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naTTan
post Dec 17 2008, 02:31 AM

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Actually because the thread was started by blademaster i said considered this thread just to gather everyone and later on he will troll it. But whatever happen will happen i guess.

Anyhow, apa hukum dier kalau selipar yg dipakai pijak tahi anjing?
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post Dec 17 2008, 02:33 AM

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QUOTE(naTTan @ Dec 17 2008, 02:31 AM)
Actually because the thread was started by blademaster i said considered this thread just to gather everyone and later on he will troll it. But whatever happen will happen i guess.

Anyhow, apa hukum dier kalau selipar yg dipakai pijak tahi anjing?
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samak je...
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post Dec 17 2008, 02:36 AM

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@ Ixus....

*since, orang yang buat thread ni tak faham bahasa melayu

aku nak bagitau je(merujuk apa orang yang buat thread ni tulis kat CL) yang aku sedey la kalau orang buat main-main dengan agama orang.... i just want u to know thats has nothing with islamic teaching icon_rolleyes.gif


QUOTE(Canon_Ixus @ Dec 16 2008, 11:04 PM)
You can read the whole Quran in its original writings, Arabic?

That will be great!
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QUOTE(wanvadder @ Dec 17 2008, 02:49 AM)
Well, learning Jawi means we know how to read Arabic but not its meaning. Although the meanings are just similar to Bahasa Malaysia, most of it doesnt.
Aku bukanlah mempersendakan Islam, itulah mindset masyarakat melayu yang memikirkan ayat ayat yang digunakan untuk men'translate'kan Al-Quran dan Hadis tidak boleh digunakan untuk kehidupan seharian.

Cakaplah dengan mana mana melayu, kalau disebut Kitab, ianya akan pergi kepada Al-Quran. Tetapi ada banyak lagi Kitab seperti Kitab Al-Qanun fi al-Tibb. Ini merujuk kepada buku Al-Qanun fi al-Tibb dikarang oleh Ibnu Sina.

Adakah ini dianggap mempersendakan Islam? Tidak.
Ini hanyalah ayat yang digunakan untuk menggantikan ayat 'Kisah'.

Satu lagi contoh, Ibnu, Ibn, boleh merujuk kepada bin, Si Polan bin Si polan. 'bin' adalah perkataan arab yang merujuk kepada 'anak kepada'.

Jikalau ini mempersendakan Islam, janganlah menggunakan bin sebaliknya gantilah dengan Anak Lelaki/Anak Perempuan

Jadi tidak bermakna kita tidak boleh menggunakan bahasa Arab dalam kehidupan seharian kita.
Bahasa Arab ialah bahasa yang dipilih oleh Allah untuk menjadi bahasa Al-Quran supaya difahami manusia. Memang ada doa dan pelbagai lagi, tapi telah diberitahu untuk berdoalah dengan bahasa yang kamu fahami.

Mane tau ko baca doa baru, tak tau maksud, buta buta je ikut.

Cuba kalau aku sebut dalam bahasa lain.

Vaanakam, Guten tag, sawadikap, ohayou, assalamualaikum, selamat pagi, dan banyak lagi.
Assalamualaikum adalah bahasa ummah, tapi masih boleh digunakan untuk kegunaan lain.

Fatwa Imam Nawawi (Fatawa Imam Syaraf Nawawi):

Boleh berdo'a kepada orang kafir agar dia diberi petunjuk dgn lafaz "Yahdikumullah" (semuga Allah memberi petunjuk kepadamu);


Assalamualaikum warahmatullah hiwabarakatuh ini khas untuk umat Islam
Jadi tolong jangan campur aduk, ramai orang kat Arab bukannya muslim, tetapi diorang punya cara salam adalah Assalamulaikum. Ko nak dier tukar bahase ke?

Dan, aku dah leh nampak ko akan kata aku kapir laknat, boleh nampak dah. Itulah dia masyarakat melayu kita.
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aku setuju pasal beri salam...

long ago i heard something about greeting the non-muslim with modified assalamualaikum( i dunno u hav heard or not), particularly by my kampung friend and some in PLKN, the modified ver sounds like assammualaikum(or something like that), and the meaning is something like "may disaster/bad luck fall to u" .....
i cant accept that to greet people like that, although they are not the same religion as us, and might didnt know what the meaning behind it, but still i feel that is so stupid doh.gif , since the prophet never hurt his enemy (except in war).... he even visit his dying/sick enemy in their house, feeding the blind jew woman that always badmouth him... but since he know nothing more anyway, im just silent,(they talk stupid thing, even me dunno how to join their conversation)

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QUOTE(Oly @ Dec 17 2008, 03:33 AM)
samak je...
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actually it is sertu..... i know u referring to sertu, just, u know.... dont want to confuse people
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post Dec 17 2008, 02:43 AM

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guys have u heard about zionist, is zionist is really evil as cliamed by ustaz, this video will show u everything please turn to

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...post&p=22137895

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post Dec 17 2008, 02:45 AM

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QUOTE(PVCpipe @ Dec 17 2008, 02:38 AM)
actually it is sertu..... i know u referring to sertu, just, u know.... dont want to confuse people
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Jap sertu tuh apa?
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post Dec 17 2008, 02:45 AM

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Alhamdulillah, ada gak thread Islam. penat aku melawan thread2 sesetengah org bukak main2 Islam je. sekarang senang sket.. tanye lam thread nie.

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QUOTE(wanvadder @ Dec 17 2008, 02:13 AM)
Ive been to the Holy Land for umrah before, and Alhamdulilah, nothing wrong although theres some hardship going there.

Even still, its a one in a lifetime experiance, especially infront of the Kaabah, something, very special, I dont know how to explain it. The feel standing infront of the Kaabah is just truly something out of this world.

Insyaallah I will go again, except this time is for Hajj
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me too~!too bad at that time i was still a young boy(13 at that time)and dont really appreciate it.a huge regret.but the feeling can never be describe with words.it's worth a million years of hardship.
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QUOTE(naTTan @ Dec 17 2008, 03:45 AM)
Jap sertu tuh apa?
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sertu itu adalah cara nak suci dari najis berat..... 1 bilasan air+tanah, 6 bilasan air mutlak

samak adalah cara nak sucikan kulit binatang dari daging dan darah, supaya bersih dan tahan lama
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post Dec 17 2008, 02:56 AM

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QUOTE(PVCpipe @ Dec 17 2008, 02:55 AM)
sertu itu adalah cara nak suci dari najis berat..... 1 bilasan air+tanah, 6 bilasan air mutlak

samak adalah cara nak sucikan kulit binatang dari daging dan darah, supaya bersih dan tahan lama
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Ok so dalam hal selipar tuh kena ker sertu kan? Apa hukum dier kalau kucing belaan saya kena jilat anjing?
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post Dec 17 2008, 02:58 AM

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Reporting in~!

“I believe in the religion of Islam. I believe in Allah and peace.”
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post Dec 17 2008, 02:58 AM

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QUOTE(PVCpipe @ Dec 17 2008, 02:36 AM)
@ Ixus....

*since, orang yang buat thread ni tak faham bahasa melayu

aku nak bagitau je(merujuk apa orang yang buat thread ni tulis kat CL) yang aku sedey la kalau orang buat main-main dengan agama orang.... i just want u to know thats has nothing with islamic teaching icon_rolleyes.gif
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Tahulah...dia tu satu troll yang hamsap...ngan dulu nak tackle itu punya lady-boy famous di LYN (*Ssshhhh)
Tapi, untuk dapat thread Islam ini, kenalah berjaga jaga, dan adakan permission dan blessing dari admin..

Dan report je troll troll yang ada. Ya smile.gif

QUOTE(seijiseimura84 @ Dec 17 2008, 02:43 AM)
guys have u heard about zionist, is zionist is really evil as cliamed by ustaz, this video will show u everything please turn to

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...post&p=22137895
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Still no time to watch those clip la... but i guess their wominz in IDF are hotter and tempts men like me, make me feel so hamsap, so they must be evil.

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QUOTE(naTTan @ Dec 17 2008, 03:56 AM)
Ok so dalam hal selipar tuh kena ker sertu kan? Apa hukum dier kalau kucing belaan saya kena jilat anjing?
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for me u have to sertu the cat la.... since u want to pet, cuddle it....
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post Dec 17 2008, 03:00 AM

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canon ixus u zionist gtfo
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post Dec 17 2008, 03:01 AM

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QUOTE(PVCpipe @ Dec 17 2008, 02:59 AM)
for me u have to sertu the cat la.... since u want to pet, cuddle it....
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How to sertu a cat?

there's samak, sertu, and ...i think another one...I forgot!
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post Dec 17 2008, 03:02 AM

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QUOTE(R3MPIT @ Dec 17 2008, 03:00 AM)
canon ixus u zionist gtfo
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QUOTE(PVCpipe @ Dec 17 2008, 02:59 AM)
for me u have to sertu the cat la.... since u want to pet, cuddle it....
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Ok nih yg susah nak terima, takkan nak sertu kan kucing? Mcm tak logik, setiap kali i fikir pasal nih mcm tak bawa makna nak sertu kan kucing tuh. Sertu tuh utk membersihkan sesuatu yg telah diakatakan haram utk umat Islam pegang. Tapi kucing tak dimaksudkan, jadi kenapa nak sertu kan?
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QUOTE(naTTan @ Dec 17 2008, 03:02 AM)
Ok nih yg susah nak terima, takkan nak sertu kan kucing? Mcm tak logik, setiap kali i fikir pasal nih mcm tak bawa makna nak sertu kan kucing tuh. Sertu tuh utk membersihkan sesuatu yg telah diakatakan haram utk umat Islam pegang. Tapi kucing tak dimaksudkan, jadi kenapa nak sertu kan?
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Sebab bulu kuching ada najis?
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QUOTE(naTTan @ Dec 17 2008, 03:02 AM)
Ok nih yg susah nak terima, takkan nak sertu kan kucing? Mcm tak logik, setiap kali i fikir pasal nih mcm tak bawa makna nak sertu kan kucing tuh. Sertu tuh utk membersihkan sesuatu yg telah diakatakan haram utk umat Islam pegang. Tapi kucing tak dimaksudkan, jadi kenapa nak sertu kan?
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sebab anjing jilat. jadi ada najis mughallazah kat kucing tu.
kena sertu la. macam tangan kena, kena sertu. selipar kena, kena sertu. lantai kena, kena sertu. etc. etc.
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QUOTE(Canon_Ixus @ Dec 17 2008, 03:04 AM)
Sebab bulu kuching ada najis?
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Yeah the problem with this concept is that, if i have a Chinese friend who eats pork and washes his hand normally, i would still have to sertu my hand after i shake hands with him?

My point here is the contention that it is considered najis on the cat, since the ruling was made to Muslims, not animals.

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