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 Accounting. MMU vs SEGi vs UTAR vs Sunway...

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chia ying kai
post Apr 17 2009, 12:41 PM

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i'm currently studying in UTAR. hmmm.. UTAR is the most affordable college for middle income family actually.
Now they provide accounting in Kampar. UTAR campus in kampar is full of facilities and is a good environment for studying rather than Sunway.
Sunway living expense is too much expensive for us, moreover i suggest ur sis to make a degree before acca. Acca paper is quite tough if without working experience.

p/s : Accounting is not a simple subject. must work twice harder than others.

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post Apr 17 2009, 01:02 PM

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why all people hate SEGI???the quality is not good at all?????
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post Apr 17 2009, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(killingspree @ Jan 30 2009, 09:26 AM)
for your info, to be entitle for Chartered ACCOUNTANT u need to be a member of MIA . Not ACCA, ACCA is for certified public accountant....hope u get the idea,

still the professional body is not compulsary for accounting...

Unless of course, u wan to be recognize...
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Wrong statement ...

After u gain ACCA membership, you can apply for MIA membership . ACCA is recognised under MIA.

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post Apr 17 2009, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(moon yuen @ Apr 17 2009, 01:37 PM)
Wrong statement ...

After u gain ACCA membership, you can apply for MIA membership . ACCA is recognised under MIA.
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Depending... In this country, yes
Other country...No


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Added on April 17, 2009, 2:44 pm
QUOTE(McKing @ Jan 24 2009, 03:28 AM)
Go Sunway for ACCA. if u're looking for an accounting degree, go Monash or Sunway. she'll be happy, and u won't regret.
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Sunway Monash is still the place! smile.gif

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post Apr 17 2009, 04:34 PM

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wow, that's a lot of vs...
if you don't mind, I want to put it in my list..
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=24844052
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post Apr 21 2009, 09:46 AM

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hi guys, i'm going segi kl for foundations then to twinning degree...n any comments??n many ppl advice me segi nt so good tongue.gif any comments???PM me.....thank you....
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post Apr 21 2009, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(moon yuen @ Apr 17 2009, 02:37 PM)
Wrong statement ...

After u gain ACCA membership, you can apply for MIA membership . ACCA is recognised under MIA.
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hehehe, google the MIA website first then u get the idea....

MIA do recognize ACCA,

BUT, in order to qualify to be entitled for CHARTERED ACCOUNTANT you just need accounting degree that is recognize by MIA.

And for your info ACCA is one of them, though it is not a degree.

AND you don't need ACCA in order to qualify to be CHARTERED ACCOUNTANT if u have recognized acc. degree ..

hope that's help...

or u can read again the statement that u quote previously, i do think u misinterpret it..

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Topace111
post Apr 21 2009, 01:09 PM

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It works like these :
If you have degree you cannot called yourself an accountant since you are not recognised by a body (as a/c is a profession)
To be recognised you need to be listed under a body like MIA (need to take short exams & stuff)
If you want another qualification which is similar is called MICPA which is similar to ACCA.

There are others who pursue ACCA / CIMA / CPA immidiately & get their own title at the respective country (ACCA, CIMA = UK), (CPA = US & AUs)
So if you are recognised in these foreign countries you are more recognised worldwide. MIA although are international accredicated but lack the international exposure of the said qualifications. Most of those whom want to practice in MYS but with foreign qualification. MIA is more than willing to let them apply for MIA membership as well. Thats why most qualification have 3 yr working experience requirement. Once you possessed professional qualifcation & work 3 years , you can also applied for MIA concurrently & get 2 membership at one go.

If you only have degree your option is restricted to MIA if you want recognition unless you wish to pursue prof qual.

If you go for Uk qualification = get title "Chartered" awarded by the Queen (source from Wikipedia)
If you for US or Aust qualifaction = get tilte "Certified Public".

If you have MIA you cannot apply the same with ACCA or CPA as you need to study for those if you want foreign recongition.
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post Apr 21 2009, 02:28 PM

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i personally think sunway would be the best~

sunway ACCA
pros
-3 years to get an ACCA , some college might spend 2 1/2 years for a diploma
-employment rate is high
-ur future is guaranted

cons
-u need to work super hard, from 2000 of students doing CAT, only 50 manage to reach the professional lvl
-high tuition fees
-can't apply for ptptn

SEGI college UOS degree
pros
-sure pass with the tips provided
-3 years to get a degree

cons
-unrecognise in GOV sector
-worst to worst senario u can't even work in bank =.=

MMU
pros
-great studying environment, can make a lot of friends and a lot of activities being held
-affortable tuition fees
-high employment rate

cons
-5 years for degree

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post Apr 21 2009, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(tauyik @ Apr 21 2009, 02:28 PM)
i personally think sunway would be the best~

sunway ACCA
pros
-3 years to get an ACCA , some college might spend 2 1/2 years for a diploma
-employment rate is high
-ur future is guaranted

cons
-u need to work super hard, from 2000 of students doing CAT, only 50 manage to reach the professional lvl
-high tuition fees
-can't apply for ptptn

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You mean that the majority of people only completed the fundamentals level?

Can anyone rectify how true is this..seems a little absurd.(no offence to anyone here)
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post Apr 21 2009, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(tauyik @ Apr 21 2009, 02:28 PM)
i personally think sunway would be the best~

sunway ACCA
pros
-3 years to get an ACCA , some college might spend 2 1/2 years for a diploma
-employment rate is high
-ur future is guaranted

cons
-u need to work super hard, from 2000 of students doing CAT, only 50 manage to reach the professional lvl
-high tuition fees
-can't apply for ptptn

SEGI college UOS degree
pros
-sure pass with the tips provided
-3 years to get a degree

cons
-unrecognise in GOV sector
-worst to worst senario u can't even work in bank =.=

MMU
pros
-great studying environment, can make a lot of friends and a lot of activities being held
-affortable tuition fees
-high employment rate

cons
-5 years for degree
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huh??i'm going segi kl for degree acc & finance....then the cert is useless if i wan to find job???

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post Apr 21 2009, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(Sicarius @ Apr 21 2009, 03:10 PM)
You mean that the majority of people only completed the fundamentals level?

Can anyone rectify how true is this..seems a little absurd.(no offence to anyone here)
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that's wut i heard, however wut i mean is u really need to study super extra hard compared to other university/college

QUOTE(sawsiewyee @ Apr 21 2009, 04:06 PM)
huh??i'm going segi kl for degree acc & finance....then the cert is useless if i wan to find job???
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segi kl is under greenwich university right? i think that one should be ok, don take the top up degree of university of sunderland from segi subang
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post Apr 21 2009, 08:30 PM

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ya....i also decide take greenwich U cert.....but i heard ppl say segi kl sucks.....
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post Apr 22 2009, 08:27 PM

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Come on... chill...
lets see the world university ranking
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post Apr 22 2009, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(khaishin @ Jan 23 2009, 04:38 PM)
The environment is better but the lecturers ain't the best.
So if you were looking for good environment then go for it.
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i personally think u hav grudge against sunway...its not that bad despite all the rumour that is going on... and i hav to say sunway's ACCA is the best among all.. ppl might think of sunway like its a place where ppl go there and they will be influenced by the negative envir. there...but see this..if u can be influenced in sunway..u too can be influenced in any other places..like matriks...
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post Apr 22 2009, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(jotika @ Apr 22 2009, 09:52 PM)
i personally think u hav grudge against sunway...its not that bad despite all the rumour that is going on... and i hav to say sunway's ACCA is the best among all.. ppl might think of sunway like its a place where ppl go there and they will be influenced by the negative envir. there...but see this..if u can be influenced in sunway..u too can be influenced in any other places..like matriks...
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You want to hear the acca sunway lecturer thing you can go to acca v4
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/727328
They have a strong debate on the lecturer issue for almost 2 months (read the last few pages or you can view my previous posts)

Sunway is the best "place" to take acca but not the best "way" to do it.
I have met with other sunway acca students and they also admit their lecturers may not be adequate for the more professional level.
Speciallist lecturers who focus on professional level are catered mostly in KL whom normally gathered with other lecturers to open up their own place. Furthermore the sunway acca dir is quite infamous with bad ethical issue as the recent famous lecturer scandal just months ago. Can go and vist the forum i listed above.


Added on April 22, 2009, 11:47 pm
QUOTE(Sicarius @ Apr 21 2009, 03:10 PM)
You mean that the majority of people only completed the fundamentals level?

Can anyone rectify how true is this..seems a little absurd.(no offence to anyone here)
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ACCA fundamental F1 to F3 is liken to lower qualification like LCCI or foundation & lower than diploma.
ACCA fundamental F4 to F9 is liken equivalent to degree (but most agree that its also tougher than degree). ACCA holders are given option to apply for a degree in UK (OBU) , course around 2 mths & get double qualifcation even before you enter professional level. But that depends on your average mark lo.
ACCA professional P1 to P3 & choose 2 out of P4 to P7 is liken to masters programme (P3 is very similar to MBA).

I have met with several sunway students in my studies in KL & they also admit among their respective batch only 3 -4 make it to the final level within the minimum 2.5 year time period (includes CAT). They have several batches since they accumulate a lot of students from different background. For Kl students its even lesser since the study culture is not so competitive compared to students in sunway.
About myself :
I am from Kl centres & i am currently at my final papers at acca & will probably graduate at age 21 & i have not failed any of my papers yet.

One thing that I need to clarify clearly is that acca is a postgraduate programme & its more difficult than degree.
My current batch of class consist very few from those who carried forward from CAT or fundamentals. Most of them if did normally failed or have to resit several papers before.
My current class students consist mostly from those whom already obtained a degree / advanced diploma from TARC / working in large firms (big 4) et al. The age gap between students can be quite varied depending on type of papers.

Anyone wish to know more about professional qualification like ACCA can pm me directly or visit the forum below for the latest update :
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/987309

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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Apr 21 2009, 01:26 PM)
webometrics is totally wrong and we had discuss it so many times before.
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QUOTE(gavinfernando @ Apr 22 2009, 08:26 PM)
Come on... chill...
lets see the world university ranking
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the website is hosting wrong info, just compare the size of UTM and MMU and u'll see the illogical numbers on them~

QUOTE(killingspree @ Apr 23 2009, 10:42 AM)
MMU really sucks!

Money Making University....

previously, subject with 3 credit hours only RM750 right now becoming RM950
for 4 credit hours it's becoming RM1050++...

Really f*** up!.... IT fees, Library fees even u never enter to library... Wut da f***!

Their motto "Pay fees first, then u can sit for exam" ..
really f*** up!

if TS got money issue, I strongly suggest, do not study in MMU... wink.gif
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agreed, i advice IPTA if money is a major concern
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post Apr 24 2009, 09:41 AM

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If the university provides PTPTN loan,is it recognised by gov or not?
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QUOTE(Jacks123 @ Apr 24 2009, 09:41 AM)
If the university provides PTPTN loan,is it recognised by gov or not?
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recognized by MQA you mean?

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