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post Jan 15 2009, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(skiddtrader @ Jan 15 2009, 01:40 PM)
Hmm maybe my fault for going off topic here, lets continue this discussion in the beginners thread where it will be more use.
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any how do you know how to get better detail in the company in how i ask above ?
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post Jan 22 2009, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 22 2009, 10:24 PM)
Does anyone know yet which are the 30 stocks in question?
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post Apr 25 2009, 02:16 PM

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post Jun 12 2009, 11:22 PM

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I think the new trading security systems put by Bursa is a very good move, especially in reducing the stock price manipulation. The system has been put in place by many other bourses and it is only appropriate for Bursa to follow suit.
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post Oct 7 2009, 11:53 PM

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Just want to update the thread on something new we haven't heard before.

Subject of matter is "Reserve Status" of an order by a broker by Bursa. This was initiated when the broker in question put in an overpriced order of RM17 for KLK when the last price was only RM13+. No matching of order is done during "Reserve Status".

QUOTE(lklatmy @ Oct 7 2009, 03:55 PM)
I tend to agree with cherroy that this isn't any conspiracy.This is what I observed on my BFE terminal that day:

Someone keyed in a market order to buy KLK during the pre-closing session(1645hr to 1650hr),quantity I can't remember,TCP appeared as RM17 as buyer overwhelm sellers.( There was an uproar in my office then ,thats why I remember).

At 1650hr,Trading at last session starts,but there was no matching for KLK while other stocks were being matched.We were wondering why.(This was later explained when Bursa  in it's explanation clarify that KLK status was at "Reserved",in this state,no matching will be done and the broker initiated the buying market order can actually withdraw the order if he so wish.At this point,we were frantically searching for clients with KLK shares so that we can take advantage of the situation.

Matching at RM17 started at around 4.52pm after the "reserved status"was over,there were still buyers at RM17 after the first round of matching,everyone was so excited that all were calling their clients to sell but it was too late,big sellers came in and sellers overwhelm buyer then.chicken ran away liao!

To me,it's a  case where someone who keyed in a market order did not withdraw it before 1650 hr,could be due to many reasons but most likely,it's a case of oversight especially if that person keyed many market orders for many counters.This practice of market sell and market buy orders during pre-closing was prevalent before ,but after the KLK incident happened,I see very few  yesterday.

This is a good lesson for the big boys,always play play, have a taste of their own medicine.In fact,I think many of us are very happy that the perpetrator have to folk out 0.5m for they have been doing this kind of monkey business  far too often,thereby influenced the closing price.

If it is a conspiracy,there got to be a motive ,In this case,if try to influence the closing price,then they have suceeded but very costly and even a 3 year old knows that the price will fall back the next day.If the motive is to influence the FKLI closing,it is not month end and the perpetrator should also know that the FKLI opening next day will be down too since the KLK price will open lower.

We can expect less monkey business during the closing from now on.Something to cheer cheers.gif
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post Dec 27 2017, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 29 2008, 07:31 PM)
The Theorectical open and closing price work like this, (simple illutration)

The system has all the orders and total it up. Let say abc stock

buy order at
1.00 got 100,000 lots
0.99 got 120,000 lots
0.98 got 20,000 lots
0.97 got 50,000 lots

While sell order at
1.00 got 10,000 lots
0.99 got 50,000 lots
0.98, got 10,000 lots this 1 u intend for 10,000 is it? saw ur post is 10,00
0.97 got 30,000 lots

So the theorectical price will be set at 0.99, whereby the most possible transaction that can be carried out ie 50,000.
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hi, search forum found out this.

said in ur case, isn't that the price would be match at RM1 and then after opening it would be like this? whereby 100,000 already traded at RM1?
sharesBSShares
120,0000.991.01xxx
20,0000.981.02xxx
50,0000.971.03xxx



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post Dec 27 2017, 05:42 PM

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post Dec 28 2017, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(TheLegend27 @ Dec 27 2017, 05:40 PM)
hi, search forum found out this.

said in ur case, isn't that the price would be match at RM1 and then after opening it would be like this? whereby 100,000 already traded at RM1?
sharesBSShares
120,0000.991.01xxx
20,0000.981.02xxx
50,0000.971.03xxx
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Yes, the opening price should be 1.00 and executed the old example was wrong.
Because 1.00 order outnumbered other.
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post Dec 29 2017, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 28 2017, 11:00 AM)
Yes, the opening price should be 1.00 and executed the old example was wrong.
Because 1.00 order outnumbered other.
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noted. now i get it how these work. kena jump queue by other sometimes sweat.gif

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