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 Stock market V19, Chit chat in the market

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post Dec 30 2008, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Dec 30 2008, 10:22 AM)
oi oi, nobody window dress uchitec?
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only less than 90 counter is dress up. sweat.gif
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post Dec 30 2008, 11:31 AM

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walau leh, green packet, is bursting now.
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post Dec 31 2008, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Dec 31 2008, 12:57 AM)
I know I can rely on you to give good references!  notworthy.gif Thx!!!

This is what I hope.... that history would repeat itself. Take a look at the charts below (from your link):

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Note the rally starting in January for both periods (red arrow), then a fall to a new low in the middle of the year (green arrow).

That's what I'm hoping for. That a baby bull comes in Q1 and then the continuation of the bear market to a new low in Q2/Q3..... (Of course, this is not my prediction. It is the predictions made by some research houses.... wink.gif)

That's the reason I plan to sell off what I can in Q1, then wait for Q2/Q3 to enter the stock market again (this is the period that I would go for blue chips counter & REITS). What do you guys think?  hmm.gif

The other interesting to note is another drop (later on) after the new low...
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yes, u may right, but remember the period of rally may only take 1 month, but the burst is taking 3 months - 6 months times. let's said the rally is starting at the end of dec 08 and may end at end of jan 09 and follow by the busting Feb 09 - Aug 09, the market should be at the lowest at Aug - Sept 09, provided it already reach 500 - 650 marks. hmm.gif

The patient is the winner of the games. brows.gif
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post Dec 31 2008, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Dec 31 2008, 09:14 AM)
Yeah, impatience cost me a bit of paper loss.....  sad.gif

Looks like another investment experts echoing what we hope will happen : http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...52&sec=business

So which counter is the best for "gorenging" during this period of year-end window dressing and CNY rally?  hmm.gif
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yes, this is interesting article. so basically we still need to patient till sep 09. rolleyes.gif hmm.gif

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post Dec 31 2008, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(lowyat888 @ Dec 31 2008, 12:01 PM)
dont be so sure or confident, that the market will windows dress or surge during CNY or year end, it may go the other way round. maybe it will surge only 5-10 cents for blue chip or 1-2 for penny stock only, not enough to cover for brokerage also.

our market is crazy sometimes when oversea surge, our market drops but when overseas market drop we surge or still even drop further. its difficult to predict. best things is stayout at the moment and dont investment (or can say indirectly call gambling $$)

dont worry there will alot of opportunity if the market really rebound along the way to make $$ no hurry. there will be different stage of going into the market to make $$. what is your will definately be yrs or else easy come easy goes the $$ for sure.

Our country cannot depends on local funds only to boost the market, if oveaseas funds are not in dont even think the market will go up

Patients dont be a warren buffet if cannot be (buy low sell high), alot only talk but no action. How many have the $$ to buy low sell high and timing must be right and have to go thru alot of worrying each whether the market will drop or up. tension, cannot sleep properly,work etc focus is not there. how much $$ is enough tell yrself?

just my 2 cents
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ya loh, because the answer is bocor already mah, everyone also want to waiting till sept 2009, so the rally will only be very short, ur need to hold on ur stock till 2012. sweat.gif
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post Dec 31 2008, 11:38 AM

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i hv checked there shud not hv black friday in the 1st Q of 2009, but, if ur keep diversify ur stocks porfolio and at the end will die because running out of bullet, the winner is those who still got bullet to average down for certain stock only. some stock are hardly to down further (sorri, i dun mean knm) as the market value is attractive already.

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post Dec 31 2008, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(kelvin667 @ Dec 31 2008, 01:12 PM)
Well, the theory of high risk high gain always apply.
However, stock market tends to be a bit different as risk was looked in a different manner. It can be predicted, assume and anlayze differently and all these analysis require something to based at.
The fact that I think lowyat 888 predicted an artificial rise on the composite was as the big storm is still ahead. Would M'sia share market be more prosperous during global slowdown. Are we vulnerable to global slowdown and slowdown of our largest trading partner, US.

In 1997, FDI only enter M'sia after 50% recovery, why is that? It is because to reduce risk taking. Nobody know the bottom of the market, but purchasing not for profit taking before storm ahead was risky.
Share market is about analysis and investment, not gambling.
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i can tell u that it is more or less is like gambling actually. bcos it is like u buy jackpot in bjtoto. it is not like u buy BIG and SMALL, becouse u hv to know only less than 50% of the stocks will still exist after 5 to 10 years and only less than 10% of stocks is perform good.

i can name the stocks, like mkland, liqua, eden, knm, iris, mobif, fountain, ................... too many lah, and this is still not included their warant. All the traders/investors/gambles $$$ all burnt. sweat.gif

That is y ppl said Developer can change their RM1 investment to become RM5 and Public listed company can change RM1 investment to RM10.

Why wait, start to build a company and listed it at Bursa, than u can hv banglo, mercede, BMW, ....... Walao leh!

Happy New Year and Dream come true! brows.gif


my 0.00000000000000000000000000000000.............2 cent. brows.gif

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post Dec 31 2008, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(viper88 @ Dec 31 2008, 02:07 PM)
If buy stock blindly, its more or less like gamble.

I read people born in the month of Taurus next year will have very good luck.  icon_idea.gif
http://www.indastro.com/taurus-2009-horoscope.html

Check out your horoscope star for next year.
http://www.indastro.com/2009-horoscope-astrology.html

icon_rolleyes.gif Cheers, icon_rolleyes.gif
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walao, hapy new! happy new!


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post Dec 31 2008, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 31 2008, 02:29 PM)
Just telling from experience. Majority of people won't get it right or time the market right. If there are too many people said Q2-3 2009 will be the bottom, then high probably it won't happened. Either bottom already formed (800 points on KLCI, or may be sink further in a different time zone).
Whatever people hope and predict on, generally it won't materialise.

You can look back, back 2007, how many anticipated or predicted 2008 will be a bloody year with loss of more than 30-40% at least? Almost none, all we can see people predict oil price will go to USD150 or USD200, and gold price more than USD 1,000.

Now situation change, people become to predict oil price to hit USD20-30 in 2009.  laugh.gif

You look back further, how many predict KLCI will hit 1,500 when it was hovering at 800-900 during 2006? None, mostly predicted 1,100 or 1,300 was magnifcient already.

The reason why most prediction won't be materiliasing is because when everyone is predicting and hope for it. Then everyone is already prepared and moving ahead of it. Just like if fund managers forecast market will sink further in 2009. Then what they do now? Sell now! that's why we see market sink in the last few months.

Why market sink? Because people are selling. If you foresee it (market sink further) will happen on Q2-3 2009, that's mean people wait until that time to sell their stock, kinda illogical, right? It doesn't make sense to have such a prediction in the first place.

Why people sell their stocks that they bought initially at a loss? Because there are some unpredictable event happened that forcing them to sell.

If everyone is bullish about next year market, what they do now? Buy already, market already up and up. Still wait until next year only want to buy?

When most people feel good and bullish about the market future, then who is going to sell those share cheaply to you? None, you can only buy high.

So if you want to buy cheap stock, then majority people need to be bearish about the market, then you can only buy at cheap price.

So if you want to buy cheap stock, then you hope for others are making a opposite move than you.

So don't bother when the market will bottom or not. You buy a stock because the longer term future will be better and provide you good return from the stocks itself through company profit/dividend.
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this is a good artile man and can published to star liao. notworthy.gif
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post Dec 31 2008, 03:12 PM

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When ppl greedy for window dressing want to earn ang pow $$, some ppl is fear.

yawn.gif yawn.gif

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post Jan 2 2009, 09:45 AM

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rally is come back, the stock will climb back the height as it do last 2 weeks during the 1st rally start on 16th dec 08. the patent should be similar to it. hmm.gif

majority of the stock may jump back to the level during 1st rally, but depend on ur want to off load or not after 15th Jan 09. icon_idea.gif

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post Jan 2 2009, 10:00 AM

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another 110 points to move for ci. yawn.gif

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post Jan 2 2009, 11:50 AM

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something wrong, 1 week b4 i passby gpacket building in federal highway, then the stock is shotting,

last week i passby mmc building at jalan sultan ismail, then today it is also shooting. i must be very care now for the landmark. hmm.gif

but, i may try to visit menara maybank this week. brows.gif

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post Jan 2 2009, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(verbatim @ Jan 2 2009, 01:06 PM)
You should pass by a PN17 company, if that shoots  then you really have the 'charm'..  brows.gif
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my house is nearby liqua, and i pass by it every day, so dun belief me 2 much. sweat.gif
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post Jan 2 2009, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jan 2 2009, 02:05 PM)
passed 888
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next level 999
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post Jan 2 2009, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jan 2 2009, 03:08 PM)
Those in charge , should be investigated.  could be Sabotaging  our economy.

ISA could be a good tool to threaten them. hmm.gif
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yes, i support, must use ISA to detain the top management for destroy our new year mood. hmm.gif
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post Jan 2 2009, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 2 2009, 03:56 PM)
So does Genting, Maybank etc.

Plantation stocks are the one that carry on KLCI surge. But research houses told us to underweight plantation stocks.  rolleyes.gif
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dun belief them they just destroy our mood only, because they dun managed to buy and 1 ur to off load for them to buy at lower. hmm.gif
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post Jan 2 2009, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 2 2009, 04:04 PM)
OMG! Can KLSE actually hit 900 today?  blink.gif  shocking.gif

KLSE @ 895!!!  thumbup.gif
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if ci can reach 999, i m palning to buy new car. thumbup.gif
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post Jan 2 2009, 04:49 PM

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Good Ending.
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post Jan 2 2009, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(alivecmh @ Jan 2 2009, 06:10 PM)
PA gain another 10% today....  if someone bought this share months ago and hold till now, he already earn 100% above
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that is why, so market so attractive, how to off load in current condition. rclxm9.gif

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