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Ibrahimovic
post Jan 14 2009, 05:21 PM

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Pergajian Am is the most strictest subject in STPM ( for me). If you got teacher you are new than you might as well don't take the class. PA is quite rubbish as it got 'invisible' rules. A good thing a pemeriksa is in my opposite school.

Lol, even missing the number 0 in graph paper might get you 6/15 even if you do all right.


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post Jan 15 2009, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(DJFoo000 @ Jan 14 2009, 07:28 PM)
It's a pointless subject coz what we're studying is not what it was meant to be. Not labeling the origin does get you 6/15. But title wrong will get you 2/15 if i'm not mistaken. Kena before. For example 'bla bla bla Hingga 2008" but if 2008 is only tahun anggaran but you didn't denote it den straight 2/15. I forgot whether it's 6/15 or 2/15 but the ruling is quite stupid.

Not to mention the passage from which the data was supposedly obtained from is usually messy and ambiguous. Sometimes reading the same sentence twice will give you 2 different way of interpreting the data.
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Yep, its so strict its stupid. The grading system not only discriminate self learning individual but also pendalaman student especially without access to good teacher. A good thing I don't have to memorize all that tips ever again.


QUOTE(yi7117 @ Jan 15 2009, 01:01 PM)
If you are kinda below average student in studies please forget about form 6 you will jz end up wasting your time there....

As people say if no money go study form 6 then enter local U got money study private institute...
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Agree. I already told everyone I know not to take STPM. Its hard and just wasting your time if wanted to continue study in Malaysia. Doing A-Level or Matriculation is much better not to mention easier.

Regret taking STPM. I should have follow my father advice to go to A-Level in Singapore or private.
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post Jan 15 2009, 01:43 PM

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Our Math T is very similar to A-Level but sometimes it could get way harder and more creative thinking needed.

Chemistry is quite hard as you don't have enough time to completly master it unless by going to tuition.

Biology is one of the easier subject. I highly recommended it as the question is straight forward unlike previous years.
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post Jan 16 2009, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(hellrock @ Jan 16 2009, 01:59 AM)
lol.. u just recall back my old f6 memory man.. last time oso think lik wad u think haha.. but tell u wad.. f6 is only for 1nhalf year.. just bear with it.. when u r in uni u can do wadever hairstyle u wan...


Added on January 16, 2009, 2:00 am

yea agreed...


Added on January 16, 2009, 2:06 amand well.. my advise.. don go for f6 if u gt money.. its too tough n time consuming, etc.... go for diploma/ college instead
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Yep I also feel kinda good when ppl tell me that f6 is hard and challenging


QUOTE(invincible1889 @ Jan 16 2009, 02:41 AM)
if u want to study art class,no problem lah.....but if u want to go for science class,u better think twice......

i studied b4 n i knew all those hardship form 6 students hv to go through n hv to study until 3 o clock in the morning.......so think twice......
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The downside is I already started 3 am (4am near the STPM) sleeping routine when entering upper 6. I never thought f6 will take a chuck of my time when I enroll. Most of I thought is that f6 is much cheaper than U's. Well somehow I think that 1 1/2 year the most longest part in my lives especially since I could not do well in the last STPM.
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post Jan 17 2009, 12:08 PM

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You better be. I only start the 3am routine when I discover half of my class already start doing it. The problem is that some of our teacher is not experience enough even to be able to answer STPM question. So most of the time, we must study and figure it ourself.

TIme consuming but you got more brain cell eh?
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post Jan 19 2009, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(Josephine_J @ Jan 17 2009, 04:20 PM)
Advantage: STPM cert is recognised worldwide.

Disadvantage: Some teachers aren't that dedicated.  There are really good teachers too.  Pray that you get them.
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Yeah. Some are and some not. I found that being within the secondary school system mean Form 6 teacher are spread thin by their routine not only teaching Form 6 but also Form 4,5 and 3. They should only be specialise in Form 6 only. BUt some etacher aren't capable enough. Take my Chem teacher. He's a nice person but he could not even answer STPM question we show him. My sympathy for him for applying teacher too soon rather than get the Petronas job when he just enter our school.

QUOTE(Tangiers @ Jan 18 2009, 01:23 AM)
Isn't life supposed to be that way? To reward the hardworking. They deserve it; their hard work create their own luck.
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Yes but sometimes this aren't happpening at least after STPM result are out. Some student can get good courses while a smart student get a lesser ones. I got a ex-schoolmate who get Food Science (or something) rather than being a Pharmacist he really wanted to be. Connection IS important (and race).
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post Jan 20 2009, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(JiaTern @ Jan 19 2009, 11:55 PM)
I am run out of time now so i cant read all 7 pages. But i want to ask and clarify something because I am in dilemma between choosing form6 or other pre-U.

1. After taking STPM, and after the result is out, if i am not selected for IPTA or any local public universities, can i still use the STPM result to apply other private unis/colleges either locally or overseas?

2. Pengajiam AM is in Malay right? Can STPM candidates drop Pengajian Am subject? I know that A-levels can drop General Studies (same as pengajian am), but i don't know STPM can or not.

3. Do STPM candidates need to take english paper? or MUET? is it compulsory?

4. What is the mark for A, B, C and D?

5. The subjects like accounting/physics/chemistry/math etc are in english or malay?

5. How to apply Form 6? (I KNOW THIS IS NOOB QUESTION, BUT I'M LOST HERE, PLEASE HELP ME!)

Thanks yea, waiting for sifus and gurus to answer my questions. Thx again~


Added on January 20, 2009, 12:21 pm

Anyone can enlighten me on these questions please?
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1. 100% Yes. It is internationally recognized. Some even accepted to Harvard.

2. Cannot. Its the core. If you fail it than you're 100% CANNOT enter public university (and private).

3. No but you're certificate will be hold on by university if you don't pass MUET.

4. I forgot but in STPM the A can be lower by 5 point. A=>80 A-=>70

5. You should get a letter from school that you're applicable to Form 6. It can either be your previous school or school in the district. If no one send, just go to the school office to enquiry them about Form 6. It's easy peesy.



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post Jan 20 2009, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(blankQ @ Jan 20 2009, 10:58 PM)
i'm also curious with this....but personally i dont think if you have done stpm you can apply for university admission using spm result because stpm -----> degree whereas spm----->pre U.

I think what the bold line means will be if you did not do well in form 6, say bye bye to local uni only...however, think of it.....if you did badly in stpm, will other universities accept you? except you have money......
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The problem right now is the money. While getting entrance to foreign/private U's is easy, paying it is not. The best thing to do is get a scholarship no matter where you heading to. Korea, Japan etc. have scholarship you could apply to. But than again, expense is needed to live in country. If out of luck with public U's and no money to burn , then just work first.
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post Jan 21 2009, 01:45 PM

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Yes, and believe me when you're in Upper 6 and most of your old buddies in Form 5 getting places in UM/UKM and some even medicine course, you are going to be piss.

I got so many friends in medicine that I never thought they could be one. I think if you heading to course like Pharma, Medicine better take matriculation route. Even top scorer STPM in my school fail to get Pharmacy but a 7A1 SPM who get through Matriculation get Medicine.

I'm piss.
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post Jan 22 2009, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(Ifrits @ Jan 21 2009, 09:05 PM)
hey,
i've got a problem here.
i cannot decide which stream should i take if i am entering form6 this year.
I plan to do something in IT field.
So, is Science subjects a must for me if my interest is IT?
I've asked ppl around me, friends, teacher, seniors. Some of them say I can go art stream even if my interest is IT but some say I MUST go science if my interest is IT.
If possible i want to avoid the science subject. I'm very weak at chemistry but physic is ok.
the f6 school that i will be going made chemistry a must take subject in their science class.
So is there anyone out there that can give me some advice here?
is science subjs needed if my interest is "something" in IT field.
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If you are planning to study in Malaysia and not oversea then Art stream is more than fine. IT field are considered by some as 2nd class so you oppurtunity in getting to IPTA is very high.

If you want to go to oversea like UK then having Mathematics is a plus but again Art stream is also gain acceptance. Try going to your dream college admission webpage for more detail.


QUOTE(yanniieee @ Jan 22 2009, 01:50 AM)
I don't like form6. taking my time.
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Well we all going to said that unless our result is good and our dream courses is in front of us right? biggrin.gif
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post Feb 3 2009, 09:27 PM

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If not just repeat it. I saw many people flunked STPM because the heavy workload.

But IF got money, just go oversea. If not, either take it again or take unwanted course like most of my fren do..
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post Feb 4 2009, 09:54 AM

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Really? I thought IPTA is only exist to make money. So does have money is already good enough? I think sometimes if we don't get the requirement but the seat for that course is still plenty, they just accept the student.

What is the good IT college in M'sia eh?
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post Feb 4 2009, 12:33 PM

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Sorry I meant IPTS not IPTA. I always seem to be confused by that. IPTS = $$$

jarodr9, if STPM+ easy then everyone will still flocking back to their school. But its the one of the best choice for student if he is hardworking.
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post Feb 4 2009, 06:36 PM

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Well you could study on your own so it does'nt matter.
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post Feb 6 2009, 11:43 AM

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Er, nothing new eh? I was very lucky to have only one teacher who can't even solve STPM question which is my Chem teacher. Other are mostly pemeriksa.

Never ever go to Form 6 if most teacher is not qualify. Ask your seniors. Better not waste time as qualify and unqualify is the decisive factor whether you could pass or not in STPM.
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post Feb 6 2009, 11:53 PM

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Well its a good thing I one year early. I know that for every extra class/tuition we had most student already zzz by 2pm.
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post Feb 16 2009, 11:34 PM

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Dude, you just double post...you really need answer eh? I forgot to mention it must have the syllabus if the book thickness is >2 inch. but you gonna die reading/memorize it.
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post Feb 17 2009, 02:06 PM

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Ah, so its still your choice. Best way right now is to talk to people around you on STPM and also diploma/IPTS student.

After careful analysis, go with the one that with your personality. But I bet its too late now...

Good luck!

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post Apr 17 2009, 11:25 AM

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But you could do nothing right? It's life mate.
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post Apr 17 2009, 11:53 AM

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Yep, agree that going outside to other country is a option. But the question remain why our own country cannot accept us for who we are?

Not all people have the money to pay for the cost.When will our country learn it...

Btw, wasn't Najib propose 1Malaysia concept, it's quite an irony.

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