Storm is right...the IAFM is easy to break
mine if not wrong....broken AGAIN
same like last time....still working and sucking win but have "tak tak" sound...
going to change it again....hahaha....
2nd time change...see when is my 3rd time

yumi-yumi
its not the issue of the colour of the bumper.if im not wrong, u lost quite numbers of acesories and functions from ur car.no power window, no cd player, no alarm..er..thats wat im aware from la.my dad used to aim at N-line but on 2nd thought, he went for B-line.spraying the bumper need undercoating.expenses for a perfect paint for ur bumper will cost alot.rather that u juz get a B-line(s) which has the nice paint job done, right?if im not wrong, i think Proton is planning to stop the production of N-lines..

You used ur own engine oil but ur invoice didnt write so? Hmm.

I'm not really sure what brand engine oil I used (actually it's just cap ayam bought from carefour XD). But it's 20-50W la...Why?

Heehee, I didnt read up the manual, and yea I didnt really follow what iCare told me as well, since I'm bringing my own engine oil no matter what they said, that time on the phone I just ask along cuz I was asking something else as well.

No, it's not just the paint that cost 4500.

Difference in features between N and B line: alarm system, remote doors, power window, and radio with cd player (if not mistaken the rims are kinda diff too). And oh yeah for N-line there's only manual no auto. That means with N line you get a very basic panda car with ONLY central door lock =)

This post has been edited by Eve2211: Feb 10 2009, 06:36 PM

if u wanna use cap ayam...better u use back SC provided petronas one....
if u wanna buy, buy sometime nice....castrol, 76, shell, motul, Q8 etc.....

No cuz the engine oil's already sitting at home (I think my dad bought extra due to promotion or something), I didn't purposely go to CF to buy the cap ayam for my car XD

Actually I also thought of buying good ones...for next service will do...

I own a N-line saga, if not mistaken here are the differences compared to B-line (1st batch) :-

1) No alarm, but comes wit central lock, install alarm outside include labor sud cost ard RM200 (even comes wit tilt sensor while original never provide ).

2) No power windows (proton's nitemare, beter instal outside instead of goin bac SC ).

3) Steel rims wit no rim cover but center caps, basicaly same rim as B-line except paint wit silver instead of falt black, sumore wit nicer wheel nuts (chrome). If u pla 2 change sport rims why bother bout those wheel caps?

4) Only available in white color (personaly i think looks great ).

5) Ful black fabric seat, B-line seat got mix wit some grey fabric in center. Basicaly more practical coz not so visible 2 stains. See wat seat color is toyota vios top S spec

5) Black color front & rear + rear plate garnish . Cost 2 send workshop sud ard RM300-450 (if u wan 2 paint d side mirrors n door handles like M-line).

6) No difference in terms of CD player.

7) Only manual transmission available (heard alot complains about auto petrol consumption, mine manual ard 13-16km/litre).

Actualy ther's not much mechanical differences across all specs, same engine n same transmission. Mos stuf r cosmetic differences except the dirver single airbag. Even d soundproof is same unlike toyota vios j spec wher d front bonet insulator is missin (coz sage original dun even provide )

2) power window....better have thn install outside...install outside will cost alot..cuz need alot of things to install
if have...it's under warranty...they will change for u
mine have problem...but after they change the power window machine....not problem already

5) every line's fabric is different...u can go showroom and see
but no matter what fabric, need to cover also after get car for protection...cuz the fabric absorb water and sweat

7) i think auto more fuel guzzling than manual for this car....normally is manual saver than auto...but from what i heard, this car is the other way around
maybe manual user like to rev high as what they say 5k for every gear

and saga have absolutely no soundproof....the only place have soundproof is the floor
door, bonnet, trunk and any other place dn't have....close the door also know....BANG!

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Feb 10 2009, 08:06 PM

Mr alien

regarding to the IAFM thingy, do we need to tell SC there to order the IAFM for us before we goign to change it? or there is ready-stock over there? cos i suspect my IAFM died already, can hear the "tak tak " sound when car is idling, firstly i tot is timing belt sound...

This post has been edited by torresism: Feb 10 2009, 08:59 PM

just book a time
thn go....if they have stock, thn they will straight change....if not thn only they order...
u have to go 1st cuz they need to confirm IAFM problem....

i got this kinda sound from my clutch oso. went to SC n they told me it's caused by rusted part. did u guys check ure power steering pump too. mine got rusted under the aircond hose n the driveshaft. the SC ppl help me to sprayed with black paint bought by me n redirected the aircond hose to the open ground.

under aircond hose dn't know but drive shaft have rust is normal....spray wd40 and wipe thn no problem already

Yup, sometimes d noise is quite obvious especialy car park overnite , aft couple press on clutch pedal then d noise disapear , goin 2 bring tis up 2 SC again when service tis week, thanks 4 d note!

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Added on February 10, 2009, 11:49 pmI use grease so it can stay longer, but kinda messy when apply Hear new batch drive shaft got spray wit base coat b4 assembly, no luck 4 old batches

This post has been edited by mikimoto: Feb 10 2009, 11:49 PM

yeah u r right. btw....is d N-line still on sale????

Eve2211
Dun tell me u plan to have the 20w50 in the 1st service initially??OMG!!or maybe the 2nd service too??

sAm fIsher
i got the aircond hose issue.but i din do anything.the technician say it is nothing big deal and wont spoil any of my driveshaft either.

nern@h
the best way to know is to go to the sales centre and ask.

proton claim that blm fc is like this:

SAGA 1.3 A/T: 27.4294 KM/L
SAGA 1.3 M/T: 44.7191 KM/L

any one here can do like this, my uncle had a manual blm,
but he only manage to get ~16KM/L. is there anything wrong with his blm?

hi, there, ytd i hit a saga, but the car juz suffer from scratches in the front bumper. may i know how much it costs to repaint it? i dun wan the lady owner to con me wif the bill.

wasnt that from the "lightfoot challenge" ? its a horror ride to save fuels

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Added on February 11, 2009, 11:42 amIf u dun wanna get conned. u bring her and the car to ur fav workshop and cover the bills. its ur obligation under ur own condition as long as her car get the same spec....just my opinion

This post has been edited by kaizou: Feb 11 2009, 11:42 AM

picture? scratches ah....rm200 gua

by the way u only 20 years old?

TS, add me

nicknuck | solid white - M-Line (auto)

around 150 for whole bumper. more or less..