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 LYN Proton Saga/Iswara Drivers' Forum! V15, sifoo now playing with fuel injection??!

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post Dec 18 2008, 11:22 PM

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guys, FYI.. eneos in Klang (beside Aeon Bukit Tinggi) got promotion for wax and polish for RM50 for our LMSTs during weekdays..

i asked today when i went there.. the eneos here just open not long ago, got promo..
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post Dec 19 2008, 01:07 AM

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Waa.... 2day ar very shocking n scary experience la... Yestaerday, change my springs edi... all 4 since sum xpert said my old springs sag edi... So change 2 'Genuine Proton Parts'... after siap installing all.... my front tilt 2 freaking high... my rear ok... but da front like been jack up. Da mech check again, he said evrything ok... no prob... n he said is suppose 2 b like this if use original.. true ar??? hmm.gif Bcuz on da box it says Iswara 1.5 n 'Genuine' summore... Rear tires also change since its bald edi... Then, time 2 test power... @ NPE highway, layan corner (not dat sharp) around 100km/h... front skidded (maybe under steer) turn da steering summore... then suddenly got grip... by dat time turn 2 much edi. Release a bit, car went left n right... rear begin 2 skid outta control... 4rom right lane 2 middle, then right.... n totally lost control, went straight 2 da left lane n scrape my front left on da wall a bit... shocking.gif luckily dat time i wuz decelerating nod.gif But it wuz 1 hell of a experience... tongue.gif So.. I went back 2 da mech n told him about it.... Y da car lari left n right... Bcuz b4 I change all my 4 springs n rear tires also ok... no problem n da car x buang... biggrin.gif He said, cuz my front spring is 2 high n stiff... N my gas charged abosorber

He is sum question:
1. Izzit true da mech said bcuz of my front suspension 2 high??? Cuz now I change 2 APM Sports (which I dun quite like)
2. N izzit true da mech said combination of Gas charged absorber n new springs will make it 2 stiff n cannot paly along???
3. Iswara 1.5 can fit ar??? Cuz he said no diffrnt... Both r da same... rclxub.gif


Hope any1 can help notworthy.gif notworthy.gif Cuz I really takut now my car not stable anymore. N I m not trying 2 show off my skills or daredevil act here, but 2 seek help 4rom xperts... nod.gif

Thanks all... icon_rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by rozz_1291: Dec 19 2008, 01:25 AM
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post Dec 19 2008, 07:39 AM

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QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Dec 19 2008, 01:07 AM)
Waa.... 2day ar very shocking n scary experience la... Yestaerday, change my springs edi... all 4 since sum xpert said my old springs sag edi...  So change 2 'Genuine Proton Parts'... after siap installing all.... my front tilt 2 freaking high... my rear ok... but da front like been jack up.  Da mech check again, he said evrything ok... no prob... n he said is suppose 2 b like this if use original.. true ar??? hmm.gif  Bcuz on da box it says Iswara 1.5 n 'Genuine' summore... Rear tires also change since its bald edi... Then, time 2 test power... @ NPE highway, layan corner (not dat sharp) around 100km/h... front skidded (maybe under steer) turn da steering summore... then suddenly got grip... by dat time turn 2 much edi. Release a bit, car went left n right... rear begin 2 skid outta control... 4rom right lane 2 middle, then right.... n totally lost control, went straight 2 da left lane n scrape my front left on da wall a bit... shocking.gif  luckily dat time i wuz decelerating nod.gif  But it wuz 1 hell of a experience... tongue.gif  So.. I went back 2 da mech n told him about it.... Y da car lari left n right... Bcuz b4 I change all my 4 springs n rear tires also ok... no problem n da car x buang... biggrin.gif  He said, cuz my front spring is 2 high n stiff... N my gas charged abosorber

He is sum question:
1. Izzit true da mech said bcuz of my front suspension 2 high??? Cuz now I change 2 APM Sports (which I dun quite like)
2. N izzit true da mech said combination of Gas charged absorber n new springs will make it 2 stiff n cannot paly along???
3. Iswara 1.5 can fit ar??? Cuz he said no diffrnt... Both r da same... rclxub.gif
Hope any1 can help notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  Cuz I really takut now my car not stable anymore. N I m not trying 2 show off my skills or daredevil act here, but 2 seek help 4rom xperts... nod.gif

Thanks all... icon_rolleyes.gif
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1. front suspension high, less weight in front, u'll experience understeer.... u change wad spring??... oem spring or apm sports spring??...
2. suspension stiff only nice to play corner la... but also depends on ur suspension setup... actually wad u looking for??... comfort or performance??... lowered or oem height??..
3. yeap... saga iswara 1.3 and 1.5 oem spring is the same.... but a little different with lmss/lmst spring.... lmss/lmst spring are 20mm lower....
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post Dec 19 2008, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Dec 19 2008, 07:39 AM)
1.  front suspension high, less weight in front, u'll experience understeer.... u change wad spring??... oem spring or apm sports spring??...
2.  suspension stiff only nice to play corner la... but also depends on ur suspension setup... actually wad u looking for??... comfort or performance??... lowered or oem height??..
3.  yeap... saga iswara 1.3 and 1.5 oem spring is the same.... but a little different with lmss/lmst spring.... lmss/lmst spring are 20mm lower....
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1. lor... so dangerous 1.... b4 dis I wuz using my old spring until u said da spring sag edi... so I change 2 normal OEM springs bcuz I dun quite like those lowered type... later not comfortable, after 2hours use... I kena those udersteer thing n lost control mad.gif ... so now I changed 2 dis APM sports springs... which is freaking expensive...

2. Actually I 1 my car 2 fly over those small speed bumps n layan corner... sweat.gif Then I found out it wuz a bad combination... Plus, these APM springs goes well wit my 15' rims tongue.gif

3. But how come after changing 2 da oem springs, my car bcome like cacat a bit??? Da front tilt higher than da rear... can c da diffrnt. Da mech said its normal cuz originals r likdat rclxub.gif Summore he said bad combination, cuz Gas charged + new springs.. 2 stiffs shakehead.gif True???

Thanks bro... icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Dec 19 2008, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Dec 18 2008, 10:04 PM)
fuhyoo... powerful car sure needs time to tame it... icon_idea.gif
u going at night meh??..

i traveled cameron roads at night... no such feelings what so ever... jz feel like i am takumi damn syok pek corner.... wuahahahaha.... but dat time pakai my sis's myvi potong stim adi.... less power and less lateral G-force.... sad.gif
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ya myvi cornering also sien... doh.gif but the pickup is good le at least better than my ride sweat.gif


Added on December 19, 2008, 9:00 am
QUOTE(zhixin @ Dec 18 2008, 11:22 PM)
guys, FYI.. eneos in Klang (beside Aeon Bukit Tinggi) got promotion for wax and polish for RM50 for our LMSTs during weekdays..

i asked today when i went there.. the eneos here just open not long ago, got promo..
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the service ok or not? so cheap 1 lol laugh.gif


Added on December 19, 2008, 9:02 am
QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Dec 19 2008, 07:39 AM)
1.  front suspension high, less weight in front, u'll experience understeer.... u change wad spring??... oem spring or apm sports spring??...
2.  suspension stiff only nice to play corner la... but also depends on ur suspension setup... actually wad u looking for??... comfort or performance??... lowered or oem height??..
3.  yeap... saga iswara 1.3 and 1.5 oem spring is the same.... but a little different with lmss/lmst spring.... lmss/lmst spring are 20mm lower....
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ar...
LMST spring low by 2cm only ar. doh.gif shd have make lower ma.. i pek corner also sucks body roll to much shakehead.gif

This post has been edited by kevinlim001: Dec 19 2008, 09:02 AM
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post Dec 19 2008, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(Zack Styler @ Dec 18 2008, 11:43 PM)
Up north here mahal a bit, but bos said only tyre, install+balancing extra $$...

Oh ya, how much does used tyres worth? I mean the one the bos try to sell me..Mau survey dulu..
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which north r u in/? ?
but need extra $ 2 do install+balancing is kinda expensive d~
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post Dec 19 2008, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(cheeann @ Dec 19 2008, 09:07 AM)
which north r u in/? ?
but need extra $ 2 do install+balancing  is kinda expensive d~
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Penang oh... doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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post Dec 19 2008, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(Zack Styler @ Dec 19 2008, 10:15 AM)
Penang oh... doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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northern part should b cheaper cuz very bear 2 thailand where those michelin ties made from~
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post Dec 19 2008, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Dec 18 2008, 06:34 PM)
i like stock standard  brows.gif
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sure onot? hehe brows.gif
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post Dec 19 2008, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Dec 18 2008, 07:04 PM)
yeap.... older saga iswara 1.3 and 1.5 uses the same gearbox...

but newer lmst uses different gearbox... the first gear and last gear ratio is different... datz why singchaii car can reach higher top speed den mine...  sad.gif
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i wan change spring and abs....budget around 450-600.
i heard sapura sport spring not bad,but must pair with short stroke abs.
APM performax is short stroke?

any 1 can give idea wad spring and abs is reasonable price and layan corner ok ok. comfort abit la.
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post Dec 19 2008, 11:26 AM

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post Dec 19 2008, 12:54 PM

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GAB? how much?? me also want to layan corner until my car screeming
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post Dec 19 2008, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(yewwing @ Dec 19 2008, 11:26 AM)
GAB tongue.gif
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sure anot? i wan 600 kau tim 1 woh
dun too lowered la. 1 inch or below ok

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post Dec 19 2008, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Dec 19 2008, 01:50 PM)
sure anot? i wan 600 kau tim 1 woh
dun too lowered la. 1 inch or below ok
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top up abit and get GAB + spring la.

QUOTE(eXpert @ Dec 19 2008, 12:54 PM)
GAB? how much?? me also want to layan corner until my car screeming
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dangerous driver spotted tongue.gif

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post Dec 19 2008, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(yewwing @ Dec 19 2008, 02:07 PM)
top up abit and get GAB + spring la.
dangerous driver spotted  tongue.gif
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how much ah???
my car like also so low edi. can meh....
later my skirting pecah,i find u
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QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Dec 19 2008, 02:51 PM)
how much ah???
my car like also so low edi. can meh....
later my skirting pecah,i find u
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autogen offer mah now, rm950 for everything, check with howie la biggrin.gif
i also getting from him soon tongue.gif
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QUOTE(yewwing @ Dec 19 2008, 03:07 PM)
autogen offer mah now, rm950 for everything, check with howie la  biggrin.gif
i also getting from him soon  tongue.gif
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ss and sa?
wei...u haven reply me. my skirting pecah u buy new 1 for me izzit? rclxms.gif
so mahal that abs n ss sad.gif no budjet la
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yup ss and sa nod.gif
take out ur skirting lor tongue.gif
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post Dec 19 2008, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(yewwing @ Dec 19 2008, 03:32 PM)
yup ss and sa  nod.gif
take out ur skirting lor  tongue.gif
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dun wan la.....so free take out meh....
GAB abs n spring so expensive. dun wan la
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QUOTE(rozz_1291 @ Dec 19 2008, 08:41 AM)
1. lor... so dangerous 1.... b4 dis I wuz using my old spring until u said da spring sag edi... so I change 2 normal OEM springs bcuz I dun quite like those lowered type... later not comfortable, after 2hours use... I kena those udersteer thing n lost control  ... so now I changed 2 dis APM sports springs... which is freaking expensive...

2. Actually I 1 my car 2 fly over those small speed bumps n layan corner... sweat.gif  Then I found out it wuz a bad combination... Plus, these APM springs goes well wit my 15' rims

3. But how come after changing 2 da oem springs, my car bcome like cacat a bit??? Da front tilt higher than da rear... can c da diffrnt. Da mech said its normal cuz originals r likdat  Summore he said bad combination, cuz Gas charged + new springs.. 2 stiffs  True???

Thanks bro...
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selamba only u mod ur car without surveying and researching around... no wonder nowadays people say mod car is expensive and troublesome... never do research properly... doh.gif

if not mistaken, last time my car on oem suspension also front tilted abit higher den rear... no idea why proton designed the car such a way....
tell me mah if u interested in oem spring, i still have mine kept in da store room... if u want can sell to u cheap cheap....

QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Dec 19 2008, 08:59 AM)
ya myvi cornering also sien...  but the pickup is good le at least better than my ride


Added on December 19, 2008, 9:00 am
the service ok or not? so cheap 1 lol 


Added on December 19, 2008, 9:02 am
ar...
LMST spring low by 2cm only ar. doh.gif shd have make lower ma.. i pek corner also sucks body roll to much
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currently driving my sis's myvi auto... the dvvt system kinda sucks at certain throttle position and revs... 1st gear vr good initial pickup... after dat when reach 2nd or 3rd gear, the revs climb kinda high but speed remains the same... and the problem is revs keep climbing but didnt shift up gears... doh.gif but at least myvi throttle respond is way better than saga blm...

proton make cars dat could cater for all people, young and old mah... not everyone enjoy lowered sport suspension... lowering the ride height but maintaining ride comfort in such a low budget car is tough....

QUOTE(dopeisgood @ Dec 19 2008, 10:27 AM)
sure onot? hehe 
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abuhden... u see my engine bay also know la... stock standard...

QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Dec 19 2008, 11:04 AM)
i wan change spring and abs....budget around 450-600.
i heard sapura sport spring not bad,but must pair with short stroke abs.
APM performax is short stroke?

any 1 can give idea wad spring and abs is reasonable price and layan corner ok ok. comfort abit la.
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my setup...
kimex springs (4pc) - rm130
kayaba rs (4pc) - rm390
total - rm520

why so cheap??... because my springs and rear abs are second hand... wuahahahaha....

budget rm600 to change springs and absorber tak cukup bai... unless u change back to stock absorbers and springs can la.... comfort confirm ada...

QUOTE(eXpert @ Dec 19 2008, 12:54 PM)
GAB? how much?? me also want to layan corner until my car screeming
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u want tyre screaming, jz use cheapskate tyre with oem suspension also can make it screaming....

QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Dec 19 2008, 01:50 PM)
sure anot? i wan 600 kau tim 1 woh
dun too lowered la. 1 inch or below ok
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1inch or below??... den u get adjustable suspension or jz change short stroke absorbers without changing to lowered springs.... mayb can lower ur car abit geh....

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