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post Jan 18 2010, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(nando @ Jan 18 2010, 04:26 PM)
http://www.passions.com.sg/v2/watch/omega-...nometer-steel-1

anyone can comment if this pricing is good? anyone deals with Passions before? the web state that they do give 3% discount if pay by cash.  Can the price advertised on the web be negotiated?
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Price seems ok for a pre-owned PO. Went to their Bangsar Village outlet before but no deal. Perhaps you should pay them a visit there.
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post Jan 18 2010, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(Daymon @ Jan 18 2010, 04:17 PM)
hey guys, can someone recommend me any swiss made one below rm1k?
prefer leather strap one...thx in advance!
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swiss made and mechanical? choices very limited, what to do I am a mechanical guy..
FYI: raw 6497 movement cost over US$100. Skeleton version 6497 usually cost over US$240. swiss quartz usually US$10-60.

- Choisi (online order only all swiss made) maybe the best deal since this brand is clearing stock, focusing on producing movement.
http://www.ocean7watchco.com/cs1/index.php...&category_id=17
- Hamilton lowest end if U can find (most likely manual winding)
http://www.overstock.com/Jewelry-Watches/H...ci_sku=12349171
- Tissot (if U can get extremely good discount thru AD),
===> models to look at are PRS516, PRC200
- swiss army (only thru gray market but its hard these days)
- Bernhardt watch (swiss movement, US made)
http://www.bernhardtwatch.com/officerswatch.html
- Ollech & Wajs, US brand swiss made
http://gnomonwatches.com/Ollech&Wajs.htm
-Aristo, geramn watch with swiss movement
http://gnomonwatches.com/AristoHP7.html

if U are looking for quartz the selection is a little wider.
- Zodiac
- Certina
- Tissot

QUOTE(nando @ Jan 18 2010, 04:26 PM)
http://www.passions.com.sg/v2/watch/omega-...nometer-steel-1

anyone can comment if this pricing is good? anyone deals with Passions before? the web state that they do give 3% discount if pay by cash.  Can the price advertised on the web be negotiated?
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I have bought from them. they cannot negotiate price. A proud bunch of ppl.
Passions pricing is a little higher than other place, that is IF u can find a similar product. most often, u aren't going to find it.
they do offer 1 yr warranty on the stuff they sell unlike other store, maybe thats why the higher prices.
most places selling pre-own only give 3mth warranty.


Added on January 19, 2010, 8:36 am
QUOTE(khopl @ Jan 18 2010, 10:30 AM)

Added on January 18, 2010, 12:02 pmHey, anyone here familiar with the watch brand called Steinhart? Is it reliable...a good watch? Does anyone know where to get one in Malaysia?? Or better still in Penang??
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U can order from them directly at http://www.steinhartwatches.de/ or shop in Singapore from http://gnomonwatches.com/Steinhart.html
I have issue shopping with Germany is U got to pay the VAT. at about 19%!
U get the same design and if I am not wrong same swiss supplier at http://www.debaufre.com/ good thing is don't have to pay USA tax.

using ETA 2824 or Unitas 6487 movement they are reliable work horse movement. WUS should have tons of reviews on them.
saw a pre own on WUS for US$299
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=348894
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post Jan 19 2010, 11:32 AM

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U can order from them directly at http://www.steinhartwatches.de/ or shop in Singapore from http://gnomonwatches.com/Steinhart.html
I have issue shopping with Germany is U got to pay the VAT. at about 19%!
U get the same design and if I am not wrong same swiss supplier at http://www.debaufre.com/ good thing is don't have to pay USA tax.

using ETA 2824 or Unitas 6487 movement they are reliable work horse movement. WUS should have tons of reviews on them.
saw a pre own on WUS for US$299
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=348894
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Thanks alot patryn33!
by the way, is it ok to purchase a watch online? There are so many nice watches i saw online that I really like....but i have never bought one online before...so I'm a little worried if it'll get lost in the mail...or if there is any kind of tax imposed?
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QUOTE(khopl @ Jan 19 2010, 11:32 AM)
by the way, is it ok to purchase a watch online? There are so many nice watches i saw online that I really like....but i have never bought one online before...so I'm a little worried if it'll get lost in the mail...or if there is any kind of tax imposed?
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well, I have to say I have a fair amount of watches online. of course u got to know which online dealer to deal with to be safe.
besides My aging Tag heuer and my spouse Oris, the rest of my watches I got them online.
when U buy expensive watches do make sure seller insure them or get them to ship thru UPS/Fedex.
iirc UPS/Fedex auto insured the item so long they are declared at the amount U bought them.
so if they are lost, U can claim from UPS/Fedex the full amount.

as for tax, U maybe subjected to Import duty 1-5%. I don't know as currently I don't resided in Malaysia.
found ppl talking about it, they may shed some light on that matter
http://forums.ebay.com.my/thread.jspa?threadID=500001197

ck77 getting his Pam homage online thru Getat, u can ask him his experiences
they do ship from china/russia.
http://www.siswatch727.com/index.do


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post Jan 19 2010, 04:00 PM

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As nice as it looks, do consider the weight of these watches. I've heard of people who put them back on sale after discovering that its too heavy for them to wear daily @ long hours...

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QUOTE(nando @ Jan 19 2010, 04:00 PM)
As nice as it looks, do consider the weight of these watches.  I've heard of people who put them back on sale after discovering that its too heavy for them to wear daily @ long hours...
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isn't always the problem with big watches? esp those big diver watch.
the above watch is 4.2oz or 112gm.
Graham watches are all above 120gm
some bell and ross weight > 150gm. eg Bell & Ross Space 2 weight 170gm.

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post Jan 19 2010, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Jan 19 2010, 09:38 PM)
isn't always the problem with big watches? esp those big diver watch.
the above watch is 4.2oz or 112gm.
Graham watches are all above 120gm
some bell and ross weight > 150gm. eg Bell & Ross Space 2 weight 170gm.
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what i meant was sometimes people see photos and the time piece looks macho/big...and by time they buy and start wearing it, they cant get used to it...
it also take some adjustment wearing big diameters if you're not used to it.. biggrin.gif

BTW, you're not based in Malaysia mate?

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QUOTE(nando @ Jan 19 2010, 10:27 PM)
what i meant was sometimes people see photos and the time piece looks macho/big...and by time they buy and start wearing it, they cant get used to it...
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Oops... ic..
anyway watch weighing ~120g is quite normal... rolex Explorer II also that heavy.

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Hey how can I remove scratches from my Tissot watch. It's stainless steal. Is there anywhere in Malaysia to send it for polishing and where can I get the Cape Cod Polish which I heard is good for removing scratches?

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Jan 18 2010, 10:03 PM)
swiss made and mechanical? choices very limited, what to do I am a mechanical guy..
FYI: raw 6497 movement cost over US$100. Skeleton version 6497 usually cost over US$240. swiss quartz usually US$10-60.

- Choisi (online order only all swiss made) maybe the best deal since this brand is clearing stock, focusing on producing movement.
http://www.ocean7watchco.com/cs1/index.php...&category_id=17
- Hamilton lowest end if U can find (most likely manual winding)
http://www.overstock.com/Jewelry-Watches/H...ci_sku=12349171
- Tissot (if U can get extremely good discount thru AD),
===> models to look at are PRS516, PRC200
- swiss army (only thru gray market but its hard these days)
- Bernhardt watch (swiss movement, US made)
http://www.bernhardtwatch.com/officerswatch.html
- Ollech & Wajs, US brand swiss made
http://gnomonwatches.com/Ollech&Wajs.htm
-Aristo, geramn watch with swiss movement
http://gnomonwatches.com/AristoHP7.html

if U are looking for quartz the selection is a little wider.
- Zodiac
- Certina
- Tissot
thank you so much for the brands & the links.
i'm not good in watches, will google out mechanical,movement & quartz huh.gif
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QUOTE(Daymon @ Jan 20 2010, 09:01 AM)
thank you so much for the brands & the links.
i'm not good in watches, will google out mechanical,movement & quartz huh.gif
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another brand to look at sandoz singapore
http://www.pmwf.com/Watches/WATCHSALES/San...eSalesTable.htm

good videos to watch if u dislike reading
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJdofFLjINE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA7SXKB7LaA

timezone do offer good info, alot of reading
http://www.timezone.com/library/wwatchfaq/...668591017665598
http://www.timezone.com/library/archives/a...703148375478424

FYI: mechanical make up about 20-30% of the sales in volume, but brings in 70-80% of the revenue.
quartz ~70-80% of the sales in volume, but brings in much lesser in revenue.

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sorry, what is AD means?


Added on January 20, 2010, 12:11 pmkinda like this one

TISSOT PRC200 T17.1.526.52
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QUOTE(Daymon @ Jan 20 2010, 12:05 PM)
sorry, what is AD means?
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QUOTE(Daymon @ Jan 20 2010, 12:05 PM)
sorry, what is AD means?


Added on January 20, 2010, 12:11 pmkinda like this one

TISSOT PRC200 T17.1.526.52
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finally u review what u like. its hard to give suggestion without any idea of what one is looking for.

Ad = authorize dealer (these shops discount are controlled strictly by watch brands, if they are found out to give U more than allowed watch brands can take away their dealership and these shops can no longer get the watches direct from the manufacturer.)

can see a trend here... young men all love their chrono and sub dials!

that model is a quartz. retails US$425 (I think), getting thru AD discount maybe 25%.
if U shop on sites like amazon they are not AD.
http://www.amazon.com/Tissot-PRC200-Mens-W...2/dp/B000KKO894

guess U are going for a quartz chrono under $1K budget.

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guys, I want to buy a pair of watches.. what is the cheapest swiss made watch?

this one is good ar? GC watch.
http://www1.macys.com/catalog/product/inde...ategoryID=29211


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Anyone heard of Cyma here? Any stories behind it?

I think its a pretty decent watch.

Currently endorse by Ryan Giggs tongue.gif

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QUOTE(nando @ Jan 19 2010, 04:00 PM)
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As nice as it looks, do consider the weight of these watches.  I've heard of people who put them back on sale after discovering that its too heavy for them to wear daily @ long hours...
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Nice watch !!!


Added on January 20, 2010, 5:04 pm
QUOTE(xphossis @ Jan 20 2010, 04:17 PM)
Anyone heard of Cyma here? Any stories behind it?

I think its a pretty decent watch.

Currently endorse by Paul Scholes tongue.gif
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Izzit ?? never heard be4 .. ?
i knw Giggs & M.Owen only ...


Added on January 20, 2010, 5:05 pm
QUOTE(FeeD @ Dec 12 2008, 11:37 PM)
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Anyone's using swiss army brand?  unsure.gif
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i heard before, but never try before... izzit expensive ??

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Jan 20 2010, 12:59 PM)
finally u review what u like. its hard to give suggestion without any idea of what one is looking for.

Ad = authorize dealer (these shops discount are controlled strictly by watch brands, if they are found out to give U more than allowed watch brands can take away their dealership and these shops can no longer get the watches direct from the manufacturer.)

can see a trend here... young men all love their chrono and sub dials!

that model is a quartz. retails US$425 (I think), getting thru AD discount maybe 25%.
if U shop on sites like amazon they are not AD.
http://www.amazon.com/Tissot-PRC200-Mens-W...2/dp/B000KKO894

guess U are going for a quartz chrono under $1K budget.
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hey, bro. but any brands other than Tissot have the similar design?
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QUOTE(opjust @ Jan 20 2010, 02:59 PM)
guys, I want to buy a pair of watches.. what is the cheapest swiss made watch?

this one is good ar? GC watch.
http://www1.macys.com/catalog/product/inde...ategoryID=29211
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I already gave Daymon a list of cheapest swiss made mechanical watches. look at the prev post.

swiss made quartz watch selection is just too wide. the Guess u had there is swiss made.
cheapest swiss made quartz.. no idea.. maybe swatch?? didn't much much research on that. i am the mechanical guy


Added on January 20, 2010, 9:41 pm
QUOTE(xphossis @ Jan 20 2010, 04:17 PM)
Anyone heard of Cyma here? Any stories behind it?

I think its a pretty decent watch.

Currently endorse by Paul Scholes tongue.gif
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no stories, just history.

with regards to Paul Scholes, its a 1yr contract and Cyma paid him US$300K.

http://www.sportspromedia.com/deals/_a/man...ucrative_boost/
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Ryan Giggs, the most decorated player in the Premier League, has signed a lucrative endorsement deal with Swiss luxury watch brand CYMA.

Giggs, who has played for Manchester United for his whole professional career and won a string of honours - including 11 Premier League titles, two Uefa Champions League medals, four FA Cups and the Fifa Club World Cup - was named PFA Player of the Year last season at the age of 35. He will endorse CYMA watches across its key Asian markets into 2010. The deal covers the territories of Greater China, Malaysia, Singapore and Thailand - four areas in which United have millions of fans - and is believed to be worth around US$300,000 to the player.

Giggs has scored seven goals so far in the current Premier League season as well as a goal against German Champion Wolfsburg in the Uefa Champions League and has recently been short-listed for the European Player of the Year Award.
Ferguson identifies biggest threats to 'Big Four' Champions League cartel
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"Ryan Giggs provides a perfect match for CYMA Watches. With his role model attitude towards loyalty, fair play and discipline as well as excellent match play he showcases CYMA's brand values built upon a passion for impeccable craftsmanship and dedication to Swiss watchmaking tradition," said James Law, general manager of City Chain Company Ltd. "It is amazing to see that at the age of 35 Giggs is amongst the best BPL (Barclays Premier League) players."

James White, of the Total Sports Asia agency which arranged the deal, added:  "We are proud to work with the best in the market – with CYMA, one of the leading manufacturers of luxury watches as well as Ryan Giggs, one of the best midfielders English league football has seen to date. This deal shows that TSA's relationships and knowledge of the market can be integral to brands across Asia."



Added on January 20, 2010, 10:00 pm
QUOTE(Daymon @ Jan 20 2010, 06:18 PM)
hey, bro. but any brands other than Tissot have the similar design?
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lots..
eg
- wenger
http://www.watchwear.com/wenger/
- swiss army
- Zodiac
- Mondaine
http://www.discountwatchstore.com/Mondaine...64SBB_p_82.html
- ESQ
http://www.thewatchery.com/ESQ_by_Movado/Watch/07301288
-Golana
http://www.thewatchery.com/Golana_Swiss/Watch/AE200-3
- christopher ward
http://www.christopherward-usa.com/men/sport/c7/c7swk.html

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anyone knows the price for the below Longines watches?

http://www.longines.com/watches/longines-c...t/L3.660.4.76.6

and

http://www.longines.com/watches/longines-h...t/L3.647.4.16.6


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