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TStoda_erika_II
post Dec 17 2008, 06:31 PM, updated 17y ago

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there are so many internet source around.
some say working out,
some say joggin will do.
the question is which is it, the better way to actually lost fat?

working out includes push up, sits up, etc.

each website will explain in detail until what fats burn, etc etc.

back to the main question, which is the better way to lose fats?

any opinions? if can, support with relevant facts.

This post has been edited by toda_erika_II: Dec 17 2008, 06:41 PM
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post Dec 17 2008, 06:41 PM

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why not do both?

Make ur pre work out and post work out be 15 to 20 mins of jogging which not only helps burn fat , lossening ur mucles but also elavates ur heart rate through an aerobic or cardio mode n prepares u for ur anaerobic workout such as push ups, weights and other muscular strengthening work outs.
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post Dec 17 2008, 06:41 PM

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1st, know how many cal ur body need a day, dont eat more than that. any exercise will do, as long as not excessive 1 cause u'll damage ur muscle
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post Dec 17 2008, 06:44 PM

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For me....in logical thinking....

Work-out = increase volumn of targeted muscle

Joggin = increase stamina/burn calories


Therefore , jog burn fat faster hmm.gif
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post Dec 17 2008, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(toda_erika_II @ Dec 17 2008, 06:31 PM)
there are so many internet source around.
some say working out,
some say joggin will do.
the question is which is it, the better way to actually lost fat?

working out includes push up, sits up, etc.

each website will explain in detail until what fats burn, etc etc.

back to the main question, which is the better way to lose fats?

any opinions?
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1st you will need to understand where does your fat come from , the way you eat ? family genes ? your lifestyles ?

2nd losing fat in different ways is sure lose no matter what , consistency is a must and hardship.

3rd looking at yourself which part of your body you would like to lose , fit ... start toning the part of your body and abit of other part of your body muscle

4th get a professional opinion and advice, learn from the seniors and work ur way to slim slim world ~
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post Dec 17 2008, 06:44 PM

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wat if i everyday over ate my meal n i dun put on weights? ? sad.gif
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post Dec 17 2008, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(danscsa @ Dec 17 2008, 07:41 PM)
why not do both?

Make ur pre work out and post work out be 15 to 20 mins of jogging which not only helps burn fat , lossening ur mucles but also elavates ur heart rate through an aerobic or cardio mode n prepares u for ur anaerobic workout such as push ups, weights and other muscular strengthening work outs.
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what u're suggesting is like
1) 15 - 20 jogging
2) then only anaerobic workout?



QUOTE(fastcx @ Dec 17 2008, 07:41 PM)
1st, know how many cal ur body need a day, dont eat more than that. any exercise will do, as long as not excessive 1 cause u'll damage ur muscle
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ho to know?


Added on December 17, 2008, 6:48 pm
QUOTE(Gamatatsu0207 @ Dec 17 2008, 07:44 PM)
For me....in logical thinking....

Work-out = increase volumn of targeted muscle

Joggin = increase stamina/burn calories
Therefore , jog burn fat faster  hmm.gif
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i see..

QUOTE(dEvILrOx @ Dec 17 2008, 07:44 PM)
1st you will need to understand where does your fat come from , the way you eat ? family genes ? your lifestyles ?

2nd losing fat in different ways is sure lose no matter what , consistency is a must and hardship.

3rd looking at yourself which part of your body you would like to lose , fit ... start toning the part of your body and abit of other part of your body muscle

4th get a professional opinion and advice, learn from the seniors and work ur way to slim slim world ~
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i see...overall especially stomach


QUOTE(cheeann @ Dec 17 2008, 07:44 PM)
wat if i everyday over ate my meal n i dun put on weights? ?    sad.gif
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then is good, no?

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post Dec 17 2008, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(toda_erika_II @ Dec 17 2008, 06:45 PM)
what u're suggesting is like
1) 15 - 20 jogging
2) then only anaerobic workout?
ho to know?
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try this calculator, might not b accurate for asian http://walking.about.com/cs/calories/l/blcalcalc.htm
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post Dec 17 2008, 06:48 PM

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yes pre workout is 15 mins n post workout which actually helps prevent muscle aches be about 5 to 10 mins.

in between do ur anaerobic workout out for at least 45 mins, this is the best way to loose weight, build strength n maintain a healthy body.
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post Dec 17 2008, 06:50 PM

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remember, dont do excessive exercise, u'll damage ur muscle tissue more than it can rebuild. start with mild exercise, to get rid of fat to d level u want, another thing is ur diet, depends on what u eat
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post Dec 17 2008, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(fastcx @ Dec 17 2008, 07:48 PM)
try this calculator, might not b accurate for asian http://walking.about.com/cs/calories/l/blcalcalc.htm
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thanks sweat.gif

QUOTE(danscsa @ Dec 17 2008, 07:48 PM)
yes pre workout is 15 mins n post workout which actually helps prevent muscle aches be about 5 to 10 mins.

in between do ur anaerobic workout out for at least 45 mins, this is the best way to loose weight, build strength n maintain a healthy body.
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wow.. that will take more or less an hour overall... do we need to do it everyday?


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QUOTE(fastcx @ Dec 17 2008, 07:50 PM)
remember, dont do excessive exercise, u'll damage ur muscle tissue more than it can rebuild. start with mild exercise, to get rid of fat to d level u want, another thing is ur diet, depends on what u eat
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hmm will try to eat less fat food.

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post Dec 17 2008, 06:52 PM

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of course weight lifting. you can lose fat while gaining muscles.
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post Dec 17 2008, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(yeahs4.1 @ Dec 17 2008, 07:52 PM)
of course weight lifting. you can lose fat while gaining muscles.
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but weight lifting only aims the biceps more?
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QUOTE(toda_erika_II @ Dec 17 2008, 06:51 PM)
thanks  sweat.gif
wow.. that will take more or less an hour overall... do we need to do it everyday?


Added on December 17, 2008, 6:52 pm
hmm will try to eat less fat food.
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if ur determined, u can do it everyday hehe if u arent used exercise everyday, better start with interval...u dnt like muscle ache right?


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QUOTE(toda_erika_II @ Dec 17 2008, 06:54 PM)
but weight lifting only aims the biceps more?
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it involve ur abdomen as well

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post Dec 17 2008, 07:00 PM

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nope, just three times a week is sufficeint and good enough for u to notice the difference n maintain ur health
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post Dec 17 2008, 07:06 PM

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jogging..just started last month..now feel lot of better!
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post Dec 17 2008, 07:29 PM

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ermm just shit a lot ... then can lose weight
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JOGGING... BETTER
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post Dec 17 2008, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(Gamatatsu0207 @ Dec 17 2008, 06:44 PM)
For me....in logical thinking....

Work-out = increase volumn of targeted muscle

Joggin = increase stamina/burn calories
Therefore , jog burn fat fasterĀ  hmm.gif
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jog doesn't means burn more calories.

QUOTE(dEvILrOx @ Dec 17 2008, 06:44 PM)
1st you will need to understand where does your fat come from , the way you eat ? family genes ? your lifestyles ?

2nd losing fat in different ways is sure lose no matter what , consistency is a must and hardship.

3rd looking at yourself which part of your body you would like to lose , fit ... start toning the part of your body and abit of other part of your body muscle

4th get a professional opinion and advice, learn from the seniors and work ur way to slim slim world ~
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there is no such thing as toning some part and not other part. You can't just do sit up to lose your tummy.

QUOTE(toda_erika_II @ Dec 17 2008, 06:54 PM)
but weight lifting only aims the biceps more?
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no, weight training is for overall body.

QUOTE(fish_gogo @ Dec 17 2008, 07:29 PM)
ermm just shit a lot ... then can lose weight
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I try to keep this as short as possible.
Okay, I assume that you are a male, you are overweight and you need to lose fat.

I'll suggest you go for weight training.
Why? Because weight training could lead you to build more muscle and hence your metabolism rate will be higher.

Why I need higher metabolism rate?
Metabolism rate can help you to burn more fat.

Then jog is not good?
No, jog isn't bad, you can have yourself 3 days of workout day and 2 days of jog day. Monday, Wednesday and Friday is for weight lifting then Tuesday and Thursday for HIIT(jogging), please google HIIT for more information. HIIT is proven a more efficient technique to lose fat rather than jog.

Why not jog for pre-workout?
I believe HIIT for pre or post will get yourself loss muscle.

Okay, I'm ready for everything you suggested, what kind of workout should I go for?
Rippetoe

What do I should and shouldn't eat?
I'll suggest you go for high protein (minimum 1g of protein per 1lbs your weight, you can go as high as 2g), moderate fat, low carbs.

huh? what is protein, fat, carbs?
protein = egg, milk, fish, lamb, chicken and basically all the meat and whey..
fat = nuts, cooking oil, olive oil.....
carbs = sugar, rice, noodles....
Please google up for more info.


Huh? you ask me to eat moderate fat? I'm cutting.
Good fat do not makes you fat if you take in moderate, some good fat like nut got a lot of nutrition and vitamin which may help you to grow bigger. Use olive oil to cook your meal instead of normal cooking oil. Looks for mono/poly saturated fat and not trans fat.

Why protein?
I'll leave this to him to explain

Why carbs?
Carbs will cause insulin spike and thus I suggest you to spread your meal to 6 meals a day to avoid insulin spike.

What's insulin spike?
Basically this will make you store fat.

How to avoid insulin spike?
Do not eat too many of carbs in 1 meal.
Add some healthy and GOOD fat in your carbs meal.
Do not only eat protein and carbs alone, this will trigger a high insulin spike, as usual, add some good fat.


Okay, anything else?
If you are really serious to work out, I suggest you to read this Proper Pre and Post Workout Nutrition

I follow what you suggested and I can't get fit yet.
1)Do not rest in between set for more than 2minutes. Get your ass moving.
2)Do not over eat carbs, fat.
3)Get enough of sleep.
4)Get yourself some supplement like whey, BCAA, creatine, EAA, multi-vitamin, fish-oil, ZMA, NO.
5)Do not starve yourself! When there are no or very low carbohydrates in the diet for too long of a
period, the thyroid senses that the body is starving or dying and its natural response is to
slow down your metabolic rate to preserve bodymass.


This post has been edited by ExpZero: Dec 17 2008, 08:25 PM
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post Dec 17 2008, 08:33 PM

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For me jogging is the most effective way to loose weight... 3x a week, each time ~30mins. Last time I use to do sit-ups, pull-ups, push-ups ... blah3 but end up jogging is still the best and yet simple. Just get a pair of running shoes and you're set to go.

Just my 2 cents....

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