hi guys, im now considering to buy seiko criteria SNDB23P1, ANY COMMENT about this watch??

if any1 here selling, offer me the price.

thx!!

another 1-2K more can own a Dornblueth on Calibre 99.0 man! still so humble and say Dornblueth unattainable. U looking for the regulator or those complications?

not sure if U read this IWC vs Dornblueth 99.1 review
http://www.watchbizz.com/archive/wt_2006_0...2006_02_058.pdf

this is on Dornblueth 99.2.. power reserve
http://www.watchbizz.com/archive/wt_2005_0...2005_02_068.pdf

I have to agree GQ is bad!

Dornblueths are more expensive than you think. He has been raising prices non-stop. I'm looking at the 99.1. A USED 99.1 is comparable in price with a Grand Seiko SBWG001. Nice articles there! You seem really in touch with watches; your repertoire in this field is large.

I also restored the movement by myself.

now i am more to  ....

if the watch stop then how to make it start back? shake it?

"Grades:

Standard and Elaboré:
Mainspring - Nivaflex NO
Shock protection - Etachocs
Pallet stones - Polyrubies, Epilame-coated
Balance - Nickel gilt
Balance staff - Epilame coated
Collet - Nivatronic
Hairspring - Nivarox 2
Hairspring heat treatment - Etastable

Top and Chronometre:
Mainspring - NivaflexNM
Shock protection - Incabloc
Pallet stones - Red rubies, Epilame-coated
Balance - Glucydur gilt
Balance staff - Epilame coated
Collet - Nivatronic
Hairspring - Anachron
Hairspring heat treatment - Etastable

The performance differences are the big differences between the various grades: ("The limit values are subject to interpretation: 95% of the pieces delivered in a lot must be within the specified limits.")

Standard:
2 positions (CH, 6H)
daily rate: +/-12 sec/day
Maximum positional variation: 30 sec
Isochronism (between 0 and 24 hours): +/- 20 sec

Elaboré:
3 positions (CH, 6H, 9H)
daily rate: +/-7 sec/day
Maximum positional variation: 20 sec
Isochronism (between 0 and 24 hours): +/- 15 sec

Top:
5 positions (CH, FH, 6H, 9H, 3H)
daily rate: +/-4 sec/day
Maximum positional variation: 15 sec
Isochronism (between 0 and 24 hours): +/- 10 sec

Chronometre:
As per COSC specifications, which as far as most owners will notice, isn't much different from Top grade.

I'll be magnanimous and tell you my unvarnished opinion. Are you ready for it? Nah, I don't think so. Therefore: It's a nice little Seiko that fits current taste in watches. Plenty watch enough for most people. Those philistines.

not the entry level 99.0.  ... 99.1 more expensive by a good US$600. not found a brand that is keeping prices low.
if Seiko don't jack up prices as fast might as aim for a 99.1. the longer U wait, the dream seem to go further away. Today, I doubt salary increase is that fast.
http://www.watchbuys.com/store/pc/viewPrd....82&idcategory=0

not seen much pre-own Dornblueth around. can pt me to a site where they have them?

Darn! U restore the movement! I also wanna learn some basics. there is a school near by that teach entry level watchmaking upon completing can apply for the Rolex Diploma program. Still trying to find out how to enroll.
was reading around, some started using a China Unitas 6497 (Asian 6497).
timezone has a online school program.. care to share how U learn? that I really have no idea.

FYI: Chopard LCU is working on a 10Hz Escapement out of silicon. double Zenith El Primero.
I love Ranftt site, tons of vintage watches and movements.

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Added on July 27, 2009, 2:55 am
don't be confuse.. ask and I will try my best to explain.
if automatic watch stop, U can wind the crown and it will start movement.
A light shake will start it.

An Kinetic watch, the battery should keep the watch running for a longer period of time.

A Swatch watch, expect Standard Grade movement, so expect it to gain/lose a max of 12 secs every 24hrs.
Kinetic quartz.. maybe 1 mth 1-5 secs (didn't check just on top of my head).

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Added on July 27, 2009, 4:18 am

can i be greedy? can i ask 1 more question pls...

then got any difference if buy a swatch from e-bay but not genuine type? maybe in terms of spoil faster than original, rotten faster..or anything bad things except warranty & trust issue...

cos i know he only like originals watches..need to fund money to get him one..summore i myself student only...haih

and maybe only can give him like next year on his birthday begining of the year...how sad...aihs...

can i be greedy? can i ask 1 more question pls...

then got any difference if buy a swatch from e-bay but not genuine type? maybe in terms of spoil faster than original, rotten faster..or anything bad things except warranty & trust issue...

cos i know he only like originals watches..need to fund money to get him one..summore i myself student only...haih

and maybe only can give him like next year on his birthday begining of the year...how sad...aihs...

yes, u can! don't mind a few/dozen more. u're welcome to ask.

not seen a fake swatch. I don't thinking buying on ebay is a problem. IIRC I bought my swatch Irony on ebay, till this day its still good.
buying on ebay, no gurantee. cheapest 1 I saw is US$139 + shipping.
do note, its plastic do scratch easily. need to buy PolyWatch Scratch Remover to remove scratches.

u're a nice gf! he is lucky guy!

it is a ZENITH GRANDE CHRONOMASTER OPEN EL PRIMERO XXT MENS WATCH

Heres the  link on how it looks like : http://www.authenticwatches.com/035.html

I would like some comments from some sifus here

I know zenith use to sell movements only then after that they started selling watches, this watch is using zenith own in-house movement.

Is this watch worth RM 18.8k?

because my previous watch was using an eta movement  and many say it wasnt worth the money.

huh? wat is PolyWatch scratch remover? the watch that i asked is Plastic mer? not stainless steel ar?? 

Zenith under the new CEO (the Moroccan guy) has become something of a joke to those who knew the old Zenith. They were the most aggressive in making pocketwatch-sized wristwatches with the sort of extroverted design that appeals to teenagers. Yeah, I know, generation gap and all. But I'm in my mid to late twenties myself. Not that old yet.

Yeah I meant Nataf. I googled, and found out he was fired recently. The Zenith of today is a product of Nataf.

fire? I thought he left to pursue something outside. he has been around for quite sometime.. 2001 to 2009.

anyway, care to share how u learn your watch making skills?

Well, I'm a mechanical designer (what the French and Germans call a Konstrukteur) by training, so I design precision mechanisms. But I work now as something else. I used to repair old mechanical cameras as a hobby. Compared to cameras, watches are peanuts. They are very simple, very abbreviated, very elegant solutions. The design of most classical movements is very stable, with only the most minor changes from model to model, unlike even old cameras where each new model entails a complete redesign of everything inside. (The exceptions are exotic movements.)

I restored my grandfather's pendulum clock when I was 16. It was bloody, because the mainspring sprang open and cut a deep wound into my thumb. Etc. But it ticks now, and has an incredible wire gong.

I also read a lot about it.

But I'm no longer in touch with mechanics. I mostly manage people nowadays. Now those are even more complicated than old cameras.

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Added on July 28, 2009, 1:17 amleft on own wish to pursue other interests = fired

BTW, try searching for Thierry nataf on timezone. Do it.

European culture... hmm.. can't really tell what they mean by just that sentence without any background.
some actually did leave to start up their own business or what not. having work with Germans/Finnish/Brits don't really know.
a quick scan on timezone, plenty of haters, plenty of rumor too! Rolex, Hamilton, Omega etc..
judging from that, Fired is very likely! ya certainly no shame... he did tried his best. U find ppl loving their design. I like the crazy defy design too, but its just super expensive! Now I like their classic  elite models.

if the New CEO moves away from the crazy design.. prices of those wacky type may drop quite a bit. Can keep an eye on the LVMH friends and family sale postings on fatwallet.com. Even when they say no resale, U still find plenty getting exchanged!

Oh... Mechanical engineer! no wonder U appreciate the mechanics in such detail. No Mechanical engineer here.. didn't have the passion until late 20s.
few ppl actually look at watches the way U do. Most ppl its status, fashion, some even go to deep and say its a expression of ones character like the clothes they wear. Like Real.
people are more complex of course! LOL..
Guess I need to find a way so I can start bottom up...

im buying this for RM680, is this a good price??

I think it is, for so much steel, so many hands (7), so many subsidiary dials (4?), and so much lettering.