there are so many internet source around.
some say working out,
some say joggin will do.
the question is which is it, the better way to actually lost fat?

working out includes push up, sits up, etc.

each website will explain in detail until what fats burn, etc etc.

back to the main question, which is the better way to lose fats?

any opinions? if can, support with relevant facts.

This post has been edited by toda_erika_II: Dec 17 2008, 06:41 PM

why not do both?

Make ur pre work out and post work out be 15 to 20 mins of jogging which not only helps burn fat , lossening ur mucles but also elavates ur heart rate through an aerobic or cardio mode n prepares u for ur anaerobic workout such as push ups, weights and other muscular strengthening work outs.

1st, know how many cal ur body need a day, dont eat more than that. any exercise will do, as long as not excessive 1 cause u'll damage ur muscle

For me....in logical thinking....

Work-out = increase volumn of targeted muscle

Joggin = increase stamina/burn calories


Therefore , jog burn fat faster

1st you will need to understand where does your fat come from , the way you eat ? family genes ? your lifestyles ?

2nd losing fat in different ways is sure lose no matter what , consistency is a must and hardship.

3rd looking at yourself which part of your body you would like to lose , fit ... start toning the part of your body and abit of other part of your body muscle

4th get a professional opinion and advice, learn from the seniors and work ur way to slim slim world ~

wat if i everyday over ate my meal n i dun put on weights? ?

what u're suggesting is like
1) 15 - 20 jogging
2) then only anaerobic workout?



ho to know?

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Added on December 17, 2008, 6:48 pmi see..

i see...overall especially stomach


then is good, no?

This post has been edited by toda_erika_II: Dec 17 2008, 06:48 PM

try this calculator, might not b accurate for asian http://walking.about.com/cs/calories/l/blcalcalc.htm

yes pre workout is 15 mins n post workout which actually helps prevent muscle aches be about 5 to 10 mins.

in between do ur anaerobic workout out for at least 45 mins, this is the best way to loose weight, build strength n maintain a healthy body.

remember, dont do excessive exercise, u'll damage ur muscle tissue more than it can rebuild. start with mild exercise, to get rid of fat to d level u want, another thing is ur diet, depends on what u eat

thanks

wow.. that will take more or less an hour overall... do we need to do it everyday?

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Added on December 17, 2008, 6:52 pmhmm will try to eat less fat food.

This post has been edited by toda_erika_II: Dec 17 2008, 06:52 PM

of course weight lifting. you can lose fat while gaining muscles.

but weight lifting only aims the biceps more?

if ur determined, u can do it everyday hehe if u arent used exercise everyday, better start with interval...u dnt like muscle ache right?

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Added on December 17, 2008, 6:55 pmit involve ur abdomen as well

This post has been edited by fastcx: Dec 17 2008, 06:55 PM

nope, just three times a week is sufficeint and good enough for u to notice the difference n maintain ur health

jogging..just started last month..now feel lot of better!

ermm just shit a lot ... then can lose weight

JOGGING... BETTER

jog doesn't means burn more calories.

there is no such thing as toning some part and not other part. You can't just do sit up to lose your tummy.

no, weight training is for overall body.




I try to keep this as short as possible.
Okay, I assume that you are a male, you are overweight and you need to lose fat.

I'll suggest you go for weight training.
Why? Because weight training could lead you to build more muscle and hence your metabolism rate will be higher.

Why I need higher metabolism rate?
Metabolism rate can help you to burn more fat.

Then jog is not good?
No, jog isn't bad, you can have yourself 3 days of workout day and 2 days of jog day. Monday, Wednesday and Friday is for weight lifting then Tuesday and Thursday for HIIT(jogging), please google HIIT for more information. HIIT is proven a more efficient technique to lose fat rather than jog.

Why not jog for pre-workout?
I believe HIIT for pre or post will get yourself loss muscle.

Okay, I'm ready for everything you suggested, what kind of workout should I go for?
Rippetoe

What do I should and shouldn't eat?
I'll suggest you go for high protein (minimum 1g of protein per 1lbs your weight, you can go as high as 2g), moderate fat, low carbs.

huh? what is protein, fat, carbs?
protein = egg, milk, fish, lamb, chicken and basically all the meat and whey..
fat = nuts, cooking oil, olive oil.....
carbs = sugar, rice, noodles....
Please google up for more info.

Huh? you ask me to eat moderate fat? I'm cutting.
Good fat do not makes you fat if you take in moderate, some good fat like nut got a lot of nutrition and vitamin which may help you to grow bigger. Use olive oil to cook your meal instead of normal cooking oil. Looks for mono/poly saturated fat and not trans fat.

Why protein?
I'll leave this to him to explain

Why carbs?
Carbs will cause insulin spike and thus I suggest you to spread your meal to 6 meals a day to avoid insulin spike.

What's insulin spike?
Basically this will make you store fat.

How to avoid insulin spike?
Do not eat too many of carbs in 1 meal.
Add some healthy and GOOD fat in your carbs meal.
Do not only eat protein and carbs alone, this will trigger a high insulin spike, as usual, add some good fat.

Okay, anything else?
If you are really serious to work out, I suggest you to read this Proper Pre and Post Workout Nutrition

I follow what you suggested and I can't get fit yet.
1)Do not rest in between set for more than 2minutes. Get your ass moving.
2)Do not over eat carbs, fat.
3)Get enough of sleep.
4)Get yourself some supplement like whey, BCAA, creatine, EAA, multi-vitamin, fish-oil, ZMA, NO.
5)Do not starve yourself! When there are no or very low carbohydrates in the diet for too long of a
period, the thyroid senses that the body is starving or dying and its natural response is to
slow down your metabolic rate to preserve bodymass.

This post has been edited by ExpZero: Dec 17 2008, 08:25 PM

For me jogging is the most effective way to loose weight... 3x a week, each time ~30mins. Last time I use to do sit-ups, pull-ups, push-ups ... blah3 but end up jogging is still the best and yet simple. Just get a pair of running shoes and you're set to go.

Just my 2 cents....

I think no matter which 1, need to know which 1 u like to do and enjoy it. If you dun enjoy jogging, then jogging won't help u as u wont do it consistantly. Workout is same case.

For me, i found i lost most of my weight thru jogging/running and hiking. Just find a nice hill, walk/hike every week, sure help. (but hiking might result in big calves mucles, if u r a girl, u might dun want )

I think jogging is better, in the morning with fresh air, but you really need to find a suitable place to jog, or find some friends to jog together, because nowadays almost everywhere is dangerous,with crimes like snatch thief,robber, rapist, etc.

agreed.

i lose 3kg when im actively do both.

do both...

jogging - fat burnt during activity

weight - fat also burnt while u rest

so meaning wen u're not active then u'll gain 3kgs? ?

If you don't care about muscle at all, can do cardio 6 times a week, 40min per day. That's like HIIT(High Intensity Interval Training), jog until you're tired, then walk, repeat etc. Leave 1 day to rest. If that is too much just reduce the days but at least 3 per week minimum, 30min duration per day. Start much slower of course if you haven't been exercising at all, body +muscles needs to get used to it first.

Most importantly however, is diet. To lose weight, calories out must be > calories in. So calories out must come from diet + exercise to be the fastest. Of course diet plays the biggest factor as 1 chocolate bar can waste 1 whole hour's effort of cardio, for example. Do not starve yourself however, as your body will slow its metabolism to preserve fat and burn muscle. Have to lose weight slowly, 1 pound per week is recommended if I'm not wrong. That's about 500 calories deficit per day. 3500 calories gone = 1 pound of fat gone.

I tried to read whether you can preserve/gain muscle while trying to lose weight from a lot of sites, but I think most said cannot. To gain weight, you need more calories than normal(especially protein) while to lose weight, you need less calories than normal. But I still do squats/pushups/bicep curls while doing heavy cardio anyway, since I have lots of free time. If you do try to do both, make sure you weight lift first before cardio, not the other way around.

Note: this is only what I learned from reading other people's experiences, may be wrong.

The first 20mins or so of doing any form of exercise, you will be utilizing the energy from glycogen stores and cards in your body.
You will only tap into your fat stores AFTER that period of time for energy; therefore fat burning normally occurs only 20mins into exercise..

For weight loss and at the same time pack on some muscle, i suggest working out first for about 20mins, then doing a 30mins cardio session or more.
And also, always remember to allow your body to get sufficient rest.. too much stress on it will hamper all gains/losses(fats).
Gluck!

i do both... i jog 1 1/2 hours.. work out for 45 minutes... 3x a week... 1 time of badminton

when i go joggin my muscles get so pumped up with blood i dont know why.... so it is so much easier to carry weights... get tired less often...

a lot of ppl say joggin burn more calories... yes.. it is true... but if u carry weights, calo burning comes after the exercise when ur body is repairing ur muscles.. n i believe that is a lot too...

i do both too. walk / jog / run for about 20. after that, 40~ workout.

i'm also planning to lose my weight by jogging too, but becuase i'm too overweight, i can't run even sprint for up to 1 minute.

is it okay if i do a brisk walk?

just do whatever your body can.

remember that you need to monitor your intake, then have consistent exercise.

These are some articles that can help you

Good effects from jogging on the health condition

Jogging done on a regular basis give a distinct good effect upon the general health, provided it is not over-done. The effects are:

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Jogging makes the heart stronger. It increases the capasity of the blood circulation and of the respiratory system.
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It speeds up the digestive system and helps you get rid of digestive trouble.
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It counteracts depression.
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It increases the capasity to work and lead an active life.
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Jogging makes you burn fat and can thereby help against over-weight. Jou can consume 100-200 extra calories in a half-hour session. In order to be an effective means to loose weight, the jogging sessions must be at least half an hour and be repeated fairly often. The extra burning of fat continues some time after the session is over.
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If you suffer from poor appetite and too low weight, short jogging sessions will improve your appetite, and in this case it can help you to gain weight.
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Jogging will strengthens the muscles of the legs, hips and back. However you will not get very big muscles from jogging.
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Jogging makes you sleep better.

Website : http://www.abicana.com/jogging.htm


p/s : to me to lose weight better go for jogging because it will burn the fat directly but if you go for working out it will actually tone yur fat and turned it into muscles cause iam a gym guy myself & its very hard for me to gain weight but occasionally i do run on the treadmill and i do see my weight decreasing thats a fact

of course both is beneficial...if u r obese than jog is not good for your knees and leg, else u can jog...but to include workout is better where as you are exercising for your stamina and to get fit...theres a lot of method to do WO and it does not mean to lift weight only...theres workout cable, exercise ball, dumbell etc...assume jogging is for cardio and WO is for fitness...u'll find it better to do both rather than pick either one...

Do you want this?



Richard Simmons been doing cardio all his life. He still looks fat to me. He may have the cardio conditioning of a horse but I would rather prefer this:



The key is balance between bodybuilding and cardio IMHO.

if wanna lose fats and reduce waistline then i think that HIIT is the best and fastest.
the satisfaction is great.

but u gotta control your diet too

This post has been edited by uhuk-uhuk: Dec 19 2008, 10:23 PM

not fat la. he go missing you say fat person MIA also police won't be able to find.

well...i do concern on this statement....
meaning if we dint jog wisely, we'll get the opposite effest instead...
how long is the short jogging sessions, isit shorter than half an hour?

i prefer jogging.
point to support:
1) whole body stress at the same time
2) a pair of shoes can start (no need dumbell and otthers)
3) a form a dating with gf or frens
4) can 'cuci mata'
5) jogging track near my place

ok bro, enjoy exercising and stay healthy!

jogging would be simpler because work out needs assistance if u don't do it the right way.

simple yes, but is it working towards ur objective ?? to lose weights ??? imo, its not a matter of simple or watever, it purely a matter of u want or u dont want ???

OT : panadol is a well known product to treat headache but may as well not working on some ppl but watever the day may be, panadol IS MEANT TO TREAT headache...either u like it or not... :-)