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post Jul 14 2009, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(amywmy @ Jul 13 2009, 12:31 PM)
after reading this thread, i am even more confused.so many replies saying ap phones good.

i have bought 3 AP phones from a shop super near my house and it gave problem after problem after problem. example :
within one week my motorola v1 the battery life drained like hell (with minimum usage, never play music, only a phone call per day, etc), then send back for repair, then same problem, then back to repair again, it came back fine with plenty of scratches. hati sakit!!!! vmad.gif

my other phone, motorola rzr , i changed to new battery (rm10 or rm15 cannot remember), the battery sorta of expanded within a few days and cannot fit into the battery place.it looked like it was going to explode.
the usb cable that came with it, also karat one, cannot connect properly to usb port. mad.gif

all of these bought from same shop.

so, i got ap stuff phobia. my dad also. so he INSISTS i get a ori phone from an authorized dealer.
but then the price is ori phone and ap phone very far apart. my dad is asking me to use my own money to buy.

how do i know that the shop i go into sells ori phones? i may ask for ori but if they give me ap then how?

does the warranty sticker from authorised dealers indicates 100% that the phone is ori?

my dad asked me to go to shops that has authorisation to sell these phones from the authorised dealers. HOW TO FIND???? HOW TO KNOW????

someone PLEASE ADVICE ON THIS AP/ORI thing. rclxub.gif
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for the ori phones (i called it official unit), you can check the package and contents of the phone, normally will stick with the official distibutor verifying stamp on each item in the pacakge..and the imei number should be match with the box..must be with the official warranty card..
and the shop will issue you a receipt with the imei number to prove the unit that you bought from them..
this is the basic you have to know when purchase a phone..
and i think you go thru again the previous thread or other thread, you will easily know what is the different between AP and Ori..





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post Jul 21 2009, 04:02 PM

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post Jul 28 2009, 05:59 PM

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Hi fellow brothers and sisters.
I am buying Sony C905. But stil considering the consequences if i buy AP set instead of Ori set.
Few things under concern:
-Can i stil do the software/firmware updates from time to time FOC?
- Anyone could verify which and which parts are under warranty? like battery, adaptor i know is 1 month for AP.

Please advise...
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post Aug 1 2009, 06:22 PM

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anyone know the ap company asia mobile supplies and BBS distribution? are they reputable?
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post Aug 2 2009, 10:09 AM

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okay..
from my POV as a phone retailer since Jan 2008.was selling in LYN also before. im a dealer mainly from telstra(selling around 300++ unit phones from this company). asia mobile@ pacific(selling about 100++units).sumtimes got stock from nefion and BBS(rarely take stock from these 2,around 20 unit only).then after telstra i change to k.k tele(about 200++ units).then to GBS n Final choice(havent took any phone yet from these comp.will update after this).

experience with telstra

for me this company offers the cheapest price+longest warantty period (2 years for ic and mobo,1 year LCD and 3 month for charger,cable,keypad,buzzer n joystick n ribbon.take note only ic n mobo for 2 years!).telling the truth,they provide 1 to 1 exchange within 1 week(u can ask the seller to change if got major prob within 1 week).i ve done it 3 times.the key is request for change from ur seller if got major probs within a week,dont go to service centre at low yat plaza there! the telstra office is at jln ipoh.

-for charger n cable,they havent put the sticker on these things.so u can claim warantty even after 3 months.u can ask the seller to do that.i always change it after 3months if got request from my customer.

-dont buy phones that got tatto(02,VODAFONE,ORANGE,TIM).my experiance,phones that got tatto from o2 n vodafone gives u more problem.ORANGE n TIM quite ok lar.other thing to be alerted if u buy from this company,always check the charger when u buying from a telstra dealer.it is because the charger is oversea charger,u cannot plug into charging,because the difference in design.

-if u buy nokia from telstra,from my experiances,it gives u not much problem.even no prob at all.maybe sumtimes only got minor prob like the buzzer.if u go to service cntre there at low yat,they can fix within an hour. S.E got many probs,and always got probs,especially buzzer,joystick,n ic..n u have to be worried wit RECON set also.please check using the code (> * <<*<*)then press service test n press total call time.i also kena 5 times.very rugi ma.

-about service centre,the aunty there quite ok la.very slow voice.they dont need the warantty card if u send for service or repairing,n u need not to activate the warantty registration using sms like in the warantty card.they juz look for the waranty sticker.my experiances,they wont repair it for u,if they can detect any water trace in ur phone,even at ur backside keypad(the yellowish trace),n it even dont distrupt into the phone mobo or ic..so,please dont put ur phone inside your pants pocket as it result ur sweat going into ur phone! . normally for repairing it will take around 1-10 days to be fix,depend on the problem.

-my ratio is for 20 phones i take from this company,2 to 3 phones will have prob(minor defect or major defect) after 3 to 4 months.


experiance with other AP company

asia mobiles ->so far no probem,not even 1 phone i take from this company got problem.all working fine.except for the price is higher than Telstra.
k.k tele -> for me,very trustable.even it is a small company,they offer phones with imei on the box same with the phone,thus it will eliminate possibility of RECON or not ori accesories.price is higher than telstra but cheaper than asia mobiles on average.the warranty is 15 months.so far no defect unit reported.now they only focus on china phones n not selling AP anymore,but still give service for warantty claim.
BBS n Nefion-->cannot give any comment coz im rarely take phone from these co.but so far no prob i think.can be trusted.NEFION waranty is 12 months BBS is 15 @ 12 months if im not mistaken.

HOPE MY EXPERIENCE CAN HELP ALL FORUMERS!! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(steventan85 @ Jul 13 2009, 09:03 PM)
guys , i will forward wat u wrote to nokia and i insist a clarification .Dont talk cock here by asking ppl getting AP set . AP set might be a recon set.... we all dunno about that .... getting an ori set is like getting an insurance ...  doh.gif  doh.gif  wink.gif

simply void customer warranty shows that ur a barbarian ..... dont treat ur customer as a barbarian as they r smarter than u
Well I think he meant that the Carecentre does that voiding stuffs but not him. Afterall, all he could do was picking up calls and receving bombardments after the customers' warranties were voided.
I doubt if they do that to customers, but if that's the case.... rclxub.gif
You don't know what's going on in each and every company, they have all unique and different policies. so I stand in the middle of the true/false line.
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post Aug 3 2009, 11:57 PM

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First you must understand.

Original phones are back by their Main Manufacturer like NOKIA LIMITED OR NOKIA IN FINLAND.

Sit down and use logic to think. Who pay for the parts and repair for AP phones? They ownself right? So how can they survive? SO they use all kind of excuses to drag or prolong u to fix the problem
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post Aug 7 2009, 03:51 AM

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my husb want to by c905..then go to the se centre at plaza shah alam...
nearly bought it...but not..about 1 hour wainting coz the have no stock(i want silver but the have gold)..have to pegi amik kat centre klang...
then he said klang also have the silver...my decided to take the gold one...bila nk bayar my husb feel weird why there's no waranty card..said ori set...
then he check the phone..search for the phone funct...finally he found out
there's bahasa jawa,sundal n so mny others weird language..he got so mad..give back the phone to de seller..then walk out from the shop..

wanna ask..izit ori or not..normally phone we've bought b4..just have basic language..the seller said it ori with rm1800..

didnt buy coz takut kna tipu lg..b4 this using n93i..tokei kdai said it ori..but we're noob.know nothing about phone..less than 1 year use..the camera jammed...battery kondem...go for other shop they said it's ap..waaa we bought the phone rm2700 just 4 the ap set(no wonder la tokei kdai tuh bg byk gift..siap bg slim bagi lagi..)..at that time ap set just rm2100..

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Normally how long warranty period for LCD Screen on original Zitron Nokia Handphone?
12months as well?
found out one died/stuck pixel... sad.gif
don't know whether can claim or not,
anyone care to share?
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help me,
i have problem,

saya baru beli sony w350i,
berapa lama untuk charge buat kali pertama?
tokei kata 5 jam,
saya baca dekat forum kata 8/12 jam.
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post Aug 9 2009, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(ssettor @ Aug 7 2009, 03:51 AM)
my husb want to by c905..then go to the se centre at plaza shah alam...
nearly bought it...but not..about 1 hour wainting coz the have no stock(i want silver but the have gold)..have to pegi amik kat centre klang...
then he said klang also have the silver...my decided to take the gold one...bila nk bayar my husb feel weird why there's no waranty card..said ori set...
then he check the  phone..search for the phone funct...finally he found out
there's bahasa jawa,sundal n so mny others  weird language..he got so mad..give back the phone to de seller..then walk out from the shop..

wanna ask..izit ori or not..normally phone we've bought b4..just have basic language..the seller said it ori with rm1800..

didnt buy coz takut kna tipu lg..b4 this using n93i..tokei kdai said it ori..but we're noob.know nothing about phone..less than 1 year use..the camera jammed...battery kondem...go for other shop they said it's ap..waaa  we bought the phone rm2700 just 4 the ap set(no wonder la tokei kdai tuh bg byk gift..siap bg slim bagi lagi..)..at that time ap set just rm2100..
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that one is normal lah u noob..
sorry, but those are languages support by the phone when it is APAC-ANZ Firmware,
asia pacific, china and new zealand...
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post Aug 9 2009, 06:13 PM

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last week just bought SE T280 Thorus set

the phone was fine,does'nt look fake to me

but the box said "made in china"

is that mean ori SE phone really manufactured in china ?

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post Aug 9 2009, 06:17 PM

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u mean, SE phone must be made in japan?
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QUOTE(pakhusin @ Aug 9 2009, 04:42 PM)
that one is normal lah u noob..
sorry, but those are languages support by the phone when it is APAC-ANZ Firmware,
asia pacific, china and new zealand...
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so mean that it's an ori set??even though got these weird language
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that's not weird language..
it's memang like that lah..

different region got different firmware (means different language also)
if u buy SE phone at Israel, u'll get GENERIC firmware instead of APAC ANZ.. in that israel firmware, maybe you'll get israeli language, germany, and so on..

my C901 also have.. sundanese, javanese, malay and so on.. and it's Apac anz also..

Ori and AP of phone are not same as Ori Adidas vs Pasar Malam Adidas.
Ori adidas are made from ori adidas factory, while pasar malam adidas are ciplak or imitation, maybe from thailand. material and quality are not same..

for phones, both ori and ap are from SE factory, no imitations from other factory yet.. same problem, same firmware, same plastic, basically all same lah.. (but if your ap phone comes from different region say imported from israel or uk, higher chances you'll get a branded phone like "orange" "vodafone" (have you seen phones with the tattoo?)


if you buy "ori" that doesnt mean your phone are problem free, and AP set also doesnt mean u buy problematic phone..

only the difference is the warranty, if buy "original" either you'll get warranty from thorus or midland.. which u can send to any SE authorized outlet for repair..

if you buy ap set from normal shop, you must send back the phone to that particular shop for free repair within warranty period.

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seems like everything nowadays is made in china biggrin.gif
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post Aug 15 2009, 03:31 PM

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ap also nice
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i will never ever buy any ap phones...

ap phones are phones taking in mainly from singapore as a spare part into malaysia (there can't just bring in the phone and sell) and assemble back themself and sell it to us..

i strongly urge not to buy ap phones...
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QUOTE(pakhusin @ Aug 9 2009, 04:42 PM)
that one is normal lah u noob..
sorry, but those are languages support by the phone when it is APAC-ANZ Firmware,
asia pacific, china and new zealand...
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APAC is Asia Pacific
ANZ is Australia and New Zealand
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PRC (People's Republic of China) is generally included in APAC

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