Christopher Ward C600 -- price paid for a nearly new item US$380 (with shipping) original price US$595 + US$20 for shipping
http://www.christopherward-usa.com/product_info_c600.html
I have to apologize for not able to get u nice pics when I unbox it. the best i cold do is to give U lume pics

- worn over 2 days accuracy is +6sec, +5sec deviation is +1sec
- not used to ETA 2824, but with SW200 its irritating that when i adjust the date the hour starts from the morning. should I adjust the hour 1st to nite 7pm and adjust the date to the next day, it sucks that the 7pm I just set is 7am.
- Box do come with a polish cloth.
- bezel turn nicely, not like DOXA or high end diver watches it only takes 60 clicks to go around. Higher end Dive watches usually takes 120 clicks.
- nearly new item, didn't find any scratches.
- signed crown and buckle
- its a long time since i wore a rubber band, takes awhile for me to get used to. The length is really nice for those who go diving.
- I get the same 60:60 warranty as with new watches.
- took them 2-3days to ship order. takes about 5 working days to reach me.

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Added on April 17, 2010, 9:45 pmmore pics






This post has been edited by patryn33: Apr 17 2010, 10:26 PM

if its a ETA 2824 clone, i would expect the same behavior in ETA 2824

thanx! those GTLS gas tubes like ball watches.. can expect sweet lume.
maybe the cheapest swiss auto watch with Tritium gas besides these brands Luminox , KHS, Traser, UZI, KHS, FBI which made quartz watches.
I think a quartz Luminox today would at least US$200.

only the diver series from Christopher ward has the gas tube.

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Added on April 18, 2010, 8:32 amgot to agree with Jr.Koh, prices in malaysia is better if U going thru AD.
Seiko or Tissot.. ask yourself which model/design and your budget?
are U getting a quartz or mechanical? FYI some seiko5 are made in Singapore.
when U looking at Tissot, U may wanna look at Hamilton, maybe Orient (part of Seiko group) or even Christopher Ward (today's online Tissot/Hamilton).
http://www.christopherward.co.uk/nearly-new/nn-men.html

U can check out the below, they (base in SG) do carry affordable and well build value for money watches.
http://www.gnomonwatches.com/index.htm

some believe Seiko mechanical can run forever very robust. nice thread on it.
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=145004

I like Seiko Spirit design and yes they are japan only model. some may not like it as its on the small size just 37mm 22yr old guy may not like it. usually they want a chrono or something that look sophisticated.
http://www.seiyajapan.com/product/S-SCVS01...15-SCVS013.html


I am guessing maybe u like this?
http://www.longislandwatch.com/Orient/Orient_Watches-3.htm

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Added on April 18, 2010, 8:57 amTag lume cannot last, I get them to relume after 2yrs or so... its like not having any lume.
Super-LumiNova lume can glow brightly for like 1-2mins.

This post has been edited by patryn33: Apr 18 2010, 11:18 AM

I went thru TAG to do it that time, it cost me and arm and a leg... hehe
the truth I didn't just relume that time, i also change battery and they did overhaul service too. so its really costly.

i am pretty such place offer relume service. u may have to dig around. getting a job done nicely is hard.
http://www.tscservice.my/index.php?option=...&id=8&Itemid=15

This post has been edited by patryn33: Apr 18 2010, 10:22 AM

authorized dealer

I think U and miaopurr are confuse with Tritium gas. They are self powered and do not need UV light unlike your Tag or most watches.
why they get get lume pics? the glow is constant and its easier to get great pics.
unlike superluminova the lume decay with time fast.
http://www.abouttime.com/abouttime/ball-wa...tubes.page.html

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Added on April 18, 2010, 7:45 pmissue with pp around the region.. Seiko is well known but its often associated with cheap watches.
ppl on the streets may not know U are wearing a US$2-3K seiko watch (FYI iirc movements are will be used in TAG Heuer).
http://www.seiko-watch.co.jp/bz/phoenix/concept/ph_mecha.php

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Added on April 18, 2010, 7:51 pmI think their design is very Macho/masculine, lots of subdials very cool. Casio Edifice gold are gaining popularity too. cool gold and black carbon.
value for $$ for young adults wo only care about complications and super accuracy anyway, I love their Spring Drive gmt, but it cost ~us$4k.
http://www.seiko-ananta.com/jp/index.html#/collection
eg



This post has been edited by patryn33: Apr 18 2010, 08:29 PM

JLC.. glass??? thats Sapphire crystal. be must have knocked it really hard.
go thru AD, I think maybe close to 1k.

No possible, those Japan model are not for export. AD cannot carry them in.
only way is online (U can pay with paypal.com, U can tap into your funds in bank no need credit cards)
which watch are u looking? U'll be paying ~2-3% more than RM1310 for sure.

This post has been edited by patryn33: Apr 18 2010, 08:42 PM

come on.. the wall?? I bang into steel rails so many times on my tag and its still clean. Wall and broke..
not sure what JLC model he have, but ~1K is for the full service including glass.
not done in Malaysia, just guess as Rolex cost RM$500 to service I read here, JLC may cost about the same + cost of sapphire and labor.

go to agree with ck77, be cheap and just replace the sapphire crystal, U may end up replacing parts and that may cost U 2-5X the amount to fix!

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Added on April 18, 2010, 9:00 pmno AD will bring the cost b4 today's selling price.. the Brands wouldn't allow that either. They have to consider what if USD/EUR become strong again for this yr how? they are not willing to lose out on profits, thats Biz for U.


so are u calling the hot babe to get her out on a date??


This post has been edited by patryn33: Apr 18 2010, 09:00 PM

even if U take it to JLC service center, U need to leave it there to get a est. They wouldn't give U a unreliable quote.
I have not met any watchmaker that will give me a quote without taking a closer look. don't wanna leave it and worry, just go to AD and get it done.
customer wouldn't be happy, when they quote price A and later upon closer examination its A+X.

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Added on April 18, 2010, 9:12 pmwow! like that she don't have any commission..
I think U have to pay without discount to get her on a date.... haha... or hint that... go date then U'll buy without discount from her.


This post has been edited by patryn33: Apr 18 2010, 09:12 PM

warranty will not cover this.. U'll be paying FULL as if watch is out of waranty

according to this watch magazine. they are top tier.. like those brands they do have watches in the US$300K range. i owned a 1960s vintage zenith and the winding on the movement felt like winding an expensive watch such as my JLC reverso. I have a vintage Mido running on AS movement, it felt like my CW C600 watch running on SW200 or my spouse Oris running on a ETA movement. although the feel on my Zenith Defy didn't felt like any of the above.

http://www.europastar.com/europastar/magaz...t_id=1003545084

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Added on April 19, 2010, 1:54 amIn malaysia that may happened.. In USA, SG those registered ones no worries..
even with a display case u can tell??
anyway.. around 49% of those ETA movement parts also made in China.. watch maker replace with these chinese parts also nothing wrong.

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Added on April 19, 2010, 1:56 amif its COSC rated they should be at the time b4 the movement is cased!
after that no guarantee.
after servicing thru AD and still so bad, can get them do again so long the guarantee in the warranty manual stated so in black and white. without that, all claims are empty.

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Added on April 19, 2010, 2:03 amsmall 37mm or smaller.. thats not easy to find if its a men's watch.
< RM 2K inhouse.. swiss not possible.
China, Russian, Japanese is possible.

simple.. Seiko Spirit fits the bill perfectly, its right on 37mm.
http://www.seiyajapan.com/product/S-SCVS01...15-SCVS013.html

Seagull classic
http://www.usseagull.com/categories.asp?cid=1

russian try Vostok, buran etc.. not sure if U can find 37mm cause ppl there not small size
http://www.smirs.com/

This post has been edited by patryn33: Apr 19 2010, 02:18 AM

1. retails at ~RM10.5K
2. retails at ~ RM11K
3. retails at ~ RM18K

tag typically give ~25% off. U are looking to spend closer to 8K on item 1 and 2.

alot of ppl selling Balls these days..
saw one one http://visiotime.com.sg/index.php?page=ProductDetail&id=3655
selling for SG$1700


Boltstorm on forums.hardwarezone.com.sg also selling a similar Ball (bought in 2007) only thing is condition not as good as VISIOTIME.

looks like this? however this cost ~US$580
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=226799

no idea how much it may cost but it may start at US$200
http://www.longislandwatch.com/Orient/Orie...CFQ8eDQodZ1JVJg

if U got a bit to save, these prices are b4 this yr increase if i am not wrong.
it may push your budget above 8K.

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Added on April 21, 2010, 9:13 amorder from Singapore! US$180
http://www.skywatches.com.sg/watches/produ...21cbc2e8f4fbb4d

This post has been edited by patryn33: Apr 21 2010, 09:13 AM

they do.. omega price increase by a good 9% this yr. Tag may do the same 9-10%.. with that it may hit hit 10K soon.
anyway U do know resale value for Tag isn't good.

eg:
Tag Heuer / Grand Carrera GMT Calibre 8 per-own warranty by Tag until Nov 2011
onwer paid SGD$4860 (new b4 discount SGD$6100), pre-own price SGD$2850.
http://www.jwwatch.com/showpro_details.asp?id=76&cat=210

This post has been edited by patryn33: Apr 21 2010, 09:48 AM

these discount are controlled by Tag Heuer, if AD are discover giving more discount than allowed. they removed, cannot carry their watches anymore.
thus many AD are very reluctant giving discounts.
sales person wanna make commission and may offer U 20%, U can huggle but usually it only hit their max allowed discount (too bad sales person only can make min commission).

if U wanna sell your new watch after few months.. U got to know brands like Tag value depreciate alot.

U should watch out for LVMH friends and Family sale. Not sure when is this yr.. last yr
http://trailsshoppers.blogspot.com/2009/04...ery-family.html
This post has been edited by patryn33: Apr 21 2010, 10:12 AM

never bought watches from them. there are reviews on skywatches.com.sg
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=12645
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=298968