Im not sure if this is true but my computer guy tell me that the crack version of antivirus actually download rubbish when u update them. Example is I use th eset nod32 with somekind of crack program to by pass the license and update the antivirus. Then the crack program which is suppose to download the update file instead download some other rubbish like spam or spyware...Is this common? or my computer guy just bullshit?

it depends, usually those crack.exe file might be harmful.... so always go for keygen instead of crack

Dont use crack lor...better use trial version one....much safer...

or free edition like avast home edition antivirus

Yeah some of them are..

For example my cousin got his original NOD32, then he went and download a cracked version of Spyware Doctor for his computer, and his NOD32 detected a trojan..

but its uncommon i think

what in the world are you talking about ?? crack.exe ?? why not virus.exe ? killyoucomputer.exe ? yourdead.exe?

@TS

my crack version of ESET Smart Security gave me no problem also.

not crack.exe..but to bypass the license thing i dun haf the license key...i download a program forgot what its called..then the program will do something which will make the antivirus able to update...like dat only lo..

Most of the time. Cra*k programs (not only cra*ked version of antivirus) will be detected as a virus. It's called a false positive. However, it may also be a real virus instead of a cra*k. Usually I download cra*ks in my Mac and scan it before transferring it to my PC. Another method is to download cra*ks in a virtual/guest OS through virtualisation.

hi,
Some antivirus may flag cracks as viruses because of the nature of the cracks. Some of these cracks contain similar codes to to what real viruses do and some do really contains virus as a way to get unsuspecting users to run it inform of luring you with a crack.

Now if you used cracked AV, don't go complaining that your AV did not protect you from this or that because the crack may have alter some stuff which the program manufacturer cannot guarantee against.

In fact got get a real copy. They don't cost too much nowadays.

p/s: we don't need Kaspersky spam posters telling us how cheap they are or how effective they are...

anyone got antivirus with crack license key? pm me plz..i scarred getting those crck program cuz later if they r virus my com will die...license key will be safer

I'm not sure whether were able to make such requests.

okay, first of all, you need to understand that i downloaded the trial anti-virus at the genuine website.
secondly, the meaning of crack license is that id and password that is given to the public for free.
the user id and password will be registred at the trial anti-virus thus making it a full payed anti-virus.

i use Windows Defender + Spyware Search & Destroy to scan my computer that is currently using a crack version of anti-virus.
to add somemore, i used a payed Norton Internet Security 2009 and scanned my pc.

NO VIRUS AT ALL.

Me too, I used NIS '09, SuperAntiSpyware Pro and Windows Defender and scan my cra*ks (not cracked license) and all came out as no virus but when I scanned it with BitDefender, it deleted the whole file automatically for me because it's a false positive.

but i certainly dont recommend you guys to use crack version of anti-virus.

unless you really know what you are doing, then its okay.

else,

just splash some $$ on a decent Anti-Virus / Internet Security.

Warez is all around the internet , I will upload the crack I downloaded to virus total and see the result .... I will only believe the result given by kaspersky+ESET.
I believe the crack u mention is securigard or nodenabler ... it does not replace egui.exe but it will find and install a public key for you(If im not mistaken since I didnt use it because i have original ESET) so there is no need to worry about it.
I only use crack from those warez team I believe in.

dun think so..since the definition is downloaded from the nod32 website itself...ur comp guy is talking bullshi~t

Well ya , I do think that guy is talking bullshi~t but if it replaced egui.exe , it might be able to alter the so called definition location right?

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Added on December 20, 2008, 9:16 amThere is no fully working crack for Spyware Doctor until now , the current keygen does not work at all but there is a crack which will replace the update.exe(4get the name) so you can still update the free user definition database and delete the virus but in the end it might not be that usefull since your not having the full definition database , not even half of it.

The reason NOD32 detected that as a trojan is probably because of false positive due to the native of the crack or maybe your cousin did download a fake Spyware Doctor which I think is uncommon.

Edit:removed the crack team name.

This post has been edited by ahinigami: Dec 20 2008, 01:14 PM

Please edit your post as we're not supposed to discuss regarding illegal matters. Please don't mention names of the warez group also. Thanks in advance.

frankly, it could be anything.
you DL'ed an unknown file from an unknown source, and what you u expect?

Let's say you own an Anti-Virus company. You earn a lot of money. You very happy.

Then, you got a group of very smart programmers who call themselves hackers and produce Keygens and Cracks etc.

Would you be happy in your sales drop? NO.

So, you blacklist their crack software. Crack = Virus.

That is how it works. Simple.

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So, if you want to use cracked software, use it at your own risk.

If you want to get licensed trial licenses, get it through proper channels.

If you want to get things free, then start learning the basics of things.

If you are an amateur and want to go after cracks etc, do so at your own risk. Knowledge is essential in everything.

~Cheers!

cant agree more of the last part that u just mentioned *thumbs up*

however, crack and virus are not equal, they are not the same thing.

Crack and viruses are not the same things but they're both bad

been sticking with eset 32 2.7 trial version and havent got any problem ,so far.

so u wan free stuff and problem free ?

Cracks are not viruses. True. But Anti-Virus Companies ALWAYS Flag them as viruses of some sort. Sometimes even Trojan Horses.

It is up to the user to know the truth and the semi-truths. AND, this type of users are at the minimum quite well versed in many computer aspects. Amateurs are definitely out of the topic.

I will say no further.

~Cheers!

nicely said ^^

This thread should be closed.

PIRATES TALK!!

Cmon-lah, anti-virus is so cheap nowadays, RM10 can get license from Garage Sales for Karsperksy. Cannot afford RM10 a year?? Coffee Bean pun tak cukup. You buy blardy pirated DVD also RM15!!!!

I've bought a retail package 3 user license(KIS) for RM80 the other day, works out to be RM27+ per PC per year. A very reasonable fee to keep my PCs safe for a year....and knows that u are paying the right people...not the blonde hair samseng in digital mall...

no need antivirus, windows firewall will do just find.

waa...so confident?

u r using \XP or Vista?
Even with AVG av , there are some viruses running.
For example, I found out Ravmond.exe run without being detected .

confident lies within experience. and i can sense amateur-isme in your post.

Thread closed pls?

Actually, what you said is quite true. RM10 for Ori Kapersky Antivirus but RM15 for Fake Kaspersky Antivirus that MAY get blacklisted in the future.

I used to do until until my friend plugged his dumb-tard thumbdrive into my computer and I got infected with some sort of "autorun" virus. Before that, I was very careful. Now, a days I never let any dumb-fu*k plug any "Plug n Play" devices into my computer.

Depends, most of them are, especially the ones which are downloaded from some Warez of P2P.

To understand the link better, try looking for this article on 'Underground Digital Economy' I can't remember the exact title. The paper was also presented at a local security conference some years back. In the article, it mentions the existence of RBN (Russian Business Network), Hong Kong triads etc.

There's a business relationship between these 2, triads...mafia's and coders. These triads pays the coders to create the 'crack softwares' and sell them or put it on the web.

When it is installed, run in your system, the malware will hunt for, well, bank accounts,credit cards anything and report back to the coders.

The Cyber Security Agency has a team to study these malwares, among them who always at security seminars and present his finding is Yomud.

Yeah..i m using Nod Smart antivirus with cracked serial key..no problem

You guys should start buying licensed AV instead of downloading or buying cracked ones.

I always read or here...like the one above 'no problem', but let it be known, there's no such thing as a free lunch, your system may been, fine...ok.

Making your PC into a zombie is an money stream for them, and its big business.

There are few outcomes..

1. They will detect and block you from updating
2. Your system becomes compromise as a result of malware which is hidden inside the AV, this usually happens from AV downloaded from warez sites.

If you can afford to buy a computer, you can surely afford to buy an AV software or even download a free-version.

And your proud of it =

Thumbs up for the part the blonde hair samseng....what's more they might not even bother if the stuff you bought can't work....they might scold you for it

er you didn't ask ur fren to press shift before inserting?

i think he is lying to you. Because alot of us never had such issue

Bro, press "Shift" for?

press Shift to prevent Autorun.inf being executed on medias (CD, thumbdrives, etc.)

Press when inserting or after insert?

in between

basically, when Windows detected a removable media, it'll try to locate if autorun.inf is in the root folder ...

so, press Shift just after your insert the media, but keep on pressing until the media is not read (e.g.DVDROM/flash drive is not blinking anymore).

usually it takes ~5 seconds after you insert the media...

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Added on December 27, 2008, 11:08 pmBTW, this Shift thingy no longer works starting with Windows Vista.

This post has been edited by cybpsych: Dec 27 2008, 11:08 PM

What I find interesting is that let say for NAV, you can always reset the trial status by deleting certain registry keys. As for now, there's no way to detect the bypass method, unless Symantec implement other way to detect it. Btw, the most, hardest, almost-uncrackable AV is Kaspersky. Sure, it got lots of "pirated" keys, but it always get blocked in a matter of time...

Just get the rm10 per year key and you're good to go. No need to resort to pirated AV.

Here's a little anecdote for those of you who are new to RBN and the links to some cracked AV,OS or other software...



if you cracked it yourself, well still wrong but fine. If you downloaded a cracked version from some warez or P2P...or got it from your pirated software peddlers (like what Low Yat Plaza used to be)... then you're playing Russian-Roulette with your personal information etc.

Very true indeed. There's nothing more worth than your personal data, and those cracked AV solutions aren't even enough to protect you since almost all crack sites/downloads will contain at least one *freebie* with it.

Well , I cant afford to buy a computer myself(My parent bought it around 2 year ago , 2.66GHZ , 512mb ddr - 64 mb shared memory , and 1 unkown graphic crad) .... My windows is ori , 1 of the 2 anti virus/spyware im using now is ori and 1 is pirated and all my other app is basically freeware or pirated , you dont expect a student without any income to buy adobe photoshop cs4 or any other software through internet/shop do you? Unlike some other ppl im not in a situation I can ask my parent for some allowance as they are already stuggling for my internet and my schl money so buying app is out of question for me when I cant even afford to buy anything.

If you know of some good warez site , it is very unlikely to have any 0day atk or virus in it .... My roboform is a cracked ver and I have my alertpay/paypal account stored in it but is there any1 taking out my money? The answer is a no .... Im not proud of using crack but the world does not work as you expected it to be so and my answer for this topic is no , it is very unlikely for a crack antivirus to be virus or at least for me.

Well I didnt use Kaspersky but I could not agree woth your Kaspersky to be nearly uncrackable because there is a crack called whitelist crack which will let you to use those blacklisted key jsut like whitelist key but Im not too sure cos I didnt use it.The most inperfect crack so far is for spyware doctor as they dont let free user to update the full virus/spyware definition so cracking is not really a good option.

1.x year ago I bought a license for NIS08 for 1xx or something like that im not really sure , anti virus nowadays sure is cheap if you find some good reseller ^^.

If you're a student and didn't afford to buy the Adobe Photoshop CS4 suite, why don't resort to alternative such as GIMP or Paint.NET? It's freeware and didn't cost you a dime to download. You're the typical I'm-a-student-no-money-to-buy-originals.

You said earlier you didn't have money, so what's with the alertpay/paypal account? Buying Rapidshare premium? Or something else that you said can't afford to buy?

There you're wrong. Do you know how many years it take to have the so-called blacklist patch? And the fact that it's only usable with the older Kaspersky 6/7 only? If Kaspersky themself want, they can just disable updates for those version and where you'll resort to? Wait for another working blacklist patch for Kaspersky 8? You didn't use it, but you talk like you've used one.

I word. Pathetic.

This post has been edited by FarCry3r: Dec 28 2008, 10:33 AM

Or you can just permanently disable the autorun feature from the registry. I find this "feature" more a liability than a convenience.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechn...ntry/93502.mspx

Just face the fact, using illegitmate versions of softwares will put you in some sort of security risk no matter how reputable the crack teams are (there're always chances that the files get altered during distribution). You should ask yourself: Is it worth it to risk getting your machine compromised with malicious softwares, when you just want to prevent it in the first place with antivirus software.

If you can't afford the paid version. Just use free and legitamate alternatives: Avira Antivir, Comodo Internet Security, OpenOffice.org, Irfanview, GIMP, Paint.NET just to name a few of these wonderful free softwares. There're no reason to pirating unless you're the typical "I'm-a-student-no-money-to-buy-originals" people who are too cheap to find alternatives.

This post has been edited by Pr1me_Minister: Dec 28 2008, 10:59 AM

Thanks for the help bro, but no point for me because I'm using Vista.

I dunno whats the complain all about. In life is now what you know is who you know just remember that.

Well , Im just giving Photoshop cs4 as an example , I did not mention im using it and I said "and other app"

No , Im not using it to buying anything but Im using to earn some allowance through advertisement and I dont have much fund in those account either since im quite new at those stuff but I've alreadt use those account to transfer money for a total of few thousand for reinvesting , I dont have any saving and I can only find rm12 in my wallet now but I dont use money much so oh well.
Well I have used it once when my NIS08 cannot removed the virus in my com this march(When I 1st discovered crack in this world) .... oh and did I mention I get the virus from a fake video of edison and Ah Kiu?All it matter to me is it working fine and no problem .... Kaspersky can disable those update if they wanted to but they havent yet so I will stick with Spyware doctor as the most inperfect crack since I use it for 3 month before I getting a free ori license but I dropped it after using the latest crap ver.

This whole fiasco reminds me of a scene in Terminator 3...



Remember that line, because your cracked AV (could be) is the Virus.

This post has been edited by trifecta: Dec 28 2008, 11:57 AM

Excellent quote I must say

it could even be the original antivirus is the virus itself because u too depend on it even its a virus u cant tell.

It would be pretty hilarious if the AV automatically install itself in other computers eventhough I only pay for 1 copy.

It depends on your preferences to determine if a software has the behaviour of a virus/ sypyware/ malware/ etc.