Had the same problem before. Even running slightly rough roads also can heard the obvious noise from passenger side A-pillar. Initially thought the noise was from either dahsboard or side mirror. Went SC couple times and finally found the noise was actually coming from outside of the passenger side fender. The join part between fender corner and bottom of A-pillar. There a gap between these 2 sheets of metal which might cause some irritating noise when car vibrates.

You can either put some thin slice of rubber sheet in between and tighten the screw. Alternatively you can just use some force and pull the fender metal edge out abit then it may not possible to contact the A-pillar metal surface. The knocking may tunnel into A-pillar and give you the wrong impression that the noise is coming from inside the pillar.

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Added on February 4, 2009, 6:00 pmGot some intermittent annyoing noise coming from clutch and brake pedal when step on it. According to SC this is quite common, maybe due to cheapo quality spring used on the pedal join. Mark some grease on it will solve the problem:)

This post has been edited by mikimoto: Feb 4 2009, 06:00 PM

I own a N-line saga, if not mistaken here are the differences compared to B-line (1st batch) :-

1) No alarm, but comes wit central lock, install alarm outside include labor sud cost ard RM200 (even comes wit tilt sensor while original never provide ).

2) No power windows (proton's nitemare, beter instal outside instead of goin bac SC ).

3) Steel rims wit no rim cover but center caps, basicaly same rim as B-line except paint wit silver instead of falt black, sumore wit nicer wheel nuts (chrome). If u pla 2 change sport rims why bother bout those wheel caps?

4) Only available in white color (personaly i think looks great ).

5) Ful black fabric seat, B-line seat got mix wit some grey fabric in center. Basicaly more practical coz not so visible 2 stains. See wat seat color is toyota vios top S spec

5) Black color front & rear + rear plate garnish . Cost 2 send workshop sud ard RM300-450 (if u wan 2 paint d side mirrors n door handles like M-line).

6) No difference in terms of CD player.

7) Only manual transmission available (heard alot complains about auto petrol consumption, mine manual ard 13-16km/litre).

Actualy ther's not much mechanical differences across all specs, same engine n same transmission. Mos stuf r cosmetic differences except the dirver single airbag. Even d soundproof is same unlike toyota vios j spec wher d front bonet insulator is missin (coz sage original dun even provide )

Yup, sometimes d noise is quite obvious especialy car park overnite , aft couple press on clutch pedal then d noise disapear , goin 2 bring tis up 2 SC again when service tis week, thanks 4 d note!

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Added on February 10, 2009, 11:49 pmI use grease so it can stay longer, but kinda messy when apply Hear new batch drive shaft got spray wit base coat b4 assembly, no luck 4 old batches

This post has been edited by mikimoto: Feb 10 2009, 11:49 PM

Actualy proton ori paint doesn't cost much as white color not metalic but solid. Mine front+back bumper spray wit same white color code cost RM300 in sunway paint shop, ard RM250 if u opt cheaper paint, but d paint might peel off aft couple years. Furthermore the N-line bumper in actual already comes wit black color wit glossy coat (it realy look fugly wit d white color overall ). Heard N-line discontinued 4 year 2009 stock, not sure due 2 low demand or low margin...

Nice deal

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Added on February 11, 2009, 7:56 pmWat size of rims tat u fit on saga? I feel tat d chasis is quite solid feel n stiff when runnin over bumps n uneven road. But i notice d body roll is also quite significant if u tend 2 over steer or chagin course durin higher speed when over 80km/h.

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Added on February 11, 2009, 8:00 pmI heard d IAFM inlet manifold is made of plastic, when it's declared faulty n replacin it did u notice any cracks or unusual 4 tat part? If not i think d only way 2 identify is 2 listen 2 engine sound. Mine sometimes abit harsh when cold start at morning. Not sure it's engine or tat manifold tat causing it. Previously usin 20W50 engine oil n 2nd service SC recomend 15W40.

This post has been edited by mikimoto: Feb 11 2009, 08:00 PM

My N-Line manual blm saga give me constant 13-16km/litre for 60% highway & 40% city drive

Before 1000km service the fuel consumption around 12-14km/litre. Using cheapest mineral 15W40 shell from SC. No additive added and still with original 13 inch steel rims.

This is a basic car with DOHC 16 valve without any bells and whistles like vvti, idsi or cvtc thingy . Just equiped with an Integrated Air Fuel Module (IAFM) which resolved the campro engine torque dip problem . Plus the over 1000kg car weight, i would say the fule consumption is decent .