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 PROTON SAGA BLM CLUB V6 HOHOHO!, OMG ITS ALREADY V6!!!

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post Mar 26 2009, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(jacktai @ Mar 26 2009, 10:57 AM)
Not sure what fuel using as it pump by the SA, I just got the car for few day. I really don't press the pedal, just enough to drive the car. Anyway from my understanding its doesn't mean it use less fuel if maintain 2k rpm, the FC are control by your right leg. As it you are driving up hill but using 4th gear, sure the rpm <2k, but you press more fuel than usual. I drive at 80km/h at 2.5k rpm, but I just touch the pedal that enough to maintain the speed.

I think good control of your right leg and gear shifting is a crucial to lower the FC.

BTW You really rev the car, 4.5k rpm really high. You must driving fast.


Added on March 26, 2009, 11:04 am

I think it doesn't matter, as you don't run the engine or left the engine idle mean nothing change in the oil. Think again, how to do with the Proton stock/ the show room car which already idle for more then 2 month. They rare move the car or not drive at all. Does they need to service every month even though the engine rarely run?
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new car ah...thn take it slow
it takes time before your FC improves.....after few service...sure u can see it
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post Mar 26 2009, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(jacktai @ Mar 26 2009, 10:19 AM)
My new BLM Manual already 200km, from full tank, only use up 2 bar only. I'm aiming for 400km for a full tank. I rarely pick up (speed up) the car, let it slowly gain speed.

BTW, anyone know will it spoil the car if I let free gear at the slope?
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it wont spoil,juz dat abit dangerous as u might coudlnt control it nicely if sumth happens,my advice is put 2nd gear or 3rd gear so dat wont be so dangerous, blush.gif


Added on March 26, 2009, 11:10 am
QUOTE(MR_alien @ Mar 26 2009, 10:38 AM)
what fuel are u using?....
yesterday i gatal go pump esso synergy F1 for a try
with 10 liter spare and RM10 of shell green on my meter...i go pump RM30 esso
give me 5 bar total......the 5th bar drop as usual...around 80KM
but when it drop to the 4th bar......the 4th bar won't drop even after i driven 80KM and that day i got rev until 4.5K RPM
usually if i rev like that...70KM already drop....but won't drop...lol
and pretty powerful too....u should try change esso and see your FC how...
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esso to me is too powerful,til my leg itchy,and my rpm needle fly too high,hence my fc is oni 16 cent/km,lol

This post has been edited by Wuakaka: Mar 26 2009, 11:10 AM
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post Mar 26 2009, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(Wuakaka @ Mar 26 2009, 11:09 AM)
it wont spoil,juz dat abit dangerous as u might coudlnt control it nicely if sumth happens,my advice is put 2nd gear or 3rd gear so dat wont be so dangerous, blush.gif

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Sure when I free gear sure I wanna speed up without the pull by the engine, especially come to toll, need to slow down or come to a traffic light . (Even 5th gear will slow the car) Like that can save more fuel.

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post Mar 26 2009, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(jacktai @ Mar 26 2009, 11:38 AM)
Sure when I free gear sure I wanna speed up without the pull by the engine, especially come to toll, need to slow down or come to a traffic light . (Even 5th gear will slow the car) Like that can save more fuel.
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if is on a even road sure la can,i also did tis always,but my fc still the same,LOL
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post Mar 26 2009, 12:07 PM

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850km can go first service or not?
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post Mar 26 2009, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(Wuakaka @ Mar 26 2009, 12:03 PM)
if is on a even road sure la can,i also did tis always,but my fc still the same,LOL
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Then I think you must press a lot of throttle while driving, try get use to the gear. Last time I drive Kancil 660, a under power car, I must fully get use to the gear in order to gain speed, otherwise no matter how much fuel u press it won't accelerate(if u r in a not suitable gear at that speed).

Kancil I able to get FC RM0.10/km for city drive. 50% traffic jam.

This post has been edited by jacktai: Mar 26 2009, 12:24 PM
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post Mar 26 2009, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(smokey @ Mar 26 2009, 12:07 PM)
850km can go first service or not?
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yes u can,lol


Added on March 26, 2009, 12:31 pm
QUOTE(jacktai @ Mar 26 2009, 12:23 PM)
Then I think you must press a lot of throttle while driving, try get use to the gear. Last time I drive Kancil 660, a under power car, I must fully get use to the gear in order to gain speed, otherwise no matter how much fuel u press it won't accelerate(if u r in a not suitable gear at that speed).

Kancil I able to get FC RM0.10/km for city drive. 50% traffic jam.
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b4 tis i every 2k change gear,still getting the same fc,so now i not happy ad,then 1st gear 2k,2nd gear 2.3,3rd gear onwards then whack 3k ad,lol

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post Mar 26 2009, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(Wuakaka @ Mar 26 2009, 12:30 PM)
yes u can,lol


Added on March 26, 2009, 12:31 pm

b4 tis i every 2k change gear,still getting the same fc,so now i not happy ad,then 1st gear 2k,2nd gear 2.3,3rd gear onwards then whack 3k ad,lol
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For sure you are a fast & furious guy, then no choice gonna paid the price loh, lol.

Anyway as I said, it doesn't mean u shift gear at 2k rpm is saving the fuel, main thing is how much u press the fuel. Likewise, when u in free gear, just touch the pedal, the rpm can go up to 3k plus rpm. Its doesn't mean it take more fuel, but burn efficiency in the max. I think most case of high FC are cause by poor burning efficiency(u stress the engine for power).

This post has been edited by jacktai: Mar 26 2009, 01:01 PM
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post Mar 26 2009, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(nazri86a @ Mar 26 2009, 12:38 AM)
labour charge for 1000km if free but of course u hv to pay the engine oil, transmission oil, and so on... i think last time i kena about rm100++...

BTW my car hv clocked at 34,000 KM and sudah 10 months..  flex.gif  flex.gif
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mine ngam ngam 6 months!! bruce.gif mileage now 157XXkm

still running strong, power window still functions,

Promblems only the phi phi sounds from left front door and the IAFM doh.gif


Added on March 26, 2009, 2:18 pm
QUOTE(boysrule @ Mar 26 2009, 12:54 AM)
wah.. i buy from johor. but stay in cheras.. lolx. so should be any authorized service centre also can? i dowan void warranty le.... if not then straight bring to outside do cheap cheap. anyone know any authorized service centre around cheras perdana area?
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pandan indah and taman muda , ampang i know la...haha..i suggest you go pandan indah one laugh.gif

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post Mar 26 2009, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(torresism @ Mar 26 2009, 02:15 PM)
mine ngam ngam 6 months!! bruce.gif  mileage now 157XXkm

still running strong, power window still functions,

Promblems only the phi phi sounds from left front door and the IAFM doh.gif


Added on March 26, 2009, 2:18 pm
pandan indah and taman muda , ampang i know la...haha..i suggest you go pandan indah one laugh.gif
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6 months at 15k mileage?
mine 5 months near only 4k mileage.. drive everyday to work, and still havent done 2nd service(maybe thats why my FC sucks)..

so far my huge problem is the leaking power steering liquid, have to add in every week.(still not fixed) rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(four_add @ Mar 26 2009, 02:21 PM)
6 months at 15k mileage?
mine 5 months near only 4k mileage.. drive everyday to work, and still havent done 2nd service(maybe thats why my FC sucks)..

so far my huge problem is the leaking power steering liquid, have to add in every week.(still not fixed)  rclxub.gif
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i everyday travel from pandan indah to Glenmarie leh, it is far!!!! almost 70km per day go and back.

my travel route:

MRR2 (jam)- East West link (very jam)- NPE - Federal Highway (very jam)

laugh.gif laugh.gif

See...i still able to get rm0.13/km


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post Mar 26 2009, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(torresism @ Mar 26 2009, 02:25 PM)
i everyday travel from pandan indah to Glenmarie leh, it is far!!!! almost 70km per day go and back.

my travel route:

MRR2 (jam)- East West link (very jam)- NPE - Federal Highway (very jam)

laugh.gif  laugh.gif

See...i still able to get rm0.13/km
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You are really good! Might to share you secret of fuel saving? BTW normally how long you travel for working?

I travel from Cheras inside Tmn Connaught to PJ Kelana Jaya take >1hour to arrived office. Lucky not work in Shah Alam. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(jacktai @ Mar 26 2009, 10:19 AM)
My new BLM Manual already 200km, from full tank, only use up 2 bar only. I'm aiming for 400km for a full tank. I rarely pick up (speed up) the car, let it slowly gain speed.

BTW, anyone know will it spoil the car if I let free gear at the slope?
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When going downhill, better let the gear intact, as the ecu will cut off the fuel supply, saving petrol at the same time nod.gif
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QUOTE(heavencloud @ Mar 26 2009, 03:15 PM)
When going downhill, better let the gear intact, as the ecu will cut off the fuel supply, saving petrol at the same time  nod.gif
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What do you mean by the ecu cut off fuel supply?? and saving petrol at same time?

Cause when u which to 5th gear, sure it will slow down your car by little little bit.
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post Mar 26 2009, 03:35 PM

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as long as ur not pressing the throttle, no fuel will be burnt cos the throttle body is closed. so if u wanna decelerate u can do it in any gear, which is called engine braking. but the lower the gear, the more the engine braking.

the only time fuel is burnt is when u press the throttle or if the rpm drops too low, then the fuel is burnt at the idling rpm. but more modern cars have shift blips that increase the rpm (burning more fuel) when shifting gears, even without pressing the throttle.
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QUOTE(jacktai @ Mar 26 2009, 02:41 PM)
You are really good! Might to share you secret of fuel saving? BTW normally how long you travel for working?

I travel from Cheras inside Tmn Connaught to PJ Kelana Jaya take >1hour to arrived office. Lucky not work in Shah Alam.  laugh.gif
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secret of fuel saving: you have to know ur blm "behaviour" laugh.gif

make sure the power is enough before change gear, just make it smooth to run.. laugh.gif


Added on March 26, 2009, 6:35 pm
QUOTE(radmaszeal @ Mar 26 2009, 03:35 PM)
as long as ur not pressing the throttle, no fuel will be burnt cos the throttle body is closed. so if u wanna decelerate u can do it in any gear, which is called engine braking. but the lower the gear, the more the engine braking.

the only time fuel is burnt is when u press the throttle or if the rpm drops too low, then the fuel is burnt at the idling rpm. but more modern cars have shift blips that increase the rpm (burning more fuel) when shifting gears, even without pressing the throttle.
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note: this engine braking isnt that engine breaking, please see carefully!!! laugh.gif

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post Mar 26 2009, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(torresism @ Mar 26 2009, 06:34 PM)
secret of fuel saving: you have to know ur blm "behaviour" laugh.gif

make sure the power is enough before change gear, just make it smooth to run.. laugh.gif


Added on March 26, 2009, 6:35 pm

note: this engine braking isnt that engine breaking, please see carefully!!! laugh.gif
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Just like to know what time you leave Pandan Indah and time arrived Glenmarie??
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QUOTE(jacktai @ Mar 26 2009, 06:53 PM)
Just like to know what time you leave Pandan Indah and time arrived Glenmarie??
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erm...since connaught there no more U-turn now (what the FuxK mad.gif ), i need to wake up more earlier.

today i come out from my house in pandan indah, around 7.15am, reach office around 8.05am liek that, sometimes east west link really jam, make sure u reach the 50 cents toll before 7.30am

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how about u?

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QUOTE(torresism @ Mar 26 2009, 06:59 PM)
erm...since connaught there no more U-turn now (what the FuxK mad.gif ), i need to wake up more earlier.

today i come out from my house in pandan indah, around 7.15am, reach office around 8.05am liek that, sometimes east west link really jam, make sure u reach the 50 cents toll before 7.30am

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how about u?
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You are fast man, we travel the same route everyday ha ha, but you're since faster then me, I leave at 7.20am only arrived at office 8.32am.

Just a lot of traffic light at SS2 that slow me down.

Anyway need to leave home b4 7.15am in order arrived office on time. Otherwise everyday need to stay back to compensate the late. cry.gif

Everyone who travel can view the KL live traffic at

http://llmtrafik.gov.my/traffic.aspx

http://www.itis.com.my/atis/live_traffic_i...hot_default.jsf

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post Mar 26 2009, 07:26 PM

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jz done my first service at PJ sec13...cost me rm13x.xx...
they only have petronas engine oil...semi-syn 15w/50 is the best they have...
after first service, rpm climb much faster...


Added on March 26, 2009, 7:29 pmdamn the rattling sound still exist from my front left door even after they said they fixed it...
btw, can i know whats the offset for ori alloy rim?

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