well, have test drive, rammed the car to 7k rpm (to test the i-vtec open). a bit disappointed , but it is a CITY after all. 1.5 i-vtec gives u mild vtec feel.

but the cabin quietness is ok, during vtec open, u can hear a small 'praang' but that's it. it dies at 7k rpm.

was disappointed with the price and HM. it should priced lower or with more features. now i even realized that modulo E-spec got Goodyear excellence..hmmm....
rm4,750 for modulo kit is way too expensive for me, heavy 16" modulo rim is RM2480, might as well get kedai potong 16" japan lightweight. better.

btw, did u guys know that Thailand's release got Modulo Grille oso, damn nice....

in India, u can get White, and manual trans. price? less than RM60K.
Honda India : Honda Citywebsite more detailed info for City compared to HM.

in conclusion, my wife likes it and booked and confirmed PMM. arriving march. Squeezed the salesman for free test drive shirt and card holder

as for tinting, HM / Kah motor gives RM500 voucher for a Kah Motor-Vcool tint (vcool is their partner here), so a tint with 63% infrared tint, costs RM1700 or can go to Vcool and get 15% discount for tinting.

just my own opinion.

why after test drive; ppl say city is less pick up than vios
1. weight of the car
2. rim size
3. this is a new engine, new gear box so need time for tuning. not like vios using the same engine the same gear box over all the version of vios.
4. bore & stroke size is diff
5. torque & HP for both car is diff. from the spec stated on the paper; if travel @ a certain speed; i think city will be more advantage.
6. gear ratio will also be diff. to make city perform better maybe there's a better gear ratio which someday the engineer will find out

com'on la.. one is sohc; one is dohc how to compare? one thing i admire is that honda always bring the technology to the top. if u put a sohc version on vios engine; will it able to produce 120hp/145nm??

honda always proven in technology; while toyota is improving in minor mistake to make things more perfect. as u can see that the 1st version vios compare with the dugong version; the gear shift is much smoother.
so goes for avanza.

fingers have long n short; nothing is 100% perfect

Modern SOHC Honda engine is proven better than old technology Toyota DOHC.
Accord R20A SOHC engine produce nearly 10ps output higher than Toyota DOHC engine (148ps). Even though the new accord is havier than Camry, the 0-100 time is faster than Camry. This clearly shows that Honda SOHC engine is better than Camry DOHC engine.

Honda replaces its K20A DOHC 2003 Accord engine with newly developed R20A SOHC engine on Accord 2008. This new R20A engine has a lot of advantages over the old K20A engine. Some of the advantages of the R20A engine is:
1. Light weight
2. Higher output (156ps compared with 150ps on K20A)
3. Higher torque (189nm compared with 186nm on K20A)
4. Smaller in dimension
5. More efficient (less mechanical frictions loss due to less camshaft)
6. Variable length intake manifold to spread torque over the entire RPM range, 
7. Integrated exhaust manifold to reduced space.
8. New i-VTEC technology that control the amount of fuel by controling the valve
    opening and closing timing instead of using trottle valve in a conventional
    engine. This will reduce pumping loses which will make the engine more
    efficient.
9. Coated cylinder block to futher reduce friction loses.
10. Oil jet to cool piston which enabled the engine to run on higher compression
      ratio (higher output without need to use higher octane number fuel).
11. Additional air flow sensor on both intake and exhaust to precisely control the
      exhaust emmision for a more environmental friendly engine.
12. And many more....

Conclusion:
Honda main target is to constantly improving their product to satisfy their customer and environment. Not like Toyota, they still use the old technology engine so that they can cut cost and offer cheap cosmetic items to their customer just to attract old minded and old tech customer  as long as they can sell their product. (eg: Avanza and Inova still use cheap non-independant rear suspension (axle type same as lorry and old van), Camry still use cheap macpherson type front suspension, WISH still use rear non-independant beam suspension same as old Iswara. Vios, Altis, Avanza, Inova, Wish and Camry still use 4 speed auto transmission, all Hondas are already use 5 speed.  All this Toyota tricks are not well known to their old minded and old tech customer    in malaysia.

Think again..... 

For your info, Dual VVTI is just an additional unit of VVTI system installed on the other set of camshaft for DOHC engine (mean that both camshafts (intake and exhaust) has variable valve and timing) . There is nothing special about that. (Another tricks from Toyota) . It is not a new technology at all. The dual VVTI system is not installed on a low to middle price car to cut cost. If you are not sure about the system go and ask people who know well about it. Dont just listen to the Toyota salesman.

Do you know what is ECT?. ECT stands for Electronic Control Transmission. Nowdays every car in the world use ECT or Electronic Control Transmission except for a very cheap car like Kancil (still use mechanical / hydraulic control). Even old proton Waja already use ECT for their gearbox. (Another trick from Toyota) . My previous Accord (1987 model) already use ECT gearbox. Electronic control transmission (AKA ECT) is actualy a mechanical gearbox which is electronically controlled by ECU. By using this type of gearbox, engineer can easily program the gearbox operations by simply program the ECU according to the car and engine behaviour.
Again there is nothing special about ECT or Super ECT by Toyota, the only different is how the engineer programmed it. If you dont know or not sure, please ask the people who knows about it.

Think again.......
Happy new year!!!!!

Isn't this a Honda City thread?

You still don't seem to understand, do you? Honda doesn't just spend money on the BIG VTEC like you say they are. Do you know why Honda are paying attention to these so-called lowly VTEC like the ones on the City and Civic (FD1)? It's all about the dollars and cents. Your high-revving consumers who buys them Type-R or 3.5l Accords do not make up a big chunk of the sales. Take a look at the sales in Malaysia, why does the City, Civic FD1 etc make up a huge chunk of HM's sales? Because the general public who commutes to the city for work doesn't care about BIG VTEC and high-revving engines. How often do you rev > 5,000 rpm and rev. it up to 8,000 rpm to feel the kick? You're probably stuck on the Federal Highway or the LDP for crying out loud. The same goes to the streets of Bangkok etc. That's why Honda is developing engines which are suitable for the general public which focuses on low-to-mid range torque and fuel efficiency. That's how Toyota does it; making cars affordable for the masses. Targeting market share over niche markets.

people who prefer 4AT camry, altis, and vios are also non-sense and stubborn. they do not know how to choose between the good and the better.. 

If that way, I think both combination of lock is the best. Steering lock I guess "StopLock" is recommended and break lock should be "Locktech".

I feel these locks act more as a deterrent rather than anything. It's like a hardened padlock for your grille. It helps a little, better than just locking the door / grille with those flimpy std issue locks. Which I think is better than nothing. Better safe than sorry.

But I guess it's important to add that when you park you car at home, please don't park outside (if you're lazy).. at least it'll make it harder for the thief to steal your car if you park in your compound. If it's a condominium, I do hope your Security Guards are working..and park at brightly litted up areas.

btw.. off topic, andrekua..are you by any chance from East Malaysia (KK)?

You know if you guys are so afraid of new City being stolen, you might as well spend the extra money and implement a GPS/RF tracking system into your car. I think it's better than spending on steering/pedal locks which only deters but can't help you recover your car.

A friend of mine had her car stolen sometime last year but had it recovered later in the day. Her 1st car got stolen and she decided to have the system implemented in her new car - definitely saved her a lot of trouble of having to go through insurance and what not.

http://www.netstar.com.my/index.html
http://www.netstar.com.my/index-vehicle.html

EDIT: In fact, when you buy the new City - your car insurance by default is usually Tokyo Marine or Mitsu-Sumitomo, if it's TM, they have a special offer package for the tracking system.

My sis-in-law's XC90 which was stolen last year took 3 months before the insurance released the money to her. That's considered fast, average cases take about 6 months and many 9. Your mother's case is considered lucky, the mid-life refresh version came out shortly after her old city was stolen. In an odd sort of way, its like a blessing in disguise considering you get more for the same amount of cash but at the end you've still spent more to buy the new car. Just think about it.

If you recover your stolen car - it only cost about 3k for a very good alarm system and additional will go to repairs if required. The new car, after repaying your stolen one, will still set you back that additional 10% downpayment plus time and emotional stress of the entire ordeal. Right now, this is the new Honda City we're talking about, a mid life refresh is NOT going to happen for at least another 3 years.

Anyway, it's my opinion and I'm not critcizing anyone in particular but I just don't understand the mentality of spending money on something that improves the aesthetic value of a car rather than on money that protects your asset. To me, it doesn't really add up.

Cosmetic fins for Wira is actually for rally purpose. Hehe...
Just don't try to be funny to fix it on your City.
I'll be the first one to laugh at you if you do that.

for the time being, got 79K, 9yrs, 2.85% CIMB