask me for a fees, but just like friends come out do sharing his/her experiences, i can honestly tell that only doing these steps, it made me gained great experience & great profit in fx, that's why i said no need to attend fx course but if you really want to try nobody will stop you, just my 2 cents, all the best in your fx training.
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post May 14 2009, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(rstusa @ May 14 2009, 09:44 AM)
My opinion to you, don't waste money on those fx course
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o0o.. but FA wor.. i keep reading the market news at the side i also dunno what to do bout it. dun worry, i wil set my basic knowledge strong first then only i learn this.. very.. tough.. hehehe.

(usd/jpy rising! wowowowoow!! now losing 60+ pips.)


Added on May 14, 2009, 3:25 pmhi all,
i just wanna ask why after i installed mt4 ibfx thingy right.. it stuck at
'open an account, registration, wait a little please, then (read only password)...' but nothing.. then i reinstall again.. same thing happened.. almost 2 hours liao..

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post May 15 2009, 12:02 AM

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HELLO,

Anyone knows TXI whereabouts?

TXI, dude you just make RHB and your RHB research team look like idiots.

Call me when GU hits 1.30 in June


Added on May 15, 2009, 12:40 amBy the way, i am picking up some TAs.

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Adam do you trade for OSK or do you trade for yourself? And so do you open an account with one of the online brokers like us or does OSK deal in forex too?

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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ May 15 2009, 01:02 AM)
HELLO,

Anyone knows TXI whereabouts?

TXI, dude you just make RHB and your RHB research team look like idiots.

Call me when GU hits 1.30 in June


Added on May 15, 2009, 12:40 amBy the way, i am picking up some TAs.
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What is your prediction of GU that will hit 1.30 in June?

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QUOTE(orangysb @ May 14 2009, 10:17 AM)
Adam do you trade for OSK or do you trade for yourself? And so do you open an account with one of the online brokers like us or does OSK deal in forex too?
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No forex; i trade for my own


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QUOTE(rstusa @ May 14 2009, 07:46 PM)
What is your prediction of GU that will hit 1.30 in June?
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RT, its not my prediction. It's Mr TXI so called the ex team leader for futures brokering of RHB Investment Bank.

I am not stupid enough to TELL everyone on the forum that DOW will melt to 5000 and GU will crash to 1.30.



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the market change very fast these days. plus it has drop a lot more than b4. So calling 1.30 GU now is pretty much out of stupidity without explanation.

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