ya, dun come to usm engineering campus.. mushroom will grow on ur head. At least the hostel is a big cc. can play all sorts of game(dota, cz), share movies, series and etc. but other than that, there is no gals, no entertainment, and in the middle of ulu-ulu town..

NOo..... DO NOT GO INTO F6 thinking it's your last choice. You're better off learning some skills. You'll screw not juz yourself but your class as well if you go in thinking it's your last choice. You drag everybody down. If F6 is your last choice, go learn to repair handphones or cars or something.

And why would the difficulty of an exam be the indicator for acceptance? All Pre-U exams are difficult to an extent. They are not easy for a reason. Think about it, after Pre-U it'll be degree and then it'll be the working environment. They has gotta make it hard. It's gonna involve somebody's life or money in some way or another!

Easy way out = foundation (provided you know what to do already)
Bright way out = A levels or STPM
Cheap way out = STPM (or A levels wit a scholarship)
Better way out = ASEAN scholarship or some international scholarship or some scholarship given by some big guns.
Best way out = make your pillow higher and think about it b4 you go to sleep.

i want 2 enter form 6 next year but a dun know how? i took my spm in year 2004.. can i go for public school o private?

huh? why u so late only enter Form 6?

If i'm not sure have to be 2 years upon grad from spm. but you need to call n ensure la..

It's much cheaper compared to other Pre-U courses.
From rough calculation you can settle whole Form 6 within RM 1k, whereas you've to spend maybe up to 10k or more for other courses.

Anyway, STPM is said to be much difficult compared to A Levels, SAM, SAT etc. More effort is needed in order to score well, and depends on your luck, whether you get a dedicated teacher or not.

STPM cert however, is kinda limited to the university within this region, going as far as Aus or NZ.

I am not interested to study in local uni, wat is the benefit of Form 6?
money is not the problem for me, therefore i have 2 choices but i donno which one is better.

Huh? If STPM is so limited, how did my classmate (I'm from STPM) go to Cambridge? And one guy from my neighbouring class get Monbukagakusho Scholarship from Japan? STPM is widely recognized in most if not all Commonwealth countries. You don't even need to translate your cert. Elsewhere, you may need to take additional tests but if you're good in STPM, I can hardly see how other tests can give you too much difficulty.

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Added on December 5, 2008, 4:44 pmF6 is risky because if you're ambitious, you need to score 4.00 (best possible). And you need to be active in cocurricular activities. Scoring 4.00 is not impossible but it's hard. + active in cocu = even harder. You need luck also when it gets to this level. Have you watched 21? If you want to go to the best schools, it is THAT intense. You need to wow the dean.

This post has been edited by Tangiers: Dec 5 2008, 04:46 PM

Yes. A lot of people think anything from Western countries must be the best.

In fact, STPM is so tough and good that they have to create another thing called matriculasi. Now you know why.

Even though I have not taken STPM myself, I think they are even tougher than A Level. With STPM, everything is dependent on that 1 final examination at the end of it. No resit and no split paper taking unlike A Level.

The ONLY reason why you would want to take STPM is because our local public (read...cheap in cost) universities demanded it.

This post has been edited by Optiplex330: Dec 5 2008, 04:48 PM

Hey guys.. I'm going to form 6 next year due to financial issues.
Unfortunately, I know what I wanna study, Architecture. But.. sigh.

Any subjects in form 6 that is relevant or helpful to Architectural studies? Help is greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Hi there,

My two cents about STPM - don't waste your time there. And this is coming from someone who has been there done that. I'm 40 this year and in my school days people go for STPM and almost guaranteed a place in university if they do well. Nowadays, I won't bet on it. STPM is a high standard exam I agree but the reward isn't matching.

If money is a problem, try applying TAR College Kampar. They have a very good schemes for poor students. I know the Dean and they are doing a lot to help students from poor family. The only problem TAR is facing now is students coming in with high SPM/STPM scores but very poor grasp in English. Most are from Chinese schools and when lectures and textbooks are dished out in English, many flop. So, please boys and girls, do well in your English.

As for Architecture, it's an expensive degree. Very expensive, sometimes more expensive that a medical degree. If you go to a "setengah masak" university which is cheap, your degree will not be recognised and no firm will want to hire you because designing a building involves human lives. A good architecture isn't about beauty. First and foremost it's safety. The best uni for architecture today is University of Texas, US. If you can graduate from there, you will have no problem getting a job or run your own firm someday.

and the reason why some do not take STPM is because of its inherent unfairness when applying for local IPTA.
there are many examples I could summon, and race will always be an issue in this land.

It's better to take foundation in any private U already...
Save some time...

Foundation is probably the easiest and fastest. But foundation is the least flexible.

Only do it if:
1. You know which university/country you wanted to go later.
2. What course you wanted to do later.

Otherwise, strongly suggest either STPM or A Levels.

If you can take a good result in UEC,go ahead,it is useful for your university enquirement~
If cant ,go ahead to the collage,wont regret~

Take up physics subject, go to science class..
MUST take physics tuition, its not for the weak minded..

ps. I dropped physics XD

Physic is one of those subject that you either

1. don't get it and it will be hell and you can't even get thro' by memorizing or

2. Understand the concept and it will will truly be a piece of cake. You don't even have to memorize and you still do ok in exam.

IMO, it's a ALL or NON type of subject.

totally agree.... * ex-STPMer here *

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Added on December 7, 2008, 3:19 pmgot $$??? go straight for A-Levels/SAM/Canadian Matriks lar... don't waste ur time in form6... ( unless u can't decide wat u wanna do... )

This post has been edited by moniqee: Dec 7 2008, 03:19 PM

i think physics is a requirement to enter this course in public unis. But if talking about relevancy, no, physics is not helping your course much later. I'm now studying engineering in UPM (currently second year) and my hostel consists of students from the engineering and architecture fields. So i know quite a bit of this course from them

From what I heard from my friends, architecture is a more project based course (still got written paper as well but their weighing is not much, just a little portion) where they normally need to draft the design out, build the model up, show it to their lecturers and after getting the approval from the lecturers they will then need to present to a group of lecturers and be prepared to get bombarded by lots of questions. This course requires a more creative side from the students and not to scare you off, i usually spot them staying up almost all night(for a few days) when assignments and presentations are going to due kesian they always seem busy

If you're good in drawing, creative, and are ready to sleep only few hours everyday then go for this course. But be careful when selecting your course because in UPM, after you have completed the degree course(3 yrs), you are only able to work as an assistant architect, and to eligible to become an architect yourself, you'll need to futher your studies for another 2 years But in other uni such as UKM, you just need to complete the degree course (not sure how many years though but should be 4 yrs) and can become architect.

Another friend of mine who is now studying Building Tech in USM says that his course is also similar to architecture and a lot of projects and assignments.

Well i guess that's all i want to share. If u have any question, feel free to ask~ I'll try my best to answer

and lastly good luck to all out there who are going to opt for f6 path! It isn't as scary as most people say

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Added on December 7, 2008, 11:54 pmi think if you really want to study f6, the only option is to study in private schools or colleges but i'm afraid there's a age limit to sit for stpm. Can't remember well but i think it's somewhere 21-25 yrs old. Maybe i'm wrong though. Good luck to you



This post has been edited by snowy_sharz: Dec 7 2008, 11:54 PM

U can enter local Uni.
save money.
But u x get to study what you want to study.