Hi, there. My Xbox 360 started to hang after loading the game for 3 minutes since last Thursday.
However, it became total black out with red LED signal flashing around the power button.
Can anyone tell me what's wrong with my xbox 360? What can I do to make it works again?
How much is the cost? Suggestion of the location to repair it please.

It's called Red Rings Of Death

Another Question:
Can I play XBox 360 games with Keyboard and Mouse

No.

filler 123

i think ps3 can only play with mouse and keyboard, 360 cannot..

well..u can actually by using the XCM..but the responsive is not really that good

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/xcm-bri...-360-217332.php

and to TS..ur having a rrod disease..send it for warranty purpose or u can also send for reballing

After u fix or warranty them sell them off and buy a new one Jasper unit more
trust me, it won't cure the ROD after fixing it..But it all depend on luck though..

TS, don't pack ur console just yet >>



A large percentage of Xbox 360 failures (3 red rings included as well as game hangs/freezes that result in 3 red lights) are caused by...

power brick. [which affects the GPU heat largely... but most blaim GPU... not the case ! ]

Yes. Power brick is the cause of all the problems including the GPU overheating which causes 3rod.

How to solve ?
Simply plug the power brick connector to a different outlet. Or use a voltage regulator. I 'was' in the 3 red rings list thread but turns it is NOT the case. Yes, I get those lights. But no more. I was THIS close to sending it for repairs. 6 weeks - - no way !

At first I blasted my air-conditioner. It worked. Yes. In the beginning, it struggled. Games froze. But after 30 mins... things was perfect again. I was like WTH... everytime play must wait 30 minutes to cool ?

Then I did it... moved it to a different power outlet. OMGWTFBBQ ! It worked. 7 hours straight until I decided to sleep.

BTW, the power brick MUST be well ventilated. Notice how tiny those holes on the power brick are... too limited.

And yes, Jasper will solve the issue of RROD. It will folks. (Less wattage + 45nm GPU = no more RROD ! )
See... Microsoft ARE doing something to the power brick + GPU size. This will absolutely eliminate RROD.

This post has been edited by defaultname365: Dec 10 2008, 12:43 AM

my power brick is hidden behind the tv rack since day one (january)...
and my xenon's also before that (about a year before i sell it off)

touch wood: no 3RROD.

Yes. Your power outlet has good voltage regulation. The outlet in my room IS NOT regulating voltage well... even after connecting to a Belkin surge protector which supposedly helps regulate voltage... does not work. I had to drag an extension from my sister's room... and voila !

The more well ventilated + voltage regulation = less chance of 3RROD.

I could have just cracked the RROD issue ! Maybe not... the official site also say "power brick must be well ventilated"

Edit :
OMG! Now I know why there are some who get their Xbox back after repair... some just hours later... the 3RROD appears again !
Its the freakin power brick + power outlet ! After reading forum sites after forum sites and issues after issues... its so clear to me !

This post has been edited by defaultname365: Dec 10 2008, 01:31 AM

More hint for you all though.

The power issue will indeed causing 3RRoD and you still have a way to pinpoint it's caused by a faulty internal component or power by retrieving the secondary error code. you may initiate the coder by following the guide shown below:-
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=484726

happy trying

my powerbrick is on my table and well ventilated but still 3rod bro.

In your case, you plugged it into a different power outlet, and then it worked straightaway?

If it's really the power outlet.. then it means the 360's power brick has a very low tolerance to... how shall i say it, voltage spikes or whatever the term is? btw my powerbrick was always well ventilated.

Hmm... too early to call this. Let me try on my dead 360.

My investigation has lead me from...

3RRoD -> GPU overheating -> Power brick issue -> Power outlet

So what about those with 3RRoD ?
OK, the 'change to a different power outlet' I'd say only for those that get 3RRoD first few times... preferably initial. What I'm saying is that, as soon as got 3RRoD -> change to a different power outlet immediately and ventilate the power brick. Immediately. Wait for long, and the GPU could just get toasted for real. The console will be dead, for real.

OK, I changed power outlet, but still, 3RRoD
Too bad, the console's GPU probably has overheated beyond point of reaching back to its original working condition. I daresay, if get 3RRoD the first times... changing power outlet WILL solve the issue. Worse come to worse -> Get a voltage regulator !


What about air-conditioner ?
Turns out it DOES help. Even after 3RRoD (initial ones), placing air-cond air directly pointed towards the console (left-side, vertical position) at 22'c for about 20-30 minutes works. Put the power brick at that same place as well. This is so that Power Brick + GPU = cooled down. It takes time.

So, the whole 3RRoD issue is simply power brick issue ?
No. Its irregularities of power outlet voltage supply. 'Every' home has at least an outlet that does this. Yes. You can't expect a very good voltage flow. The power brick of the Xbox 360 is sensitive. Jasper seem to have done something to it.

... what is 3RRod / hardware failure again?
1. Power outlet voltage irregularities (at home, or wherever) - - >
2. Power brick has 'small' voltage fluctuations - - >
3. GPU overheats overtime at intervals of the fluctuations (it heats up real quick, but when voltage fluctuates - - bam! The GPU goes to a temp it DOES NOT LIKE - game crash!). - - >
4. Turning off and on the console once game crash - - >
5. 3RRoD (because the console thinks the GPU is toast !) - - >
6. Keep on playing like this for maybe a week or more (turn on / turn off ) - - >
7. Permanent 3RRoD.

Yes, a brand new refurbished / repaired console after sending for repair... gets 3RRoD again !!
Guess what - - using the same power outlet. This was the one thing that baffled me. Something was odd. Yes, it is the power outlet. Same outlet used for previous 3RRoD console.

Jasper solves the issue ?
Yes. Power brick + GPU has been.... corrected. Expect an incredibly low failure rate. Very low. Using a voltage regulator + Jasper = anti-3RRoD !! .... perhaps

Who is to blame ?
Well. You know who. But it comes down to -> Power brick not being able to tolerate voltage fluctuations. From this, it goes all the way to... 3RRoD.

How the heck can I make such a claim ?
Well - - I have had history of things overheating. And I also got the 3 magical lights. So... pretty. And I knew the source of it all. The power outlet. Yet, I smartly chose to ignore it when I got my Xbox 360. I even ditched my old voltage regulator. Now using extension from another room. Will get a voltage regulator. Now... playing for half a day non-stop - - touch wood no issues !

This post has been edited by defaultname365: Dec 10 2008, 02:59 PM

RROD from power failure is not a big deal. u can check on the RROD code, then u know it's from power or not. mine also kena few times.. but just change to a different socket.. deal. it's nothing to do with the GPU, CPU overheat problem..

irregularities of power outlet voltage supply > is one of the system failure. RROD are light to indicate system failure. and of course inconsistent power supply might lead to system failure.. but it is not leading to CPU/GPU overheat problem.

RROD is just an indicator any of system failure. it doesnt mean CPU/GPU failure only.

This post has been edited by msn83235502: Dec 10 2008, 03:06 PM

Brotha... I was talking 3RRoD. I used this word more than I could have ever imagined.

all electronic devices have relatively low tolerance to power fluctuations.....

As I said, poor GPU soldering and a lot of other issues including weak digital backbone architechture such as faulty RAM lead to 3RRoD....Simply blame on bad power source is not a good idea....

You HAVE to refer it here: http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=484726

what the hell wei ? There's an easy solution to ur problem. Sell xbox and buy a PS3 or Wii. Better games, better graphics, better online play, and it's free too.

And u get to play MGS4, Gran Turismo, and err...errr...and HOME !

Please....stop your fanboy quote in xbox thread.

and I disagree with you that PS3 got better games & graphic compared to xbox360.

xbox360 got more game & best online solution. while comparable, if not better.

Wii got better graphic? please la~!

and I know you're kidding~!

This post has been edited by navigator: Dec 10 2008, 08:43 PM

jasper unit can cure the RROD? really or not?

Seems like someone sarcasm detector is broken.

Not at all. 3RRoD is a general error for xbox360. it won't run away....

But the occurance rate will be reduced "theoratically".

gnome, looks like someone doesnt understand munky's sarcasm...

aiks.....you all replied before my edit.....I got a new hidden quote there.

We need to wait n c whether casper can make us all xbox comunity happy.

I am talking about 3RRoD and not other 'DVD drive fail... etc. etc.' issues. That I probably won't want to figure out.

"Don't blame on power brick ?" Well... that may be the case. Most electronic appliances tolerates a certain level of voltage fluctuation. However, the Xbox 360's power brick does not do a great job. Thus, if the power outlet flutuates a lot and/or voltage regulator is not used - the power brick will get very hot and the voltage fluctuations will cause the GPU to overheat more than usual... resulting in the 3RROD.

It should not happen, but the 'power brick' is the concern here. Use a voltage regulator. Presto!

Err.. you might want to check the buzz that so happen (to my amazement) to occur here :
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/show_msgs.p...23998153&page=0
(Date was Nov 2005 !)

as i know that xbox360 ventilation very bad and the gpu ms used is the super hot chip ATI,so if there is some headroom for the GPU to breathe then the console will last longer,and the quality of the mobo is also an issue where it cant widthstand heat from the gpu,i know that the power supply does effect the 3rod issue also,recently i had a temporary power cut i mean the power cut was so fast where my devices x sempat nak off but the my 360 displayed 3rod,voltage regulator does help kinda pricey to buy la bro,and 1 more thing dont share with a power outlet with so many appliance attached to it.

This is one of the symptoms that happened to be 3RRoD which can be identified in secondary error code. Did you tried them out to see if the secondary code is accurate or not?????

one question M$ will always ask is "when your console 3RoL, what's the LED color on the power suppply unit?"

As I said, 3RRoD is a general error, too general to be told that the problem is on the power itself. You MUST need a secondary symptoms to further troubleshoot it and I'm notsaying your case is not true. I just want most of the ppl aware that THIS IS NOT THE ONLY CAUSE.

There're some evidence for broken soldering ball for GPU at thread founded by Tech2: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/727355

3RRoD error ca be also related to DVD drive.

I hope, you'll understand what I tried to pass on.....

This post has been edited by navigator: Dec 11 2008, 06:54 AM

ur rite bro many types of fault in 3rod display.

yeah, and some ppl did not realize it and blame on the only symptoms that they found by a hard way....

Wow, I just got a 'permanent 3RRoD' which forced me to do what most do...

Just last night I tried my luck of using the 'old power outlet' - - the one that supposedly caused my red lights. Heck, I was forced to use the old power outlet - - the extension wires from another room of my house just made things messy... and trippy. So I had no choice but to 'try' to use the old power outlet.

I plugged in, turned on.... and it worked. I played a game or two and it worked but then they started to crash. I was like "Of course." But turning it on and off just 'one last time' resulted in.... the 3RRoD - - permanent !

I wasn't too shocked. But it makes the whole "power outlet issue" a lot more real.

Pulling the extension wires and then trying my luck on the power outlet that worked, no luck. It was a permanent 3RRoD... Just days before I resolved to using that power outlet that made me play games for 7 hours straight !

A coincidence ? Just so happen it 3RRoD when I used the old power outlet ?

So, how many ppl with 3RROD actually solve their problem permenantly by switching to other power outlet?
By the way, What is Jasper Unit? How to identify it?

Let me share mine.

Mine happened to be after a 2 days outstation trip.... When I'm about to enjoy my GoW2 after a long haul, I immediately see 3RRoD. then I just promptly switch off and sleep.

The next morning, W/O really moving the console around I switchied it on again, this time looks perfectly fine and I can play another 2 hrs. Then I realized my controller is out of juice then I just plug it into the console and power off so the system will charge the controller. to my surprise immediately the console off the 3RRoD appeared and my controller won't charge. Then I just promptly pack it up for shipment.

To me it definately does not looks like power.

sometimes bad connection of the powerbrick to the console also causes 3rod issue.

Let's just say every electronic device should last years. Even a non-branded DVD player lasts years...

Bad design, from the power brick to the internal design... I heard about DVD drive failure rate on the Xbox 360 as well... and it surprised me

The Xbox community is praying and hoping Jasper is anti-RROD. It has the biggest chance -> power brick + GPU = changed since Falcon.

The whole 'power brick issue plug to another outlet' = = is one of the reasons... not THE reason. One of it.

Will Jasper solve the whole dreaded failure rate of the Xbox 360s ?
Only time will tell. But I strongly believe it will bring it to a significantly low figure.



This post has been edited by defaultname365: Dec 12 2008, 11:35 AM

What I can say is--Don't give to much hope on Jasper......

My Xbox360 is one month older than yours. I remember I bought it before 2008 CHY so that my brother from Singapore can play Ace Combat 6 during CNY. It's a normal unit, not elite.
Why Microsoft make such a lousy console that not even last for a year, Darn!

The worst decision they've made is rushed the design without extensive to meet deadlines.......

One of my game is also AC6. hahahaha~!

The hardware quality is lousy, but the game and it's juice is yummy.

MS make us buy xbox like pampers pakai buang dem u MS

c'mon, it's just a gaming console....take your time to claim....no need to buy new one.

Every electronic device should last years.

Even a cheapo product can last years, but something from a multi-billion dollar worldwide recognised company like Microsoft ?

Its too bad I have my own reasons why I bought an Elite over a PS3... even after the light of an 3RRoD.

they just made wrong decision in a very wrong timing. Any big co will did that at least once.

nvm jasper is here to save the day,xbox360 just got friendlier.

FIXed