Hi to all sifu, need your advice, I am preparing to buy my very first watch which i need something tat looks formal ( preferrably metal straps) and will not be very expensive since i'm only a college student and all the function i may need is able to read time and date, budget rm500 top, can give me some advic specific brand or model and wat factor should i consider before i make a deal. Eg.If it is a genuine watch.

I am aiming for an Oris watch for a very long time. My targeted model is the F1 as well but with a simpler dial face. The retails price is RM4.2k and with a normal discount of 25%, it will be RM3,150.

Anybody know where I can get better bargain on the watch? I am also open for suggestion. Anybody can suggest me a better bargain of watch I can buy with my budget, pls do let em know. This is my first expensive watch and I dont wanna spoil it.

Thanks friend.




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My dream watch is a Dornblueth. It's made largely by hand by Dirk Dornblueth, a second generation East German watchmaker. His watches are the best implementation of an aesthetic the Germans call the B-Uhr (Beobachtungsuhr) or Observation Watch. Prices start at RM 18k, which is why it will remain a dream for now. Here are some pics, as antidote against all the super sporty, techno sports watches on this thread.

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Added on July 24, 2009, 5:26 pmHere is a B-Uhr from Lange. Most German marine watches had this typical look.



This post has been edited by kotmj: Jul 24 2009, 05:26 PM

expensive taste..
I love inhouse movement.. blue screws... but the movement kinda plain.. not much engraving going on. very true to German style like A. Lange & Sohne, GLASHUTTE ORIGINAL and Nomos, still waiting to find out more on GLASHUTTE UNION. read they also use inhouse but they only sell their watches in 3 European countries and do not do any internet sales!

anyway, prices start at RM 18K at retail? saw online on watchbuys prices starts around US$3.5K.

prices always go up.. JLC reverso was my dream when I was 20yrs old.. saw it in SG cost only SG$1.5K today I suppose around SG$5K after discount loh..
anyway, 1 fine day U will see your dream come true! I saw mine on my wrist.. a little JLC reverso duo day/nite.. an upgrade from my 1st dream watch. LOL

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Added on July 25, 2009, 6:55 amOris 635 7595 41 94 MB NEW ORIS WILLIAMS F1 TEAM DAY DATE MENS WATCH??
get online! just need to be extra careful and check reviews on watchnet, watchuseek etc.

these ppl might be able to help
http://www.friendsoforis.com/forum/index.php?showforum=1

or I heard Oris in SG is cheaper than internet grey market deals. if U can afford to drop by.. can get 1 there!

This post has been edited by patryn33: Jul 25 2009, 07:38 AM

Plain? Well it *might* look plain-ish (though I can't see how it is plain) because there are only two bridges visible. The three-quarter plate dominates. The three quarter plate used to be a big deal back when watches were assembled by hand, because to get all the wheels in the right position before capping them with one big plate required more work and skill from the watchmaker. As recently as year 2001 Dornblueth used to make them with antiquated pre-war machines (he would trade his watches for machines) and plenty of elbow grease. He is much wealthier now, and actually employs people. Back then, it was only he and his father working from home.

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Added on July 25, 2009, 10:49 amBut really, Dornblueth is out of my league for now. If it wasn't for this year's economy, I could have a Grand Seiko through my bonus. But there won't be much of a bonus this year.

This post has been edited by kotmj: Jul 25 2009, 10:49 AM

Too bad Glashutte Onion new watch no longer using in house movement, they using ETA now.
This happened to most of the mid range watch company after joining swatch group.

Mind to share your JLC Reverso pic here? one of my dream watch.

Too bad maybe this year can't buy new watch, got info this year bonus less compared to last year.

I'm interested in pictures of the JLC too.

hey at least u have bonus, I have none! else I would have gotten a JLC Atmos Clock

I knew they are part of the swatch group. Glashutte Union is kinda in the lines of Omega..
To carry on the Glashütte name, I doubt they are getting ETA movement from swiss. Maybe heavily mod those movement.
or maybe like Longines, getting exclusive movement from ETA (like the new retrograde watches). Leverage on their R&D and manfact.
at least I would think they would leverage swatch distrubtion network, but still they only sell in 3 European countries.
zero online except chrono24.com

anyway.. their movement according to swatch
http://www.swatchgroup.com/en/services/arc...the_collections


BTW: Did U get the <BULK> Rolex deal? 2% on top of regular discount.. does it come with AD stamp?

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Added on July 25, 2009, 7:52 pmthanx for sharing the history of Dornblueth! alot of mechanical movement in that region seem to share the same style. the reason I say its plain, cause some swiss manufacture will engrave the 3/4 plate. So at 1st glance to me it appeared plain.

Grand Seiko? the price pt also along the lines with Dornblueth. Bonus big big man! plain 1 already 280K yen b4 tax.. of course can get discount, and siam tax! add a date display the price jump so much! love their spring drive!
http://www.seiko-watch.co.jp/gs/collection...tml?pid=STGF059
my in law wears a gold credor!

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Added on July 25, 2009, 11:19 pmCan try jap watch...
Oriental Watch (usually cheaper than seiko), seiko 5 lower end but a bargain!
http://www.pmwf.com/Watches/WATCHSALES/Sei...eSalesTable.htm

certain russian watches also cheap, might have to up budget a little to get cool ones like the below.
of course U can find those priced at rm340.
http://www.russia2all.com/russian-watches-under-200-p2/



just steel, with date.. should be no problem, vostok Europe usually pretty good deal
http://www.smirs.com/advanced_search_resul...&sort=2a&page=2

an American brand with a Swiss heart.
http://www.bernhardtwatch.com/chronograph.html

This post has been edited by patryn33: Jul 26 2009, 12:52 AM

here's something for the new guys to read:

How to Buy a Watch

This post has been edited by jind86: Jul 26 2009, 02:50 PM

No! Not GQ. Please not.

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Added on July 26, 2009, 2:14 am"Grand Seiko? the price pt also along the lines with Dornblueth. Bonus big big man!"

No, not Spring Drive. I like manual wind watches, so it has to be the SBGW0001 for me. About RM 11,600 from Seiya.com.

This post has been edited by kotmj: Jul 26 2009, 02:14 AM

another 1-2K more can own a Dornblueth on Calibre 99.0 man! still so humble and say Dornblueth unattainable. U looking for the regulator or those complications?

not sure if U read this IWC vs Dornblueth 99.1 review
http://www.watchbizz.com/archive/wt_2006_0...2006_02_058.pdf

this is on Dornblueth 99.2.. power reserve
http://www.watchbizz.com/archive/wt_2005_0...2005_02_068.pdf

I have to agree GQ is bad!

This post has been edited by patryn33: Jul 26 2009, 05:53 AM

lol ok then comment changed to "here's something for the new guys to read:", im not a watch enthusiast really, and i find the info there somewhat interesting to read so am just sharing =)

i have owned a few watches, tissot, swiss army, seiko, Fortis, Ball, Casio, etc... my favorite watches
are those with rubber straps.... now looking forward of getting a casio pro-Trek with compass..

hi guys, im now considering to buy seiko criteria SNDB23P1, ANY COMMENT about this watch??

if any1 here selling, offer me the price.

thx!!



This post has been edited by andrew1st: Jul 26 2009, 05:17 PM

anyone know how much its a swatch watch? kinetic function i think..

This post has been edited by yeelin04: Jul 26 2009, 05:42 PM


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SWATCH BODY AND SOUL AUTOMATIC SKELETON.. around 560-600
BTW: its not kinetic, it a automatic.. there are difference between the 2 technology.

so expensive..need to fund money to buy..ahahaaa

but issit like no need to use battery?? cos heard my bf said its not using battery der wor..

automatic use a spring, of course they aren't as accurate as quartz kinetic. do lose/gain some sec every 24hrs. don't wear for 2 days and watch stop
kinetic use a capacitors/battery.. changing kinetic energy to electric to power the watch. older kinetic watches do have problems with capacitors cannot retain energy.

now i am more to ....

if the watch stop then how to make it start back? shake it?

y no ppl wan reply me de? pity me