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 Refinance, Should I? BLR down

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DannyOP
post Nov 26 2008, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(fookeesan @ Nov 26 2008, 09:41 AM)
Hi,

I have just taken up AIA offer of 5.75% fixed for 30 yrs home loan for 289,800.

Since BLR has gone down to 6.5%, I think I will drop further. In my opinion, BLR won't increase in the next 5 yrs at least!

Please advise me on the steps and costs.

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Hi Fookeesan,

We have 8 panel banks in our co. At the moment the lowest refinancing rate is 4.35% with 0 moving cost. If you're interested to find out exactly what are your savings and whether you qualify, kindly pm me your property details. Tq.
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post Nov 26 2008, 05:02 PM

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End of the day no harm comparing, if you get X value savings and the savings is worthwhile then obviously you stand to gain by refinancing. However if your penalty exceed your savings, it would be better to stay put.

In your case there is unlikely to have property appreciation so you won't get extra cash in hand but there maybe savings that are worthwhile.

For example 289k loan @ your current 5.75% for 30 yrs =
1) RM1,686.52 per month
2) Interest paid over 30 years RM318,149
3) Total paid over 30 years 607,149

Compared to 289k loan @ BLR - 2.4% (4.1%) for 30 years =
1) RM1,396.44 per month (you pay less RM290 per month)
2) Interest paid over 30 years RM213,719
3) Total paid over 30 years RM502,719

* Total savings of RM104,430, is this worthwhile to pay your penalty?

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post Nov 27 2008, 03:45 AM

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Nov 26 2008, 06:22 PM)
For me, I would calculate on the savings over 5 years for short/medium term plan also. As after 5 years, I might refinance again if there are better package. However, take note that after 5 years, there may not be better package available if BLR rises !!! Hence, you are stuck with fluctuating BLR and may pay more over the 30 years.

Since DannyOP has the calculator, please help to calculate the interest paid for current package and refinanced package in 5 years period.

e.g.
Current @5.75%: 5 years Interest paid = ??

New Package @4.1%: 5 years Interest paid + penalty + MRTA/MLTA + legal fees paid (including absorbed) = ??

If it saves you over 5 years, most of the time you'll save over 30 years. If it doesn't, think and plan carefully. Cause now, you may see you can save RM104k, but that is over 30 years. If you take the new package now and refinance again in 5 years time, you may actually lose more money.

I cannot calculate on TS, as I have my own excel spreadsheet and functions, and I normally pay more than the monthly installment.
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There is no legal fees etc because it is 0 moving cost, hence :-

5.75% 5 years Interest paid = 80,274

4.1% 5 years Interest paid = 56,599

* So there will be a gross savings of RM23,675 (you have to minus your penalty if you r currently in your lock-in period for the nett savings)

* pls note I am not allowed to promote one bank is better than the next because all 8 banks are in our panel and each application is judged seperately. So what is done is your enquiry/application is passed from us (NYLife) to all 8 banks. Since 8 banks are competing for your business, they will come back with the best offer and it is up to you to decide. In some cases there may be more than 1 bank offering the same rate so it all comes to personal choice and experience you may have which bank u prefer to sign up with.

I think this is only fair, rather than the loan officer from one bank die die also say their bank is better than the other. Your enquiry/application details are all kept strictly p&c.

This post has been edited by DannyOP: Nov 27 2008, 04:24 AM
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post Nov 28 2008, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Nov 28 2008, 02:33 PM)

And YES, if it is a Zero moving cost package as advertised, I am expecting FREE LUNCH. Don't explain to me about the offer, and at the end tell me add in X thousand amount into loan and pay installment. Normally when they reach this part, I cut short the conversation.

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It should be straightforward. Don't know why the Maybank officer coudn't get back to you.

In our co. it is not only 1 but 8 banks reply within 3 days of your application. Those that fail to reply we consider they're either not efficient or not interested.



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post Nov 28 2008, 10:37 PM

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Wow 4% is quite high, r u sure? Better to check your loan docs to confirm. What is your loan amount? I can check for u comparing both.
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QUOTE(KLsooner @ Nov 28 2008, 11:06 PM)
My loan amount is 230k, now left about 180k. How about MRTA, last time I bought insuran to replace it, do I need to buy again if refinance?
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180k at 6.25% for remainder 12 years :-

1) RM1779.90/month
2) Interest payable = 76,306.49
3) Total payment inclusive of interest = 256,306.49


180k at 4.1% (assuming 6.5% BLR) for remainder of 12 years :-

1) RM1,584.70/month
2) Interest payable = 48,197.60
3) Total payment inclusive of interest = 228,197.60

Savings = 28,108.89

- update - have checked, you don't need to get MRTA since you already have insurance to replace it.
- upsate - for a ltd time the rate now is BLR - 2.5% (effective rate 4.0%).

This post has been edited by DannyOP: Nov 30 2008, 01:25 PM
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post Nov 30 2008, 01:21 PM

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Just got an update, lowest rate now is BLR - 2.5% at BLR 6.5% so 4.0%for a ltd time. You can put in your request first, then decide once you have the offer. Request is f.o.c

 

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