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Xromix
post Nov 26 2008, 10:31 PM, updated 18y ago

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Email : babyjam91@hotmail.com


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As you can see I am an honest person (even though she agreed to charge me less RM5 I still wanted to pay RM40 because I got confused with another trade), and made payment on time. You may think that the excuse that her mom thinks CODs are dangerous is a lame excuse, but as a girl I can tell you its a very plausible excuse as my own parents were initially uptight about me COD-ing with strangers (although they're fine with it now). rclxub.gif doh.gif sweat.gif

Today I sms-ed the number that she provided me, and the person replied that he/she has no idea about it, and I have most probably been conned. I then did some googling and questioning and YEAH indeed I have been conned doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif


Here's the proof that she used some famous E-Boutique's accounts :

She asked us (me and 'bearer of truth') to bank in the money into 2 different online seller's accounts


Quote the scammer as seen in my PM screenshot :

"ok la . . i give you my jiejie account.

maybank 112353127578 quah k l"



Quote the scammer to bearer of truth, another victim

"my jiejie mayBank account . .
Yi Von
114785081546"



After Googling, I discover that the FIRST account (which I have banked RM40 into on the 15th Nov) is Clothesbucket's account

Proof : http://clothesbucket.blogspot.com/2008/11/...-chantelle.html, scroll down to the end and you will see the exact same account.

SECOND account belongs to ggcollection.com

Proof : http://www.ggcollection.com/show-help.asp?help_id=6

UPDATE : GG Collection sent out the item to the scammer but did not keep her details, and for the Clothesbucket case, Ying Jee COD-ed with the scammer and gave the scammer cash to help Ying Jee pay Clothesbucket (on YJ's behalf), then the scammer asked me to bank in to Clothesbucket's bank account so that the scammer can keep the cash.

Both Clothesbucket and GG Collection have settled the issue with me and 'bearer of truth', so they are no longer involved with me and her.


The third victim is black_white who banked in RM20 into GG Collection's account.

Any other victims please post here!




EDIT : Sorry for the huge SS. Didn't crop it in case some people think its Photoshopped or somethin

This post has been edited by Xromix: Nov 27 2008, 12:48 PM
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post Nov 26 2008, 10:41 PM

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I'm the user who got conned as well and has been discussing it with Xromix

She gave me account number to GGcollections, and online boutique

I;ve emailed the boutique owner, and confirmed that she made up stories to cover her banking in from different accounts for her purchases
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post Nov 26 2008, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(bearer of truth @ Nov 26 2008, 10:41 PM)
I'm the user who got conned as well and has been discussing it with Xromix

She gave me account number to GGcollections, and online boutique

I;ve emailed the boutique owner, and confirmed that she made up stories to cover her banking in from different accounts for her purchases
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Yeah, she has so many 'jie jie'. I PM-ed another person which I think is also a victim in her other thread, but she has not got back to me yet.
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post Nov 26 2008, 11:25 PM

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EDIT : Both Clothesbucket and GG Collection have settled the issue with me and 'bearer of truth', so they are no longer involved with me and her.

This post has been edited by Xromix: Nov 27 2008, 12:46 PM
yingjee
post Nov 26 2008, 11:51 PM

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xromix, i believe u banked in an amount of rm 40 isit? to clothesbucket..

well, i bought something from jam also. some red earth eyeshadow & foundation.. contacted through e-mail (she asked if i wanted to buy some accessories for my fren's bday but i dont know how she got my email).. i went to her thread n saw d cosmetics so i bought them too.. decided to COD at SS2 sometime last week i think (sorry i really cant remember when).. she was a young girl (about college age?), short hair to the shoulders and coloured contacts.. thn i was supposed to bank in rm 38 or so to the clothesbucket owner.. for this skirt.. but i forgot to bring change (rm 50 notes only) so i asked jam if she had change.. she said she cud bank in for me cos she has maybank2u account.. so i passed her all d money (fr d cosmetics, accesories & clothesbucket).

then recently, i found this girl called pigvonvon (i think?) selling the exact same accessories.. n it jus so happens that i did not get a reply from jam regarding the accessories i bought for my friend in johor. i din want to ask my fren as it was supposed to be a surprise.. so i dont know if i got scammed.. no tracking number no nth! i remember i bought a pink earring.. a golden bracelet and a necklace with 2 pendants on it. sent to johor. i also saw jam enquiring about her accessories.. so i dont know if they r d same person or she's just another victim..

yeah anyway, i havent received my parcel from clothesbucket.. but she said she received my payment on the 16th.. so i assumed jam banked in the money.. she was supposed to return my change anyway doh.gif but until now i havent received a cent from her.. i didnt think much about it as i was having my spm and cudnt be here as much

come to think of it.. i dont even have her number!!

edit : clothesbucket called to say she sent my parcel today

This post has been edited by yingjee: Nov 27 2008, 12:08 AM
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post Nov 27 2008, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(yingjee @ Nov 26 2008, 11:51 PM)
xromix, i believe u banked in an amount of rm 40 isit? to clothesbucket..

well, i bought something from jam also. some red earth eyeshadow & foundation.. contacted through e-mail (she asked if i wanted to buy some accessories for my fren's bday but i dont know how she got my email).. i went to her thread n saw d cosmetics so i bought them too.. decided to COD at SS2 sometime last week i think (sorry i really cant remember when).. she was a young girl (about college age?), short hair to the shoulders and coloured contacts.. thn i was supposed to bank in rm 38 or so to the clothesbucket owner.. for this skirt.. but i forgot to bring change (rm 50 notes only) so i asked jam if she had change.. she said she cud bank in for me cos she has maybank2u account.. so i passed her all d money (fr d cosmetics, accesories & clothesbucket).

then recently, i found this girl called pigvonvon (i think?) selling the exact same accessories.. n it jus so happens that i did not get a reply from jam regarding the accessories i bought for my friend in johor. i din want to ask my fren as it was supposed to be a surprise.. so i dont know if i got scammed.. no tracking number no nth! i remember i bought a pink earring.. a golden bracelet and a necklace with 2 pendants on it. sent to johor. i also saw jam enquiring about her accessories.. so i dont know if they r d same person or she's just another victim..

yeah anyway, i havent received my parcel from clothesbucket either.. but she said she received my payment on the 16th.. so i assumed jam banked in the money.. she was supposed to return my change anyway doh.gif but until now i havent received a cent from her.. i didnt think much about it as i was having my spm and cudnt be here as much

come to think of it.. i dont even have her number!!
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I banked in the RM40 on the 15th, using Cash Deposit Machine so it should be IMMEDIATELY deposited into Clothesbucket's account, I think its not really related to mine, UNLESS it wasn't immediately deposited and only deposited on the 16th. rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

BTW if Clothesbucket said she received RM38 from you means you langsung didn't cause this haha don't worry. Cause I banked in RM40 not RM38.

Where did you COD? If its at her house after your SPM you bring me there la. I will ROBOHKAN AND BAKAR THE SCAMMER'S HOUSE thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif


EDIT: Someone who works in a bank confirmed with me that if you pay via Cash Deposit Machine, it will immediately appear in your statement, no matter weekend or weekday or etc, so my payment was definitely made & deposited on the 15th.

This post has been edited by Xromix: Nov 27 2008, 12:15 AM
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post Nov 27 2008, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(bearer of truth @ Nov 26 2008, 10:41 PM)
I'm the user who got conned as well and has been discussing it with Xromix

She gave me account number to GGcollections, and online boutique

I;ve emailed the boutique owner, and confirmed that she made up stories to cover her banking in from different accounts for her purchases
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may i know if d money u banked in amounts to about.. RM 43?
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post Nov 27 2008, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(Xromix @ Nov 26 2008, 10:31 PM)
User : http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showuser=223729

Threads
: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=845890&hl=
: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=846278&hl=

Email : babyjam91@hotmail.com
As you can see I am an honest person (even though she agreed to charge me less RM5 I still wanted to pay RM40 because I got confused with another trade), and made payment on time. You may think that the excuse that her mom thinks CODs are dangerous is a lame excuse, but as a girl I can tell you its a very plausible excuse as my own parents were initially uptight about me COD-ing with strangers (although they're fine with it now).  rclxub.gif  doh.gif  sweat.gif

Today I sms-ed the number that she provided me, and the person replied that he/she has no idea about it, and I have most probably been conned. I then did some googling and questioning and YEAH indeed I have been conned  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
Here's the proof that she used some famous E-Boutique's accounts :

She asked us (me and 'bearer of truth') to bank in the money into 2 different online seller's accounts

Quote the scammer as seen in my PM screenshot :
"ok la . . i give you my jiejie account.

maybank 112353127578 quah k l"

Quote the scammer to bearer of truth, another victim

"my jiejie mayBank account . .
Yi Von
114785081546"
After Googling, I discover that the FIRST account (which I have banked RM40 into on the 15th Nov) is Clothesbucket's account

Proof : http://clothesbucket.blogspot.com/2008/11/...-chantelle.html, scroll down to the end and you will see the exact same account.

SECOND account belongs to ggcollection.com

Proof : http://www.ggcollection.com/show-help.asp?help_id=6
I have already emailed and sms-ed Clothesbucket as I am one of her previous customers (Clothesbucket is a very very popular e-boutique, owner appeared in the Star & got interviewed before) but she has not replied to either. What other action can I take? (especially if the account holders refuse to refund us) rclxub.gif

Please advice, thanks smile.gif
EDIT : Sorry for the huge SS. Didn't crop it in case some people think its Photoshopped or something
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u must make a police report n let the police do the thing, may b they will freeze the acc that u ald bank in n do the investigation.

i hope tis info can help u in .

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post Nov 27 2008, 12:28 AM

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The item was priced at RM35
babyjam offered RM27
RM27+ RM2 bank charges

Pity Xromix cos clothesbucket not willing to refund :/...

GgCollections willing to refund me after deducting the cost for the item.
like... RM16. smile.gif glad that the owner willing to cooperate
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post Nov 27 2008, 12:32 AM

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poor thing so many conman lately.
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post Nov 27 2008, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(bearer of truth @ Nov 27 2008, 12:28 AM)
The item was priced at RM35
babyjam offered RM27
RM27+ RM2 bank charges

Pity Xromix cos clothesbucket not willing to refund :/...

GgCollections willing to refund me after deducting the cost for the item.
like... RM16. smile.gif glad that the owner willing to cooperate
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har.. sweat.gif so means.. i paid the money to ggcollections?? and jam claimed to be them? omg.. i thought jam was ggcollections.. cos pigvonvon confirmed she was supposed to send sth to my fren in johor (i only told jam i wanted those specific items)..

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post Nov 27 2008, 01:06 AM

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yeap

according to ggcollection Yivon, she got RM30+ RM20 order from babyjam

omg sleep.gif"... we're paying for someone else's purchases
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I am surprised that someone has started this cheating method again..

For those who didnt understand, hope this can make u understand..

1) A Selling G

2) B want to buy G but dont want to pay even a single cent

3) B advertised selling G somewhere else (in this case Lyn)

4) C saw B advertisement and interested to buy G.

5) B give A account number to C

6) C bank in to A account number and inform B that money was in

7) B contact A to let him/her know that money was in.

8) A send G to B

9) B receive G without paying anything

10) C receive NOTHING = Conned!!


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post Nov 27 2008, 07:00 AM

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try to ask the boutique or ggcollections the address of the scammer if the send by pos the item..
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post Nov 27 2008, 10:21 AM

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OMG! i paid to Yi Von RM 20
That's so unethical. Someone please advise me on what to do?
The GG collection is willing to refund?

This post has been edited by black_white: Nov 27 2008, 10:34 AM
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post Nov 27 2008, 10:22 AM

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This is known as a third party scam. Even until now I am fascinated at the way the conman can do this so smoothly. I have tried discussing this with fruitie on how to confirm if someone is the genuine bank account owner but she told me there is no way. You have to trade on your own risk.


Added on November 27, 2008, 10:24 am
QUOTE(black_white @ Nov 27 2008, 10:21 AM)
OMG! i paid to Yi Von
That's so unethical. Someone please advise me on what to do?
The GG collection is willing to refund?
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To GG collections, this is no longer their problem. Someone paid them, and they send out their product. Case closed. The most you can do is request for the conman's details from GG collections as I'm sure they still keep the post receipt. Talk to Yi Von, ask her if she traded with anyone using the babyjam91@hotmail.com email.

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post Nov 27 2008, 11:13 AM

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The latest story now goes like this.

GG Collection sent out her item but did not keep her details, and for the Clothesbucket one, Ying Jee COD-ed with the scammer and gave the scammer cash to help Ying Jee pay Clothesbucket (on YJ's behalf), then the scammer asked me to bank in to Clothesbucket's bank account so that the scammer can keep the cash.

Both Clothesbucket and GG Collection have settled the issue with me and 'bearer of truth', so they are no longer involved. Yeah, she has refunded me as I am not even involved in the purchase, as Clothesbucket says the issue is now between her and YJ as it is YJ's item.

For me, my case is settled, but unfortunately I think YJ got conned by the scammer, and black_white has to contact GG Collection to see if she's willing to refund her.
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I have made payment RM 20 to GG collection. Anyone has details of this scammer?
Full details? I wish to post this in the Internet to warn everyone about this young girl. This is so unethical, babyjam* now i know that your self esteem is just worth that amount of money only.

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This post has been edited by black_white: Nov 27 2008, 11:32 AM
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post Nov 27 2008, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(Apis_LuaLua @ Nov 27 2008, 02:22 AM)
I am surprised that someone has started this cheating method again..

For those who didnt understand, hope this can make u understand..

1) A Selling G

2) B want to buy G but dont want to pay even a single cent

3) B advertised selling G somewhere else (in this case Lyn)

4) C saw B advertisement and interested to buy G.

5) B give A account number to C

6) C bank in to A account number and inform B that money was in

7) B contact A to let him/her know that money was in.

8) A send G to B

9) B receive G without paying anything

10) C receive NOTHING = Conned!!
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sweat.gif this is confusing..

QUOTE(asama @ Nov 27 2008, 07:00 AM)
try to ask the boutique or ggcollections the address of the scammer if the send by pos the item..
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it was sent to me.. read the story before posting lah

QUOTE(Xromix @ Nov 27 2008, 11:13 AM)
The latest story now goes like this.

GG Collection sent out her item but did not keep her details, and for the Clothesbucket one, Ying Jee COD-ed with the scammer and gave the scammer cash to help Ying Jee pay Clothesbucket (on YJ's behalf), then the scammer asked me to bank in to Clothesbucket's bank account so that the scammer can keep the cash.

Both Clothesbucket and GG Collection have settled the issue with me and 'bearer of truth', so they are no longer involved. Yeah, she has refunded me as I am not even involved in the purchase, as Clothesbucket says the issue is now between her and YJ as it is YJ's item.

For me, my case is settled, but unfortunately I think YJ got conned by the scammer, and black_white has to contact GG Collection to see if she's willing to refund her.
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yeah.. i got conned for even more than you doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif teruknya.. (should stop buying stuff here after kena con twice) ish..


Added on November 27, 2008, 9:20 pm
QUOTE(black_white @ Nov 27 2008, 11:20 AM)
I have made payment RM 20 to GG collection. Anyone has details of this scammer?
Full details? I wish to post this in the Internet to warn everyone about this young girl. This is so unethical, babyjam* now i know that your self esteem is just worth that amount of money only.
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for all u know.. it cud be an old man? then send his neice/neighbour's daughter to COD ohmy.gif

This post has been edited by yingjee: Nov 27 2008, 09:20 PM
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wow confusing kinda scam

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