How was the workout? How'd it feel? =)
Wallpaper's one-month High Volume Training, An Ectomorphic's Journal
Wallpaper's one-month High Volume Training, An Ectomorphic's Journal
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Dec 9 2008, 12:59 PM
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How was the workout? How'd it feel? =)
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Dec 10 2008, 10:28 PM
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QUOTE(wallpaper89 @ Dec 9 2008, 01:34 PM) at first i thought i wouldn't make it through the workout. but towards the end my muscles felt really different lol, as if i could go on for longer. maybe i'm just not pushing enough weights. i'll increase it next week based on my findings from today. Yeah! Nice to hear. I'm uploaded a pic of my training partner doing 345lbs deadlift in just 2.5 months of HVT. And he has NEVER done deadlifts before. It's at my journal. That is how strong HVT can make you. Be patient my friend and it'll come. when i got home i took off my clothes to have a shower, and i looked into the mirror and was like, "holy shit, that guy there can NOT possibly be me!" cuz my chest was really pumped up post-workout. if only it could stay that way for longer. hahaha... now its shrunk back to its usual size, looks really pathetic now. by the way, all the machines in myfitness didn't clearly state the measurement of their stacks. there's just numbers, i don't even know if its measured in pounds or kgs. come to think of it, maybe i didn't really pushed 26 or 33 kgs for the machine chest press. it could've been 26 or 33 pounds instead lol, what a bummer. by the way, i'm expecting to enjoy doing HVT. it feels more fun and natural compared to what i was doing previously. QUOTE(mofonyx @ Dec 9 2008, 11:56 PM) Heh, oats rule preworkout bro. QUOTE(JustForFun @ Dec 10 2008, 08:53 PM) It's rather impossible for a big plate of a pull down machine to hold only 1kg/plate, it must be 10kg/plate. 210kg Yeah. Damn machines. They should just have standardized poundages. But I remember seeing darklight mentioned that the pulldown machine at his gym is 210lbs for the whole stack .. so you know, it might be lbs. |
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Dec 18 2008, 05:21 PM
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Workout looks good but lol... mate, you don't need to keep calculating the total volume every workout. I never do that. As long as i know I made some form of PR's.
Seriously, if you keep calculating the total volume all the time, you're just gonna be as rigid as Madcow/Rippetoe trainees. |
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Dec 19 2008, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(wallpaper89 @ Dec 18 2008, 05:36 PM) Ahhh okay darkie, sound and solid advice there, thank you! Now I have a reason to ditch the calculator Time and consistency. There's nothing else i can say. =) Don't expect extreme results in just a few weeks. Are you deadlifting too? Every alternate week i deadlift on back day, the do GVT for leg presses on leg day the next day. Add in some for variety. If you need a deadlifting form video, let me know.i have difficulty walking now... i reckon my legs will be a complete sore by tomorrow morning. And if it doesn't recover in time for Sunday this week, I will drop swimming altogether and go for Option 3. I don't usually do leg work actually, this is my first time in quite a while What made me gain weight was probably because I wasn't eating well enough last time, and also because I didn't exercise much, aside from the occassional futsal game. So the moment I picked up those dumbbells, my weight climbed rapidly. Sadly the weight gain isn't showing enough in my physical appearance. Some of my friends have noted that I don't look as skinny as I did before, but personally, I think there's not much Wow! factor in my changes - I look practically the same, and still considerably skinny, or normal at best. I saw your journal and your body looks much better shaped than mine, so I'm sure you'll end up somewhere satisfactory. Have fun bulking This post has been edited by darklight79: Dec 19 2008, 10:21 AM |
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Dec 19 2008, 01:44 PM
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The last version was choppy due to bad internet connection on my side. I've updated it, had my form checked out and it's fine:-
Yeah, the overhand grip is better. Using a mixed grip results in torque imbalances later on. Invest in a good pair of wrist straps. This post has been edited by darklight79: Dec 19 2008, 01:46 PM |
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Dec 21 2008, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE(wallpaper89 @ Dec 19 2008, 02:39 PM) Good video. Much better quality. Damn, that looks sooo heavy! Personally I wouldn't dare to try 1 rep deadlifts yet. Yeah, I hated the quality of the first one. The internet connection that day was fukked. Plus youtube had technical problems too. QUOTE(wallpaper89 @ Dec 19 2008, 02:39 PM) How much is a pair of wrist straps and where can I get them? Are they necessary for deadlifting heavier weights? I hope they're not too costly... Of course straps are necessary. Your goals are bodybuilding oriented, not powerlifting. Straps are tools as a means to an end. Spending time just to develop grip strength is a huge waste of time imo. QUOTE(wallpaper89 @ Dec 19 2008, 02:39 PM) Btw, since my middle chest is so pathetic, I plan to add in an extra exercise for next week after cable crossovers. I don't know what it's called, but you do it lying flat on a bench, hold one dumbbell with both hands over the center of the chest, let the weight go over and behind your head and then pull it back to starting position. Dumbell pullovers? Alternate that with cable crossovers every 2 weeks then. Don't add too many exercises. Anyone knows what this exercise is called, and if its good for building the middle chest or not? Thank you! QUOTE(jamis @ Dec 19 2008, 03:05 PM) Not yet. Wait till I hit 600lbs. =) I'll get there with HVT style, with non of those powerlifting with bands and chains etc. Lol. |
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Dec 22 2008, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE(noobcake @ Dec 22 2008, 04:13 PM) hey man, i don't think that's underperforming at all. you've managed to up the weights a bit from your previous workout - thats great in itself. i think darklight has said that HVT is instinctive, going with the feel. Well said brotha! HVT rocks.sometimes i too feel somewhat weak, tired etc on a particular day - no sweat, all of us have that one day off. just come back the following hitting hard and strong. also feel free to keep increasing the weights you do, even though if it means cutting down a two or three reps. you'll be able to build upon that the next time you do a chest workout. what i normally do is alternate machine chest press with incline dumbell bench presses every other week as it helps to build the upper part of your chest as well as balance. pushups are fine, in fact at the end of each chest workout i usually do one or two sets until failure to really exhaust the muscle. anyhow, keep us updated. |
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Dec 30 2008, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE(wallpaper89 @ Dec 30 2008, 11:37 AM) I'm back from my vacation! Not a very eventful one, but a relaxing trip, that was. I swam on Sunday despite my leg still being sore from the workout. And it still is now T.T There's nothing to worry about. Sometimes you feel like crap, just reduce the weight and grind out more reps. Go with the flow.Today is my chest day and frankly I am quite disappointed that there wasn't very much improvement from last week. In fact there is a decline in performance. This is especially obvious for the machine chest press - I couldn't seem to do what I could normally (easily) do, I wonder why? Volume for the incline and flat bench press has noticeably dropped as well but what the heck, I'm still glad that there is a chest day and I managed to kill my chest today. When I was in Taiping btw, I had my weight measured on those 20 cent per go weight scale. The digital meter read 69.4kg. Fcuking 69.4kg, ONLY!! I would've expected to hit 71 kg or at the very least, 70 kg, but to still be stuck in the 69's was a huge letdown. Oh well, I'll measure it again at the end of this week. Probably the standard of the scales differ -- the scale from my gym might show a different result from which weight progress can be better judged. For now, I'll be off to Mid Valley. Tuesday - Chest Day (30 December 2008) Smith Machine Flat Bench Press Warm Up 20 lbs x 10 40 lbs x 10 Workout 90 lbs x 12 100 lbs x 11 100 lbs x 9 90 lbs x 8 100 lbs x 5 Smith Machine Incline Bench Press 60 lbs x 10 65 lbs x 10 65 lbs x 9 55 lbs x 9 Machine Chest Press 33 kg x 11 33 kg x 11 40 kg x 8 26 kg x 13 Cable Crossover (Weight stated = total weight) 10 kg x 16 10 kg x 16 10 kg x 16 10 kg x 16 Dumbbell Pullovers 10 kg x 25 10 kg x 20 Cable Crossover (Done as an extra) 10 kg x 15 -End of Workout- Total Workout Time: 65 minutes Average rest time in between sets: 90 secs Diet Preworkout: 4 eggs, 2 Bananas (22g protein, 40g carbs) Postworkout: 2 scoops weight gainer + 350ml Dutch Lady milk (35g protein, 60g carbs) Estimated meals for today: Lunch: Anything edible in Mid Valley (20g protein) Tea-time: Fruits (anything in the fridge will do) Dinner: Rice + dishes (20g protein) Supper: 300ml milk + Whey protein (35g protein) Total estimated protein intake: 132g |
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Dec 30 2008, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(JustForFun @ Dec 30 2008, 05:53 PM) If you're already hitting hard enough which it seems to me that you did and you didn't get good growth ... It's time to check your diet :S ... Yeah. The commonest mistakes trainees do is they don't take in enough protein during a layoff.Weight ... is nothing to worry about. Maybe you have a lower body fat now but since you started with 10% ... lol. |
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Dec 31 2008, 01:32 PM
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The mirror is your best judge of progress. You're still being too obsessed with calculations.
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Jan 1 2009, 02:10 PM
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Wait, how much protein are you taking per day wallpaper89? If you're just taking 132 grams of protein a day, that's pathetic. Bump it up to around 200 grams.
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Feb 5 2009, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(wallpaper89 @ Feb 5 2009, 12:08 PM) Preworkout: 2 hard boiled eggs, 1 sachet Oats Postworkout: 250ml Milk + Whey Postpostworkout: 2 mini bananas And what's with the 2 mini bananas post post workout?? |
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Feb 5 2009, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE(wallpaper89 @ Feb 5 2009, 01:39 PM) LOL I do agree my preworkout is pathetic. But I already feel stuffed from just that lol... I can't eat much so soon after waking up from slumber. Sometimes I take 2 sachet of Oats instead of one so maybe I'll just take 2 sachets everytime from now on. I'm not sure if its any good, but 2 sachets would be better than 1 at least. Wait. What satchets? You buy the 3 in 1 crap? The premixed one? That's full of sugar and other junk! Just get the damn packet or tin of oats.Btw how much is 6-8 tablespoons of oats? I buy mine in sachets of 30g... |
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Feb 5 2009, 05:23 PM
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Lol... go and look at the contents of 3 in 1 oats. Then you'll know.
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