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post Jan 14 2009, 03:55 PM

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It would be a NAS if it is accessed via your network, be it wired or wirelessly. If you plug this in straight to your MBP, it is just another external hard drive. However, if you plug the USB end of this enclosure to your Time Capsule, and access it via the Time Capsule wirelessly, then it is a NAS.

The Sharespace comes with three configurations, although I've only seen two configs on storefronts.

1. Empty shell, just the NAS enclosure, no HDD inside.

2. NAS enclosure + 2 x 1TB WDC Green HDDs.

3. NAS enclosure + 4 x 1TB WDC Green HDDs.

Which model did you look at?

Also, Western Digital is looking into producing the world's first 2TB WDC Green drives, trying to beat Seagate and Maxtor to the punch. Looks like when that happens, my setup would be growing twice in size. rclxms.gif
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post Jan 14 2009, 04:50 PM

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No idea, I have never seen it either.
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post Jan 15 2009, 02:10 PM

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Like I said before, my experience with enclosures is restricted to WD MyBooks only, boss. The whole idea is to keep any external storage I need to connect to, connected wirelessly, so I dont have dangling cables to deal with. So if you look at the chart I made, all these external storage drives I had, are connected to the Time Capsule itself, nothing is on the laptops. I do have a Buffalo 500GB USB-powered external HDD, but that one does not stay stuck to the USB port on any of my Macbooks permanently.

If you're into looks, then I guess LaCie would be complement the looks of your MBP. But I've read some bad things about LaCie drives, no matter how good they look.

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post Jan 28 2009, 01:01 AM

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Western Digital's hard drives now tops at 2 TB!

Looks like it's time to overhaul the Sharespace again. Anybody wants 4 x 1TB WD Caviar Green? biggrin.gif
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post Jan 28 2009, 12:57 PM

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Wait till I get my grubby hands on those 2 TB units first, then we'll discuss the price. tongue.gif Probably wont be less than 70% the market price, since it is more less quite recent.

Too bad I dont have another Australian run next month, Gizmodo already reported that the 2 TB HDDs are already on store shelves there.
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post Mar 19 2009, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(desaputra @ Mar 3 2009, 09:06 PM)
Very nice setup.... my dream.... just waiting to come back to malaysia and design my dream home....


Added on March 3, 2009, 9:09 pmjust wondering.... is time capsule worth to buy... coz it seem cost toooo much compare other brands with same features.... do you have any problem with it? how about its wireless streaming speed-n??? is it reliable & as fast as they claim?...
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YES. I guarantee it.

Disclaimer: The guarantee is honored only if you run an all-Apple network of devices. Add the mess that is Windows, I can no longer vouch for that guarantee.

Zero problem whatsoever.

QUOTE(cRazYee @ Mar 19 2009, 10:39 AM)
stringfellow, can you share with about iTunes HD movie experience?
how the quality? it really concern me now
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Quality? Apple's HD offerings from iTunes, is not HD by true definition. The resolution may be 1280 x 720, allowing the "HD" moniker, but the video and audio bitrate, plus image quality from these videos falls way short from a 720p you can get from HD-DVDs or Blu-rays. Streaming them using my setup, because of the crappier quality, allows better transmission, because the data rate being transmitted is wayyy below the bandwidth cap, or if any, its overheads.

I have not tried streaming ripped .mkvs from Blu-rays, because frankly, it is legally wrong. Plus not to mention, these rips only tries to preserve the quality of the image, but takes a laidbrack approach when it comes to sound.

Either way, I keep my SD and HD content separate. SD via this wireless delivery system, with the occasional "HD" from iTunes, and the true HD contents using Blu-ray discs and players.
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post Mar 20 2009, 05:56 AM

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Speaking of HD content, Apple just launched HD downloads of movies through iTunes today at 4 AM. Before this, only HD versions of TV Shows were available. Filesize for the HD movie download is around 3++GBs, so expect 720p resolution, and Dolby Digital Plus at best. HD movie purchase, however, also includes SD versions of the same movie, for your iPhone/iPod/Apple TV viewing.
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post Mar 20 2009, 04:38 PM

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Why pay USD19.99 for a HD download from iTunes, when a Blu-ray costs only USD17.99? Stripped-off image quality and severely pared-down audio format is not what I call HD.
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post Mar 20 2009, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(pmsoo @ Mar 20 2009, 04:55 PM)
Ouch.. US$19.99 is broad daylight robbery.. in the comfort of our living room!

String, my D-link 323 2Tb have been periodically restarting on its own, its driving me nuts! When you setup your WD sharespace, Can it hot swap?

D-Link 323 force me to format them before i can use it which is a pain in the ass. I have about 900-950 Gb filled,i cant transfer manually unless i have a spare 1Tb drive and even then, its gonna take forever sad.gif
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Same here. I had to format and RAID them up, that takes 47 hours. I dont think the Sharespace is hotswappable, just easy toswap due to its construction.

Touchwood, mine works fine so far. Coming up to 75% full, and still works as good as Day 1.

Iwould suggest, as painful as it is, to transfer your data out to a spare drive and reformat it back again. Losing that data out because of its inconvinience can be more painful.
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post Apr 6 2009, 11:25 PM

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Just bought the NEW Time Capsule, with the "dual-band" feature, and guest network. No more downgrading the "N" network to "B/G" compatible when the iPhone(s) logs in into the network. Also great for the guests coming over for TV Show nights, so that I can assign them a secure guest network channel, that is separate from the band allocated for wireless transfer of media to the three Apple TVs at home. rclxms.gif
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post Apr 7 2009, 12:32 PM

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It means that my Apple TV can run at full N speed, without being downgraded to G whenever an iPhone logs into the network. Joy! rclxm9.gif

Yup, RX it's for sale now, but a colleague already "sambar" the TC when I broke the news on my new purchase. However, since it's all just verbal.......brows.gif

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post Apr 7 2009, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(ff8ong @ Apr 7 2009, 12:55 PM)
Omg,it is not even a concept.It is true.lol

Super impress you.  thumbup.gif
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What is "not even a concept"? VOD? VOD is a term that has been tossed around for quite a while already, just that the method of delivery is dependant on the entity that sets it up. The most common one is the hotel environment via their TV remote.
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post Apr 7 2009, 09:00 PM

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If interested, we deal in PM. But if the interest is superficial only, it goes to my colleague by this Friday. The Time Capsule already packed back nicely into its box.
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post Apr 8 2009, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(frozzbyte @ Apr 7 2009, 11:28 PM)
I saw the WD ShareSpace at DigitalMall for under RM2K with 2TB of HD. Still contemplating to get it or not. So many things to upgrade la, thinking of replacing my old netgear router to a faster one preferably a Belkin N+.

Bro string ... have u seen the DroboPro? Now that thing reignites my interest for Drobo. smile.gif
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Yup, Gizmodo broke the news just now. 8 bay for 16TB total! shocking.gif The barebones alone is USD1,600. Belum masuk itu HDD. I think I'll stick with my Sharespace. I can just upgrade to 4 x 2TB later in the future. I have already crossed 50% total capacity usage already on mine though. sweat.gif

QUOTE(terencetoo @ Apr 7 2009, 11:55 PM)
im using belkin N too there's significant different in the bandwidth....
i tried B throughput/G and lastly N....manage to get 20Mbps smile.gif (best effort)

The new Time Capsule enhance in "Simultaneous dual-band Wi-Fi." and "Guest networking." only is that so..

what about "Easy wireless networking up to 50 users?" does this also apply in the new Time Capsule?
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Looking through Mactracker, the "Easy wireless networking up to 50 users?" fueature is carried over as well.

I've just changed my Dlink DSL-520T router to Netgear DG835G modem router. Reason being, I am ready to try and utilise the "Back to My Mac" feature incorporated with MobileMe. Also, with the Netgear, it totally clears the "Moderate NAT" mess I had suffered with using together on PSN and Xbox Live, totally opening the NAT. I dont know what is the problem with the 520T, but even with port forwarding, my NAT refuses to open. (NAT aaaa, not nuts, dont get any funny ideas! laugh.gif) Now all problem solved! rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(sinyc @ Apr 8 2009, 04:40 PM)
Hi Stringfellow,

Finally decided to get the WD-SS in the next month or two biggrin.gif. Saw a 4TB model at the Curve for RM3388! I think Computerwar in SS2 quoted me RM2800 before.

Anyway, i have some questions to ask to prepare myself for the data transition. (i have been searching the WD knowledge base and its hell)

Basically it'll be running as a NAS and itunes server for an iMac, Macbook & a Windows XP HP laptop  connected to an Apple Extreme Base Station. iMac connected via network cable, the laptops wireless. I plan to purchase an Apple TV at a later date. The windows laptop will use the sharespace mainly for data backup only.

1) Do you need to reformat the sharespace using OSX disk utility before running the raid 5 setup? if so which format is best? Mac OSX journalled? i understand FAT32 not compatiable for files larger than 4GB
2) How do i transfer my itunes library over while keeping all my custom data (ratings, play count, play list etc?). normally with an external HDD i think i just need to go to itunes and "consolidate library" then point itunes to the new drive? The knowledge base highlights some instructions using the itunes media server software.

http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/ph...li=&p_topview=1

http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/ph...li=&p_topview=1

3) Apple TV will need the host computer to have itunes running to conduct a sync right? similar to iphone sync?
4) Would like to share my itunes library with my macbook but its not important if i cannot do it.
5) If the WD-SS fails (ie the WD-SS hardware NOT the WD HDD's), how can i recover my data? If its a failure and the WD-SS can be repaired then ok, am thinking if its a major failure and i need to replace the entire WD-SS, can i just transfer all 4 HDD's over? My impression is that every news startup the WD-SS will reformat and Re-RAID the drives deleting all the data.
6) what is MioNET?

Many thanks.

regards
sin yc
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Phew, lotsa questions! I'll try my best to answer them.

1.I just did what the manual says under the things you have to do first while in Mac OS X. IIANM, I went straight into the NAS management screen via Safari/Bonjour and RAIDed it straight away. Once done(49 hours on RAID5!), you'll have to mount it under SMB protocol using the "smb://wdsharespace" command while in Finder. It's all in the manual.

2.I had my iTunes library externally on the WD MyBook Studio Edition I had, and all I had to do is assign the library to a new location, and iTunes does the rest. Everything is intact after the transfer, but the time-to-transfer was painful. Make sure you run this transfer wired!

3. Yup, the Apple TV merely acts as an extender for your iTunes, so it has to be drawing its source from somewhere. Unfortunately, a Mac has to be on for this.

4. Depending on how you decide to leave your iTunes Library file in, you can actually do this. I left mine on the Sharespace. What I did to let my Air load up the same library is to Option-click iTunes, a window will come up asking to either create or choose an existing iTunes Library, pick the iTunes library file on the Sharespace and load it up. The advantage of this is, the iTunes library is INDEPENDENT of any Mac, and it resides in a location which is reachable by any Mac, be it the present Mac, or any newly introduced Macs in the network.

5. This link should help you. http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/30586/75/1/2/ It describes the event of single HDD failure and the correct way to go about recovering from it.

6. MioNET is the Windows-exclusive program for Sharespace that allows the data on the Sharespace to be accessible outside of the local network. Another computer with MioNET software installed can "talk" to the Sharespace and allow remote access to its storage content.
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post Apr 8 2009, 07:40 PM

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Bravia Z here. Pioneer Kuro 9th Gen. in SoCal. The selection is mainly because of our needs actually, I game+movie+mac mini monitor on the Z, my better half there for her TV shows needs. She doesn't game much, plus we have an iMac in the den for her use anyway.
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Funny how Gizmodo decides to do an article on RAID HDD arrays and have this as the chosen image:-

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Either someone at Giz has read about my setup, or a Giz reader has forwarded my setup thread to them, or it could *gasp* pure coincidence. Either way, the Gizmodo article is a good read on the many different RAID setups you can do on your HDD arrays.

P/s: Or it just shows that the WD Sharespace is a nice, and reliable NAS to use for RAID arrays and examples like these. tongue.gif


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I'll have to make a new one. The White Macbook replaced with Mac Mini, Nintendo DSL changed to DSi, and some of the wired devices are now connected wirelessly, since the new Time Capsule is now transmitting both "N" and "G" without any bandwidth downgrades, thanks to its simultaneous dual-band feature. Also need to add in a spot for "guest network" allocated devices when friends comes around.

Later lah, lazy want to do now. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sinyc @ Apr 10 2009, 07:07 AM)
many thanks for your reply. actually for Q5, was concerned what happens if the RAID controller or the WD-SS fails but all 4HDD's are intact. how do you recover your data.

i guess it will be similar to how are you going to migrate from your 4x1TB system to your 4x2TB system? i do not think you can just swap your drives one-by-one. this is the disadvantage of the WD-SS compared to Drobo biggrin.gif

btw, your setup was referenced to at the Apple Discussion Forums biggrin.gif

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?m...021759�
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I guess for your question is you'd need another Wd Sharespace, and do as per what suggested on that link. I would think the same has to be done too when a Drobo fails, you still have to find a way to salvage it by ....buying another Drobo?

Nice to know someone's benefiting from my setup there. biggrin.gif The question asked by that link referring to my setup is still unanswered though.
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QUOTE(falsemove @ Apr 15 2009, 08:28 PM)
Stringfellow,
Nice job on the set up. I was wondering if u could give me a hand on a little issue. here is my setup.....
Wdsharespace to time capsule-
time capsule to iMac running leopard (ethernet)-
iMac synced to tv using wireless network

the 2 issues i am having are......

1, i tunes seams to be loading the content (40gb music - 87 movies) very slow on the iMac.

2, my tv says that it cannot read the format of my movies in itunes when it did before this setup.

Any Ideas? please let me know.

Thanks for all your help thus far.

Rob
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1. Are your syncing the contents into your Apple TV or streaming it? My setup requires little(if any) syncing, as it loads the library details for streaming only. If you choose to sync to Apple TV, the first time sync is always slow. You can alleviate this by using a wired connection to your Apple TV, and plug that Ethernet cable out once you are done. Be mindful that the Apple TV sometimes goes on a fritz once in a blue moon, and when that happens, if you choose to sync, the same procedure applies again. It will take that long to sync again. The beauty of streaming it to the Apple TV that is does not require the content to be in your Apple TV , it stays in your WD Sharespace (which I assume where your contents are). When this happens, iTunes only loads the content table and where in the library those media files in your library is located, so the sync is short.

2. This happens when there's network congestion. I have a couple of occasion on this very same error you mentioned, that is because the system has yet to load up the file extension of the movies you are loading, hence giving out that error. Most of the time, this happens when there is "cross-traffic" of sorts, for example, you are backing up using Time Capsule while loading large movie files. I notice that for Time Machine backups that are small in size (incremental backups), this will not effect your Apple TV loading those movie files. Also, avoid accessing files off your WD Sharespace if you can, while you are streaming content off the WDSS to your Apple TV, especially when you are on the "G" network. I have had no such errors anymore once I've upgraded my Time Capsule to "N"/"G" dualband. This setup and network overhead is more forgiving while on the "N" networkl.

I hope that answers your question. Otherwise, dont hesitate to post them here again, or PM me. Good luck!

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