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Financial The Zest at Puchong Kinrara, Pls update the latest news ^_^

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post Jun 23 2009, 10:18 PM

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kimhoong, yes ocbc has this quota per month thing. They will be renewed beginning of every month. They won't reject you straight off, but you'll get either not so attractive interest rate or lower loan margin. You can try RHB (which is also the bridging financier for zest) or UOB.

For RHB, just be aware of the additional pre-payment (on top of your monthly installment) which is in blocks of 1k, if you have the extra cash to dump in. For UOB, choose the right loan package (some will not allow your pre-payment to cover more than 50% of the principle i think).

Anyhow, the lock down period is generally 5 years and by then you may be itching to change to another more attractive mortgage loan which you can negotiate again.


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post Jun 25 2009, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Jun 25 2009, 01:03 PM)
Thanks for your clarification. It makes sense too for the 1k block to minimize the overhead.
I have just called to double confirm with RHB banker.

The 5 years lock-in period starts from FINAL drawdown.

I even asked if that means the 5 years lock-in period starts after the completion of the project. He said yes shocking.gif

Seriously, something is not right hmm.gif

It will be good to have a RHB representative to clear the cloud.

FYI, the banker in contact is located at Damansara Utama (Regional Sales Centre)
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Hmm, did you call up the contact i've given to you via PM? My lockdown period starts from the first drawdown.
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post Jun 30 2009, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(AudiA6 @ Jun 30 2009, 10:29 AM)
Welcome abroad notworthy.gif

U have just made a briliant decision.


Added on June 30, 2009, 10:35 am
Banana kor, What is TS stand for and where is it located?  rclxub.gif
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Sentral Titiwangsa, KL. ...another hot cake with investor wolf pack surrounding it.
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post Jun 30 2009, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(babana @ Jun 30 2009, 05:56 PM)
haha, not sure if he's the audi frm the other forum but i'm giving him the benefit of doubt rolleyes.gif
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hmm..isn't that AudiA4? not AudiA6?
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post Jul 1 2009, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(koopa @ Jul 1 2009, 12:51 AM)
I went to the sales office, and i didnt like it. For some reason its not appealing to me. Location should be okay because its beside Tesco and stuff. Maybe because apartments in puchong wont appriciate that much
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Well, look at it from a different angle.

Kinrara was slow before because of vast undeveloped land around it. Plots of empty land could mean upbringing of new facilities and amenities once developed (not to mention competitions too)
Moreover, the price of zest seems fair enough for room to grow and investment worth. Tesco^H^H^H^H^H Giant and future LRT facility nearby also spell an upbeat to this area. Now that is room for growth.

Lets compare it against an area that is already established, eg. Mt Kiara with newer launches already banking on huge psft price. It may not catch a wider range of buyer nor will it grow too much more. Stare at this pic of Mt.Kiara and you'll know what i mean by saturated.

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MONT'KIARA from Batu Cave by Coomer Family World Adventures
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post Jul 1 2009, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Jul 1 2009, 11:29 AM)
Still... the DBKL flats are eyesores to me.

According to a friend who is staying in Paragon Heights, these flats have been completed some time ago but there is no sign that someone is moving in yet.
As for my progress, I have signed the S&P. Now waiting for the developer & lawyer to finalize the documentation before I apply for EPF.

On the loan part, I am a bit upset. Its either my profile is not good enough or the business is too good, I do not receive many replies from most of my applications. sad.gif FYI, I have applied for RHB, PBB, OCBC and UOB - only one has replied with positive result while others like not committed.
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It is the beginning of the month again. Some of these banks with quota system will have it reset at the beginning of the month. I know OCBC does.
You can get your mortgage person to resubmit again and see the result. DOn't take too long though (keep chasing them). Good luck...
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post Jul 1 2009, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Jul 1 2009, 04:08 PM)
Thanks for the tips on housing loan.

I really don't know how to describe it. I always think that as a potential customer, I should be the side to get attention and assistance. These bankers are earning a great deal of commission but yet, not committed enough (at least to me).

Maybe I have wrong impression on this and should look at it from another angle.

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Actually I'm okay with the DBKL flats (I didn't mention "low cost"). Maybe I should use another word to describe them.

I just don't like them because
1) They are blocking my balcony view sad.gif
2) There are too many of them (high density issue -> traffic issue)
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Well, to be fair they exist there first compared to zest. So, instead of you disputing your view being blocked by them, i guess you should be getting a different unit instead if you can't live it with.
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post Jul 3 2009, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(stretch @ Jul 2 2009, 08:47 PM)
yup.. my bad. i guess some of the stuff their complaining about are management related... hopefully our soon to be management won't do the same mistake. and i agree, those foreigners do make bad neighbours. haha..  but the 1st thing the SA told me when i put my money in was that they will control the renting of the place... i wonder to what extend.... anyway.. is it required by MPSJ for them to give us a dryer.. ? pls...make it be true.
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Even if they do give a dryer, i won't put much hope on it. It may be a smaller unit 3kg or similar cheapskate dryer which may not be a condenser based dryer, energy sucker, warming the whole place up.

I wonder how will the developer 'control the renting of the place'. It wasn't mentioned in the deed of mutual agreement.
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post Jul 3 2009, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Jul 3 2009, 09:57 AM)
Sorry for bringing up negative thoughts again, I just couldn't help it.

1) Investors are looking for $$$. As long as they are getting what they want, why bother complying with us? I do agree that there are considerate investors but there are desperate investors as well.

2) There are 720 residential units. It is high density to me. It is not easy to control or to get cooperation from all/majority

3) Because of 2), I am worried if our committee is not strong enough to give pressure to the management.
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Folks who are renting out the place are often careful on who to rent to. The last they need is to have heavy maintenance on the place, or broken furnitures. A long term tenant with good paying history and taking care of the place is ideal (but not easy to come by). No investors would like to bring the value of the place down (unless some are really desperate for tenants)

Heavy deposit may be a way to remind the tenant that they are paying for broken things. So the target group who can pay a bigger deposit may also be a more sensible tenant.

A smart investors will also befriend with the unit neighbors so they can report of any hanky panky activities in the unit.
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post Jul 3 2009, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(AudiA6 @ Jul 3 2009, 02:29 PM)
A large number of the Zest owners are "visitors" to this forum only.

I am sure they are observed from behind.  cool2.gif

Therefore "THEY WILL REMEMBER WHAT U DID THIS SUMMER"    sweat.gif
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1) Last summer, a large number of Zest Owners visiting here, remembered to observe my behind.

2) A large number of Zest Owners visiting here, are observing my behind, and remember how it looked like during last summer


... hmmm
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post Jul 8 2009, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(AudiA6 @ Jul 8 2009, 10:59 AM)
A yield of 8% is excellent = RM 250,000 x 8%
                                    = RM 20,000 p.a / RM 1,667 monthly rental

Capital appreciation of 30% is not bad = RM 250,000 x 1.30
                                                        = RM 325,000

It is a pleasure to see our property appreciate days-after-days.  flex.gif
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Actually i think 8% is quite optimistic. 1.6k rental may not be easy to reach unless you are talking about a high and fully furnished unit. Lets see in 3 years time. There would be more competition around among the many zest units with supply more than demand.

The facility may degrade faster if not taken care by the management properly. We are talking about a much higher density of ppl using the same facility (lift, car park, pool..etc) compared to other development.

Capital appreciation however depends on how well Zest is maintained, its tenant profile and the surrounding developments. Alam sutera and G&G housing around it may do good.
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post Jul 10 2009, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(stanbank2602 @ Jul 10 2009, 03:23 PM)
Since early 2000, there is a proposal to build a "Waste Transfer Center" near this area. Anyone aware about this ? Is this project on or cancelled ? If on, then it will has an environmental impact on Zest living standard.
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Its already closed. Refer to
http://forum.bandarkinrara.com/index.php?topic=89.0
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post Jul 13 2009, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(simple.ology @ Jul 13 2009, 05:26 PM)
you don't give one of the gangster staying in one of the unit among us 1 meh....
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I've heard incidents that the management of some other condo itself is aligned with the gangsters.
They will only permit renovation by their own "contractors" giving lots of reasons and not allowing external ones.
External contractors will be harassed and not allowed in.
Obviously the price will not be fair and quality is questionable.
Certainly hope that this will not happen.
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post Jul 21 2009, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Jul 21 2009, 03:50 PM)
Issue:

I am withdrawing EPF for 10% downpayment and am waiting for EPF approval.

I want to pay this 10% downpayment according to the 12-month interest-free installment via credit card.

My SA told me that I am not eligible for this "package".

I asked him for the "requirements". He told me that those who opt for EPF withdrawal will not be getting this "package".

Share your opinion
What if...

I want this package so badly that I forfeit/reject/spoil/cancel my EPF withdrawal application? My SA told me I CANNOT do that! sweat.gif
I kept asking for the "requirements" validity and he then told me that it's his boss' decision on this.
My question: Does my EPF application has anything to do with it? I always think that to take EPF or not IS MY PERSONAL decision and the developer should not question about it as long as I can afford the 10% downpayment (follows by 90% bank loan).
Kindly enlighten me notworthy.gif
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I certainly do not agree with the SA that you cannot apply for this 'package'. Lots of people applied for it and got it.
The only reason why i think they do not allow this is because
1) You may take about 3 weeks to get the credit card (presume maybank), yes they are slow.
2) Developer can't wait for you with 3 weeks for you to pay the downpayment.

I believe you are already quite late for your downpayment, correct?

Other than that, it is a very lousy excuse that SA do not allow you with this 'package'. They've openly promoted this last time and it is not fair for them to make it selective for some person only. Whack them kau kau with it.
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post Jul 21 2009, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Jul 21 2009, 04:45 PM)
Yes, this is my first EPF withdrawal.

I was asked whether I would take EPF withdrawal for the 10% downpayment and I said "yes" (cos I did not know much about the process back then sweat.gif )

Anyway..
Is it justified to state that the package "only" eligible for those who is NOT withdrawing from EPF?

(one again, the above question is also related back to "Whether it is the concern of the developer to know how/where we get the 10% to pay them?" -or- it is the buyers' right and has nothing to do with the developer?)

Regarding the documents etc... ONLY THREE important documents are required for EPF withdrawal application:
1) S&P
2) Bank Loan Letter of Offer (signed)
3) IC

Personally, I believe the above 3 documents are my right to possess regardless if I am withdrawing EPF or not.
again.... I am not 100% sure what I mentioned above is right. Kindly enlighten me notworthy.gif
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it shouldn't be developer's business to know how you are financing the downpayment if it is via your uncle, aunty, EPF, Ah Long, stolen cash..etc. Ask them to show you the fineprints that if you are using EPF, you can't use installment payment. If they fail to do so, checkmate.
You can go back to them and say "...oh, i just remember, i've already withdrew my EPF for another of my property". Case close.
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post Jul 22 2009, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Jul 22 2009, 10:08 AM)
Didn't know the tricks back then sad.gif
Yes, by right it should so but unfortunately, the SA told that I am not "eligible" for EPP 12 months payment because I withdraw EPF for the 10% downpayment - which is said to be the requirement for the package/scheme.
I'm going over to the office this Sunday to talk about this with the boss since my SA could not help me much (as he said this is decided by his boss). Meanwhile, I'll see if I could snap some photos of the construction site to share.
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It doesn't make sense for the developer to press this against you. If you want to withdraw from EPF for your housing, you'll need

1) Facilities Agreement (complete bank loan doc once all the loan stuff are done) - which you'll not have right now
2) S&P doc - which you'll not have right now too

Both of these important docs to get your EPF money out for your housing isn't ready yet. Complete S&P alone (signed by the developer) isn't ready for a start, so how is the developer expect you to pay 10% via your EPF when you can't get them ? This is chicken and egg situation and the developer very well know what is the requirement to get the EPF $ out. Go to EPF website , print the doc requirement and throw it at the developer.
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post Aug 4 2009, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(JunJin @ Aug 4 2009, 09:42 PM)
Haha..this is funny..it seems like nowadays the banks are doing well till they don't need customer anymore...hehehe
In this case....might opt for other alternatives..for eg..ah long.. =P
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Dude, better not. The last thing we want is your Zest unit kena thrown with red paint smile.gif ...red color isn't that matching to the rest of the units.

OCBC quota may be reached, only at the end of the month. It is the beginning of the month now, you can ask your banker to try resubmitting again.

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post Aug 5 2009, 11:12 PM

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Actually i am quite puzzled how a showunit can fit into a shoplot. How is it going to depict or even give you a feel of a real unit because shoplot dimensions may not match? Do you even get a balcony to check out? Perhaps fake walls made from gypsum board obviously make the wall thinner, thus feeling of a larger unit too. shakehead.gif

I wonder which unit type they are going to cramp in there? We shall see... keeping fingers and toes crossed.
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post Aug 6 2009, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(aramis888 @ Aug 6 2009, 01:08 PM)
what feedback? where? Here?
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On the streets of KL, near SOGO la.
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post Aug 10 2009, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(waihon2k @ Aug 10 2009, 01:54 PM)
they put lot of mirrors to make it look bigger/ spacious. it does help in a way but honestly i think everything is too boxy. just look at the tv panel - so thick and squarish. TT shud spend more $$ on the interior. Still no complain though. Just my pov only. =)
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Everything you see in 3d rendered image is still not usable for reality check. If the creator were to use smaller objects from sofa, lights, chairs, tables, tv..etc, you'll get the sense of a bigger room.

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