At least in UK, there are much more pharmacists than in Msia. So what if they are not locals? They are working there no?
Read the previous posts if you wanna debate.
There's extreme shortage in Msia.
Whether or not docs will give it back when the number is sufficient, i dunnoe. But i for one agree to give them the dispensing right when the time comes.

Well, Dr. Ismail Merican (i hope you know who he is) said at the moment there's not enough pharmacists in KV, therefore the trial is postponed, not scrapped like what you have mentioned.
I belief his statement is valid.
So in the same way, we must have more than sufficient number of pharmacists before we give them the dispensing right. Dun you think so?
Btw, you know the meaning of sufficient?

Because there's no one else who can diagnose other than doctors? I thought we have gone through that many times. Stop going around in circle.
You as a pharmacy student, do you know how to diagnose CCF or pneumonia?
Diagnostic criteria for asthma and COPD?

Doctors know pharmacology, but pharmacists dun know Internal Medicine. No one else knows besides doctors.

har??
Because shortage is a very valid reason.
Walao, you go around in circle, now you said i go around in circle pulak.

The 2 main reasons for pharmacists not to have dispensing right:
1. Extreme shortage
2. Incompatibility with our health care system

So when there's not enough pharmacists to dispense, you think it'll be safe for the patients?

Why is shortage not a reason. When not enough people to do the job, how to do it properly?

I told you before, the reason i think pharmacists in KV are insufficient based on the fact that there are only 4000+ pharmacists in the whole country, both private and gov.

Then who else can diagnose?
Round and round we go.
Well, i seriously think you are spamming here.

Well, because doctors are the only ones capable of diagnosing and prescribing?

Nurses, medical assistants, and doctors all can dispense. Although not best, but capable.

Besides doctors, there's no one capable of diagnosing and prescribing.

not only that in malaysia, the medicines handed out didn't contain the essential information of the drug, nor a helpful instruction on how to take the medicines, often i see that the medicines were packed into random packet. (e.g. my grandpa recently visited the doctor for his diabetic medication, when i was asked to see the med, i was surprised to see 6 blister packs of gliclazide were packed into a plastic pack which is made for some other drug, for some foot treatment if i recall right).

At least in UK, there are much more pharmacists than in Msia. So what if they are not locals? They are working there no?
Read the previous posts if you wanna debate.
There's extreme shortage in Msia.
Whether or not docs will give it back when the number is sufficient, i dunnoe. But i for one agree to give them the dispensing right when the time comes.

One advantage that I can see is that documentation of medication is necessary when you separate the duties. I visited a doctor in a private clinic in KL yesterday, and you could say it's my first visit to a doctor here as an adult, as I studied abroad before this. The dialogue between the doc and I went:

Doc: "Ok, I'll be giving you some ointment and some antibiotics."
WK: "What's in the ointment and antibiotics?"
Doc: *thinks for awhile and mumbles some mumbo-jumbo*

At this point I didn't write down what he mumbled, thinking that when I get the medication it will be labeled. My fault there, I know. Instead, all I got was a tub labeled "For face" and a loose bag labeled "Antibiotics". I appreciate that it can be cheaper dispensing medicine this way, but it leaves me an uninformed consumer. I don't know who manufactured the drug, when it expires, what it contains (from which I can wikipedia or webmd it up or something), and most importantly - whether I'm getting the right thing.

And as the table shown, about 50% of pharmacists are concentrated in Selangor and FT. So if the trial in KV is a success, how about pharmacists in other areas? More pharmacists will flock into KV if dispensing right is given in KV only. At the same time. other areas will have no more pharmacists liao. So what's the point of having the trial?

Good saying.   

BTw, a suggestion to moderator. IF possible, pls move this thread to RWI. It deserves more intelligent inputs from regulars of RWI, instead of some people here posting invalid reasons and going round and round the points we have discussed many many times.

Umm I think you're the only one here who's jumping at "ARE OUR LIFE CHEAPER THAN UK'S OR WHAT?!?!11?!?!one" in this discussion. No one's stopping anyone from getting their meds from the pharmacist instead of their doctor. As it stands now it's a personal choice.

Now why don't you go to Watsons and get yourself a chill pill?

Are we in the court right now?
We are in a discussion, and i dun see any wrong in trying to predict what will happen next.
Anyway, this is a logical argument. What will be the fate of pharmacists in other areas if dispensing right is only exercised in KV?

Well, i think many of us agree with him, as you are the most emo one and keep on jumping to your own gun that lives are cheaper in Msia.

So are bomoh and mee goreng relevant in this discussion? Also the name calling and personal attack. 

I dunnoe whether you are in medical field or not, but not all new drugs will be used, especially in Msia, as new drugs are mostly more expensive than their generic counterpart. And if you read through the previous posts, some pro-pharmacist forummers stated that if pharmacists gain dispensing right, generic or cheaper drugs will be used for often, as there will be less influence from drug companies (which i highly doubt so).

erm..for me they should know more other than juz enough as there are new pharmaceuticals in the market every year. well maybe the number of pharmacists currently are low but there are steady increase over the last few years, you r rite currently we dont have enough pharmacist but juz for now. Earn more? the docs wan it oso isn't it, well they have the dispensing right but the drugs are not dispense by them but another person.They not really dispense the drugs but they have the rights and earn the money? btw this thread is for discucuss will pharmacist gain dispensing right in Malaysia? but not whether who deserved the right. off topic edi la

this is usually 'used' in critical meds which a patient has been stabilised on like epileptic medications and some other narrow therapeutic meds as different brands could contain different excipeints which can change the pharmacokinetics and bioavailability of it.
but for the most medications usually a substitution can be made.