Oh sheet..i went to their website..the lyr and gungnir..hnnngh...

Wait hold on!

You're gonna do line-out from ZxR > Precision 2 > HD800?
There's a problem here.

The headphone line-out on the ZxR (as well as the entire Z series) has high distortion and channel imbalance, something the RCA line-out does not. However at the same time the ZxR's headphone line out is the one you want to use for SBX as the algorithms for that is different to the SBX afixed to the RCA line out.

You'd want to go optical out from the ZxR (in which case you should just save RM400 and get a Z instead) to an external DAC with optical input then to Precision 2.

I got the zxr used for cheap so its fine.. I didnt know the RCA is different from the built in headphone line-out though, thanks for the heads up!
Guess it gives me a perfectly good excuse to get that DAC
Hmm whats a good one for around 1.5k?
Im currently eyeing the NFB2 from audio gd but not sure about the optical input but they do custom specs..

Eh? Serious? How about the Creative X-Fi Titanium Professional? I got it second hand but haven't had the chance to test it out yet. Rig still getting modded. I got this one:
http://www.soundblaster.com/products/Sound...Audio-PCIe.aspx

Btw bl@ze, you got the ZXR of some Sarawak seller right? That's the only ZXR I could think of being sold cheap. Hahaha. But on the DAC, get the Loki. The Gungnir is above your budget.

Haha damn you are good...you watch the garage sales like a hawk huh...yea i got it from the sarawak seller
I'm gonna do more research on the gungnir...budgets are...flexible

I honestly don't think you'd need the NFB2. I've gone through over 11 DACs of different origins over the last year and honestly, DACs are very, very difficult to pick apart.
Some DACs cater to a warmer sig, some DACs cater to the neutral and some are just cold and analytical. But the thing is, all of them sounds good. A good DAC is a good DAC, end of story.

I always felt that DACs has been overpriced for whatever reasons.

Never heard the NFB2 but I have heard the same ES9018 DAC it has on the NFB11.32 and really, I doubt the difference would be anything significant. At least not worth the extra $200.
It's like the Schiit Modi vs Bifrost, I saw no reason for the Bifrost at all as the Modi sounds 99% like the Bifrost. Not even exaggerating, but that's how it is.


That Titanium Pro doesn't have a headphone out. I've never tested it, but if it's similar to the Titanium HD, that means THX TruStudio is available equally on all channels.
Otherwise worse come to worse, just optical out to Bifrost you've been eyeing (that means no Loki for you! ).

just an update for those looking for a for gaming headset..

after i got my beyerdynamic COP... i need a second pair of headphone for travelling/mobile/office usage... since my COP is well rested at home...

so... after learning by advices, by review and own experience that audiophile headphone is the best.... i made kinda mistake for falling for gaming brand again... i bought a TurtleBeach M Seven headphone from ebay... actually eyeing for the Captain America Limited edition.. but it is hard to get it... so i settle for the M Seven... which is... the best TurtleBeach can offer.. (and great ebay/amazon review) i mean the latest (last year?) SEVEN line up.. it is the same headphone with XP,X,M Seven.. just the mixer defines it will fall into what category... and the add on mic...mine come with braided cable and a mic/pickup call button an the breakway cable..

here is what i think where i made the mistake... with the Turtlebeach M Seven
1. bloated bass.... bloated bass everywhere...
2. clamping force too hard.. not good with a big head..
3. earcup is smaller than the COP.. thinking to change to fabric earpad like the marvel limited edition..
4. kinda heavier than the COP..

now days i farm diablo 3 while listening to spotify a lot (all kind of music) ... with the TB M7... my ears hurt... from the crushing bass...

solution:
1. having another profile in my sound setting just to flatten the bass with the TB M7..
2. putting the headphone on a stand that loosen the headband..
3. sell it at garage sale...


so,

anybody is looking for a TB M7 headphone... thats the point to give a consideration..

peace..

This post has been edited by Lord_darkslide: Apr 23 2014, 10:35 PM

Well, I wanted that ZXR too. But decided to pull out. Oh well.

Hahahahaha, judging by your mining stuff your budget is of course quite flexible. But yeah like Ben said, all you need is a nice simple DAC. Loki will do fine.

There is a headphone out.
Hahahaha, its the second from left output.

Guess for Loki I have to bypass my sound card and use the USB 3.0. Sound card will be relegated to powering speakers I guess. But we will see how. Bifrost seems a bit like a cold dark place which you can never escape for my wallet now. Hahaha. I'd rather focus on getting a better amp.

This post has been edited by Sentinel92: Apr 23 2014, 10:52 PM

So.. what happened to your COP?


That headphone out is coupled with the stereo out, that means that channel has an output impedance of over 100ohms. Do you want your headphones going into that?
It doesn't have a dedicated headphone out.

My suggestion, get the Modi with optical input + a good amp. End game, for a very long time... until I poison you again with something else.

nothing happens... using the COP more than the TB... and liking it more than the TB...

COP=home headphone
TB=travelling/mobile

should have bought the ATH-M50x... haihz.....

Ditto' for the M50x. Having it now as my heapdhones on plane rides.

Well, I am planning to get a high end headset soon enough anyways. Which usually entails high impedence. But I'll keep the Schiit suggestion in mind.

Lol damn clever ah you. Haha. I'm so used to poisoning people on the WC/MKB/PC threads. Guessed I Kena on the Schiit thread.

Headset? You're not planning to go for headphones + seperate mic setup?
What do you have in mind?

My current one is a HD558, but I've reached a point where I need an upgrade. It's two years old already, and I've been poisoned enough to notice I'm not satisfied anymore. The Mic stays, gonna use it as a seperate piece. Just wanna upgrade my cans.

As for what I have in mind, either the MrSpeaker Alpha Dog, or I go for broke and get the JVC DX2000. But that's abit insane on my part. Probably gonna settle on the Alpha Dog , since reviews pretty say it stacks up against the TH900 at 1/3 the price.

You did sta yoI've tried the TH900. What was your impressions?

TH900? Probably the best closed-headphones that I've ever heard. That bass, seriously that bass!! It's just on another level of immersiveness. So clean, tactile and textured, so much impact, so deep and just really, it envelopes well mixed audio in the best possible way you can dream of. Obviously being a closed headphone means that the mids will suffer a bit and even the TH900 cannot escape that, the lack of dynamics from not being open does show its weakness here. Some owners say they do hear a bit of distortion on the mids, I don't. The distortion is there on freq. graphs though, but I don't hear it.

However, by no means the TH900 sounds weak at all. There are still plenty of detail in the mids, it's not up-forward in your face to cause fatigue but it isn't drowned out by that empowering sweet bass it has. Just don't expect the chilling mids you'll find on a HD800 or even a HD650. Imaging on the TH900 is impressive for a closed headphone,

Haven't had the chance to hear the Alpha Dogs yet but yeah, I've read many who has both says it's very close to one another. But alternatively, Fostex's lower-end TH600 which sells for about the same price as the Alpha Dogs sounds really close to the TH900 too. And I also know there are some who innitially bought a JVC DX2000 and just switched for the cheaper TH600 just because there's no point in having the DX2000.

The TH600 are basically re-badged Denon D7000 (oh and THAT has some of the best presentation of bass out ther too) with just slightly wider soundstage and more refined mids. The differences are very slight though and it could just be down to the different earcup matterials.

The only reason why I even considered the DX2000 was because to me (please note the only place I've tried headsets is either at work, Jaben or at a friends place) It has THE best bass I've ever heard. Low, controlled, layered and full of impact. Wipes the HD700 and T5P or anything else I've tried on the floor with it. But it also does so without bloating and causing it to it to overpower the mids.

Here is where I agree on the shortfalls of close headsets. The mids aren't as nice as that of open back like the T5P or HD650/700. It does have nice smooth rolled treble. Non of that ear piercing sparkling which I hate.

Which is my conundrum because unlike you I haven't tested the Fostex TH600 or 900 or the Denon D7000. Maybe I should try the D7000 and see if it holds up. Definitely won't be getting the TH900 though. Waaaaay outta budget.

Yup, that's why I said for the DX2000 I was just plain suicidal. Probably settle for something cheaper but just as good.

Thanks for the review. Will take a look at the TH600/D7000 (which I heard is discontinued so D7100). Btw the Alpha dog is cheaper shipped. Around RM2.5K tops. So if the Denon sounds good enough I'll take the Alpha Dog.

This post has been edited by Sentinel92: Apr 24 2014, 01:25 AM

The D7100 has a different driver and different build to the D7000, they don't sound similar. Ever since Fostex stopped making headphones for Denon, their headphones has been sort of very controversial.

One review of the D7100 said that it only started sounding nice after over 2000 hours of burn-in.....
Yeah, right. 2000 hours later, the person had better justified the purchase or he'd be looking stupid in the mirror.

I wouldn't take the D7100 as reference to the TH600 because they would be even more disimilar to each other.

I think the Mad Dogs is quite a safe choice though, wouldn't feel bad about picking it up at all.

Eeeer, then where am I gonna try the D7000 when it's discontinued?

Wow. 2000 hours. Even if I listen to it for six hours a day it'll almost take a year. Which is stupid. Guess i can forget that one.

Hmmm, I'll see what I can do. But most probably I'll end up with the Alpha Dogs. Unless I feel it still feels inferior to the DX2000.

Thanks so much for the feedback mate.

Owned siberia v1, 3 siberias v2 before
Now using corsair vengeance 1500
Notice that the corsair quality is so much better and much more grippier.
Not really good experiences with the siberias but no doubt they are very comfortable to wear.
Just that the hinges are not strong and the tend to get loose after a while.

Cool. Let me know how the Alpha Dogs sound if you decide to get it.

Right now I'm pretty much at an end-game with Fidelio X1 + Vmoda BoomPro setup for gaming.
Then I'm on the Annies for music (though I do take the Annies for competitive gaming over the X1). It's a humble setup but I don't think I wanna jump back into high-end gear anytime soon eventhough I do miss the TH900.


Not surprised.

Majority of gaming headsets has poor built quality for a reason — the bulk of the money goes into advertising and sponsorship, not into manufacturing the product.