thanks bro!!

i think what he said was..the pictures that he posted was beofre he altered and got them hem chain stitched...he said he will post up some pictures of his chain stitched hem soon

woa the 24oz is out? i prefer this one rather than the blue in green edition...am still wanting to get my hands on them 21oz weird guy...but this 24oz weird guy is to die for!! i like them stitching..and the leather tag is as thick as the iron heart 21/23oz pair...where r u staying btw OdynVovk

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Added on February 2, 2010, 8:36 pmhttp://www.nakedandfamousdenim.com/?page_id=48

This post has been edited by treflip: Feb 2 2010, 08:36 PM

again..lemme say this..if ur planning on buying pre-washed jeans you shouldnt be worried about the size..u can buy ur true size coz there arent such thing as shrinking/stretching issue (although there might be a bit of stretch but most of the time there wont be any). all that about the sizing down shit is applicable only if u buy raw/dry ones...

and to answer sembilan...yea dude i sized down 3...u sized down 4?? man!! youre the man!! hehehe...but i think its best if u bought a size 27 at least...i have a waist size 30..i bought the 27 and it hurts at first...after a few days of wearing it hard it stretches out and it became comfortable...when i meant hard it didnt mean that i went hiking in em hehehe....try going to bed with it..sit at home the whole day in it...do stretches in it...but dont be surprised after atleast a month of wear u'll find that u will need a belt hehehe...my 27 did actually fall off my butt when i ran once in them...that shows how much it stretches...but then again...it depends on what kind of cut ure looking for as well...if u wanna have that skinny look but not comfortable in sizing down 4 might as well u get ur self a nice pair of petite standard...i assume u bought the new standard?

goldlion dude!! ur lee's are dope!! classic cut man!! hehehe

btw anyone here ever bought a pair of levi's stf? not the selvage ones but the ones made from wide modern looms? its cheap!! and the fading and the hue it produces which i saw in mynudies are quite awesome!! but then again nothing beats the LVCs hehehe

its another term/slang for group or gang hahaha

nice pictures guys!!

tht is a good pair...looks good!! but then again..too bad its a pre-wash pair..would rock if its a pair of raw..

anyways..the sugar cane type II is dope...but its a pair of one wash sugar cane..i wonder how these pair would fade? would it takes more time for them to form all the creases and fading compared to a raw one? anyone has any experience buying this one wash canes? perhaps the one wash denime?

dude seriously...you'd rather spend a thousand on a pairi of pre-wash distress jeans rather than spending it on a pair of brand new, un-treated, non-distressed jeans that wont last as long compared to a brand new raw? its like u spend more on a second hand car which is already worn out rather then spending less on a brand new one..its like buying a second hand BMW which has not been taken care off, that is falling apart waiting for the days to crumble rather then buying the latest brand new BMW model fresh from the show room or may be the factory...

why i would rather spend more on a pair of raw that would not 'fit me at first' which will be snug fit and would loosen up a week after is the way it should be coz...u would buy a jeans that would fit you rather than buying a pair that would not, i.e that is loose...coz buying raw jeans that is tight or fitting at first would result in a perfect fit that would confirm to ur body shape...imagine if u buy a pre wash fit that is in the beggining fits u slightly loose...would be even more looser as u wear them? would it not fit u perfectly on ur body after a few wear? and it being pre wash how can u ever possibly make it fit u again by washing the jeans as it wont shrink down at all?? plus if you buy a raw pair it would last you a life time rather than buying a pre-washed distressed jeans that has a lesser life span of may be half or more than half compared to a brand new raw pair...

and you would rather spend your buck on true religion and 7 jeans rather then the ever superior levi's LVC that is the true classic that started it all?? my gosh u better get ur info and knowledge straight son reason why i said so is...if you really wanna go into this denim culture u have to start seeking for all this info... and to the denim enthusiast and their argument being very logical is that, lemme make it easier for a term to be shortened and to be easily understand...true religion and 7 jeans are crappy shitty designer wanna be premium jeans that rips off customer's money with their ever high price but lacking in quality... Levis LVC being expensive is considered naturally occurring phenomenon..they started it all and if u wanna compare the quality in superiority, LVC has the upper hand compared to true religion or 7 jeans...honestly all the other designer brands are wannabes...Levi's keeping it true and having the best material built in them is something compared to true religion or 7 jeans that has 'nothing' built in them if u wanna compare it...unless u wanna compare evisu and true religion or 7 jeans i can say you should pick evisu but go for the raw japan made or at least the heritage or the numbered selvage ones like the no1 or no2 etc etc...do not go for the EU ones..to tell u the truth the eu ones is not suppose to cost you a bomb like above 1k...the EU ones are the shittiest evisu line...somewhat the same status as the evisu X puma...

to make it easier for u to know which brand are considered premium denim are the ones that are known to be japanese brand denim like samurai, sugar cane, denime, flathead, iron heart, momotaro, doubeworks, Edwin, rbj, japanese evisu, pbj, etc etc...these denim can be compared to Levi's LVC...the reason why japanese denim and japanese denim brand is the most superior denim compared to others is a whole different story which i assume you guys are able to look for it yourselves.....so premium denim can be rated as such, beggining with the japanese denim makers being on top (and perhaps LVCs are catogoraized here as well, correct me if im worng), then non-japanese brand denim which uses japanese selvage material such as naked and famous, APC, nudie, dr denim, etc etc,,,brands like true religion, 7 for all mankind, ed hardy, etc etc are considered last or not even being in the category of premium denim at all to some denim enthusiasts. in other words these brands like true riligion etc etc are, once more, wannabe premium denim brand and to some would call it 'posers'. They are hyped up just becoz of celebrities rock them and not becoz of pure quality and soul of the denim...i.e they are expensive purely becoz of the fact that they are designers and not becoz of the quality they possessed..

but then again in the end its up to u and ur preferences...if u like true religion and all these designer brands with no quality then go for it...if u like these japanese premium denim that has quality in them then go for it...but its up to u to decide and its up to ur wisdom as well...spend your money wisely...think about it yourself peace guys

ps..japanese premium line, levis LVC, and the non japanese brand denim brand that both uses japanese selvage are considerd superior compared to the wanna be premium designer denim brands like true religion are so is becoz these premium denim brands uses japanese made selvage denim and american made selvage cone denim whch are the best in the world...God knows about the material used in brands like true religion, 7 jeans, ed hardy, evisu EU, evisu puma etc etc uses in their denim...and plus having the low quality denim material build in them and for the fact that they are pre-washed and distressed?? my gosh imagine how low the quality of the jeans would be after all the distressing...how easy it would break!! would u spend 800 bucks or so on something that would break easily compared to raw denim? think about it...

No no..peace just a phrase i alwasy use la bro..its another way for me to say 'signing off'....well its ok that u bought the pre wash evisu..but whats done is done..so just rock it till its really broken into...urs i think is not the japan nor th eeu one...the eu one has the eu written on the leather patch..yours is most probably made in maccau...all i know u can only get japanese made evisu, well in japan of course...or u can get them from the blue in green webstore online or u visit the blue in green store itself in new york as they are the only one in the states that brings in japanese made evisu...i think may be they are the only online store besides japan site that carry japanese made evisu...other than that evisu's are either made in maccau or china or italy..etc etc...in kl the only good one for me is the levi's LVC..other than that there is oen shop in bangsar called juice which carry's in japanese brand street wear stuff like head porter and such and they also have this one raw denim by head porter plus....but since u alwasy go back to JB and always go to singapore than ur best bet is get them in singapore...u can go to queen's couture, front row, the lawn etc etc..they stock up good jeans..and also u can always visit uniqlo and get them all japan made raw selvage jeans for a good decent price...rather then buying evisu i recommend you contact this dude and visit his thread..he can help u get better jeans like the flat heads etc etc

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1254494&hl=

yea i get my tee's and work shirts from uniqlo too...man u should have gone to uraharajuku when u were in tokyo...i bsacially spend one whole day there going from one shop to another...went to their APC store...the supreme store...man...u could have visit kaihara and buy your own roll of selvage denim hehehe

damnn!!!! ur canes looking good!! one question...ur canes is a one wash/rinse or pure raw? i am wondering if one wash ones can be easily creased and fade out...and one more time...ur canes looks awesome!! and i agree with hedonkop...it seems like a greencast denim...

i suggest you soak them first before doing any alteration...but then again how tall are u and whats the current length of the inseam of the jeans yea? if the tag says it will shrink i think its a unsanforized denim and the length would shrink along...and i suggest u read on about unsanforized jeans...coz some o read they would wear the jeans for a few days then only soak the jeans...but some soak it straight away before washing...

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Added on February 8, 2010, 10:26 pmyea i do admit i have a few of pre-washes before...amongst the raws that i own...no one can deny all raw denim freaks started out owning distressed denim without knowing anything...i admit that...and through the years i learn and now i'm just sharing it i did say at the end of my argument that no matter what others would say or other's opinion that at the end of it all its up to the individual and that person's taste.. and i can tell u that my taste evolves and the things that i know i gained through my life's experience..my taste was from loose cut jeans which i dont care about the wash to a classic or modern cut jeans with it being raw and now i've learn from it all...from being ignorant about denim (owning pre-washes jeans which are expensive and money wasting) to the fact that at least now i have an idea about what this denim thing all about...

all i was doing is just voicing out my opinion..in my own way

This post has been edited by treflip: Feb 8 2010, 10:30 PM

hmmm if that is the then u can alter but then again if u do make make sure u alter it not too much...if the evisu has a 34 inseam just alter it to a 33 to be safe or 32.5...coz when u wash it it will shrink a bit...unless if u r rajin enough to stretch the inseam after ur first wash when its still damp...to get the desired inseam length...and since urs is sanforized then u can straight away rock ur pair without having to soak it first

apc and naked & famous are sanforized :-)

i guess its because of the fact that the last collection which u see with the huge design of diacock etc etc with the weird out look was designed by the same designer of ed hardy....that collection was terrible...but now from what i've heard is that evisu is going back to basics...slowly going back to where they started...

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Added on February 9, 2010, 6:19 pmwhy dont u consider of getting urself a pair of petite standard? the cut is very nice

This post has been edited by treflip: Feb 9 2010, 06:19 PM

havent really been wearing them as it is on a very low rotation coz i'm working more on my current APC...but all i can say about the 21oz is it is very thick but not that stiff tho..coz n&f didnt startch the 21oz unlike APC which are highly starched...i may buy a starch spray soon for my 21oz but still considering...but 21oz is already hot to wear...and i bet 24 oz would boil u out!! hahaha

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Added on February 9, 2010, 8:05 pmpersonally i like the petite standard more,,,plus it has the self-edge outseam visible unlike the new cure..the petite standard is nice coz its almost alike to the nudie grim timm

This post has been edited by treflip: Feb 9 2010, 08:05 PM

i dont think they have black petite standard...

i think raw denim in general will stretch...its the nature of the jeans being raw/unwashed...so no matter what brand if it is pure raw it will stretch =)

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Added on February 21, 2010, 3:42 amno worries bro...the looks of stains from ur raw denim on white sneakers and on white fabrics are one of the most beautiful sight on earth!! hehehe...seriously to me it is...i dont mind getting my white kicks being stained by all the bleeding indigo...u know ur jeans are pure raw if it bleeds like no body's business...

btw i found this one raw skinny denim at topman and it was awesome!! it does not have the typical topam jeans embroideries on them pockets...plus at the hem it has chain stitching.. and the whole cut reminds me of my beloved nudie thin finn dry stretch (non-selvage ones)...this topman raw skinny jeans arent selvage but the fact that its raw makes me think of getting it every day and night...still considering of getting it...but i dunno...what do u guys think? it really reminds me of my thin finn and somehow i have the urge of getting another new pair of nudie thin finn either dry stretch or getting another pair of dry stretch selvage again....the smell of the raw denim itself is similar to the raw denim u find on nudie jeans

This post has been edited by treflip: Feb 21 2010, 03:42 AM

i wear em one each a day...hehehe...lately it became quite warm to wear selvage material since the wheather in kl right now is so freakin hot!! and i sweat like mad =( looking for an alternative to selvage...maybe light weight modern loom jeans with raw finish just for the so called 'summer season'...plus its cheap for me to wear em right now and dispose of it later once i'm sick of it hehehe...

no worries...thing about raw denim that it will surely stretch...a size 30 wearer can fit a size 26 APC bro.. =)plus if ur going for grim tim dry stretch it has the ability to stretch more...since the name says it all =) but i reckon u get a thin finn dry stretch

nice fit bro!! perfect fit!!! how much did u got em for? and where did u buy it from?