i wonder if this is the right place to post this topic. i have been trying to register for the SAT test. as i am i chinese, i am confused with what i should fill in the columns of "first name" and "last name".



This post has been edited by icycokes: Oct 29 2013, 11:13 PM

i think thats correct.. last name should be the family name..

I thought last name = surname/ family name?

I think that's correct, last name is your family surname which is Goh in your case.

i can confirm for sure that GOH is ur family/last/surname, while yin shen is ur first/given name.

so it will be written as Yin Shen Goh. another convention that the europeans have adopted is to capitalize the surname, like Yin SHen GOH.

There are 3 ways of dealing with Chinese names in the western context. Using your example, some people hyphenate the two words, so you end up being Yin-Shen Goh, with Yin-Shen being your name. Most Taiwanese follow this convention when writing their names with alphabets (just look at all the Taiwanese presidents).

The other way is to follow the PRC convention, and make them one "word". So your name will be Yinshen Goh. The only downside is that your name will be mispronounced a bit more than one would like.

Finally, the Malaysian/Singaporean convention is to just switch your name around, so your name is written as Yin Shen Goh. The downside to this is when you are called (in class, bank etc), you end up being Mr Yin Goh, as generally the "shen" is treated as a middle name and not generally used.

Wait till you see the "fun" I have with a English name. I really wish Malaysian passports would have a surname field. But I am aware that the Malay's and Indian's don't have a surname.

well thanks khairolnizam, Monya Meow Meow, azarimy and haya for the reply!

if it is in that case, do you all mean "yin shen goh" is actually same with "goh yin shen". because i am registered with SAT as "yin shen goh", i am pretty sure the name that will appear on my SAT admission ticket will be this one. am i ask to check ID before the test like SPM? if so, are both my name in different order the same and accepted?

i am worried that i won't be entitle to the test just because of the name!

This post has been edited by icycokes: Dec 17 2008, 12:05 PM

First Name : Yin Shen
Last Name : Goh

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If you have an English name then,
First Name : James Yin Shen
Last Name : Goh

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Chinese no middle name , only ang moh got . for example,
First Name : Hilary
Middle Name : Rodney
Last Name : Clinton

so whatever it is, my last name is always "goh" ?

i should just ignore the different between "yin shen goh" and "goh yin shen" because they are both recognized as the same?

This post has been edited by icycokes: Dec 17 2008, 12:15 PM

generally they are the same, but in some cases, you will need to get a lawyer to certify that both name are belongs to the same person, but in different arrangement.

as for SAT examination, it should be fine.

and yes, your last name is always Goh.

thanks youngkies. now i can register my SAT without worry!

good luck icycokes

usually my name charles lim tseng hin

1st charles
last lim
middle tseng hin

Make sure when you apply for universities, you make it very clear that your surname is Goh. I have had experiences where on the SAT the surname is Goh, but when applying to universities, something gets mangled up, and they think that Shen is the surname. If they can't find "Mr Shen"'s SAT results, well, no offer.

Gnerally it's not only for exams. When you guys comes to the real world; i.e. working society it is mostly also following that format when it comes to filling up forms.
Go AirAsia and you'll see whereby they would "remind" us that Last name is our surname.

First name is ur given name, i.e. Sharon, Lucy, Nancy, Bill, George or Siew Yee

While last name is ur Family name, a.k.a. surname. I.e. Bush, Clinton, Badawi (for Dato' Seri Abdullah Badawi), Lee, Chan

cleared?

This post has been edited by yapws: Dec 17 2008, 04:47 PM

well,
normally, the name will start with yin shen, Goh.
if u aware of most of the name tag, for chinese, always start with you first name, follow by last name : example: goh yin shen. will become
Y.S. Goh.

I am also confuse... there's one application where i need to fill in my name and they break it down into first name, middle name and family name..yes..its middle name not last name...its a japanese scholarship... lets say my name is Angelina Yeoh Siew Ling... whenever i try to fit in, it looks weird.. family name is of course our surname so i put it as Yeoh.. the problem is with first namer and middle name.. should my first name be Angelina?? then middle name is Siew Ling?? when combine will be Angelina SIew Ling Yeoh.. anyone can help?

jus put it as Angelina Yeoh S. L.

surname Yeoh

First Angelina S.L.


but i guessing oni



ur nickname is even more confusing
iziit
F40 like in Ford F40
or Fate
or fatty

This post has been edited by CarroTT: Dec 18 2008, 11:33 AM

cannot simply put initial..cuz this is formal application form have to break it down into family name, first name and middle name...

my nick is suppose to be confusing...haha