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SKY 1809
post Dec 2 2008, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Dec 2 2008, 03:40 PM)
KNM is for gorengx3....  biggrin.gif
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Resort World and Genting could be goreng stocks too.


2 sides of a coin.
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post Dec 2 2008, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Dec 2 2008, 03:49 PM)
If you are focus on long term, its a good time to buy for 2-3 months, if you are focus on contra, we still have room to fall.
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I do not think contra is good for us.

Holding 2 to months is not a problem for me so long got chance to make money.

Maybe sell during the CNY.

Thank you.

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post Dec 2 2008, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Dec 2 2008, 04:38 PM)
I'm still waiting my GENTING to break 3.8..... Grrrrr... getting impatient liao.....biggrin.gif
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Nervous breakdown like our doctors hmm.gif
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post Dec 2 2008, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(viper88 @ Dec 2 2008, 06:18 PM)
You might want to read this on last mth article on KNM.
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...icle/index_html

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Bro, your info is a bit outdated.

http://announcements.bursamalaysia.com/EDM...94?OpenDocument
SKY 1809
post Dec 3 2008, 12:16 AM

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2 opinion :-

Why buying warrant at 62sen when there are many stocks at that price are trading at the PE of 4 to 10x 08 or 09 ?

I mean stocks are better to hold for long term than warrants themselves.

Buying warrants are no diff from buying speculative shares. bcos it is not easy to value them, beside the normal expiry dates.

Just my 2sen.



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post Dec 3 2008, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(wirelessdude @ Dec 3 2008, 12:21 AM)
Hahaha... like I said, I just bought it because I noticed they were unusually active and rising.

You're right about stocks rather than warrants! Because apart from YTL Power-WB, I also today bought more Zelan, KNM, Gtronic and Pelikan for the long term. wink.gif
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I personally hold quite a lot of KNM , plan to sell when the price double up.

I read the reports and fundamentally can hold KNM for medium to long term. EPF is holding 7.5%. Small Cap Fund US, just bought 5.8 % last month.

People think it is a goreng stock, but I go for longer period investment.

need some patience to reap the real rewards.

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post Dec 3 2008, 11:28 AM

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Whether you want to take a short term profit or considering longer term view is entirely your own decision.

This thread is not meant to milk fed.

We may expect YTL Power to go up., but it still could refuse to do so.

Judge your own.

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post Dec 3 2008, 11:51 AM

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@ YTL Power

A positive net of 3 or 4 % return before currency risk is a bit low.

One thing about the Singapore Government is they sell their investments like gold, buying up investments at the price of rocks.

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post Dec 3 2008, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(htt @ Dec 3 2008, 11:59 AM)
YTL Power long term play, if want to play short term, this type of counter kills...  yawn.gif


Added on December 3, 2008, 12:02 pm
Also S$ is steadily gaining ground against RM. Remember in the old days they are still at par...
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Again , small investors could chase this stock, but bigger fund managers are selling.
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post Dec 3 2008, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Dec 3 2008, 12:17 PM)
don convert sell off and buy mother share directly...


Added on December 3, 2008, 12:18 pm

The only fund manager i thinking of is EPF...BUYING HEAVILY RECENTLY
citigroup is small compare to EPF is also owning some stake...

This counter is not much play by funds manager
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The small batch Qty, but large sell orders represents Big timers.

Correct me if I am wrong.

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post Dec 3 2008, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(htt @ Dec 3 2008, 12:58 PM)
But conversion also need time mah, 'suey' if market collapse in that time... tongue.gif
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Conversions could be traps that induce you to buy warrants.

Prices collapsed before the conversion completed ( esp during the bear market ).

Just my 2sen from bad experience.

Judge your own.

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post Dec 3 2008, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(viper88 @ Dec 3 2008, 07:57 PM)
Zelan drop back to 0.775. You still not yet sell ur Zelan?

Resort shoot up in morning till about 2.33.. den drop back to abt  2.27/2.28.
Normally end of yr/during CNY  Genting & Resort share will go up.  icon_idea.gif

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Genting and Resort earnings always peak during the CNY.

This is the time where people goreng the most( at the casinos ).

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post Dec 4 2008, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(wongck @ Dec 4 2008, 09:54 AM)
I got a question.

I bought Resorts 20 @ 2.500 then bought another 20 @ 2.200 in contra.

If I sell only 20, will it sell my contra 1 or at 2.500 price 1st?
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As as individual , it is not necessary to follow the best accounting practice.

But the bottom line , you still have to make some profits from the investments.

If you are buying contra at 2.20 and sell at 2.30, then you make an actual profit .

You still can value 2.50 for the stock you keep, though at unrealised loss.

The profit if any from contra gain, could be used to offset 2.50 that you bought earlier, thus lowering your holding cost.

Hope I answer your Q.

Have a good day.

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post Dec 4 2008, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(sampoo @ Dec 4 2008, 10:28 AM)
This kind of pattern is and will repeat again and again over years.  icon_idea.gif
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Where is the saham mana boleh beli one ?

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post Dec 4 2008, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 4 2008, 10:38 AM)
Just read a news saying, MAS, British Airway and Qantas will form an alliance or some kind of merger.

http://www.sinchew.com.my/node/93000?tid=40
Sorry for those can't read in chinese.
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Merger might not be possible in view of NEP, and the bumiputra management.

Just my 2sen.

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QUOTE(sampoo @ Dec 4 2008, 10:53 AM)
ya lol. malaysia gov will definate want to hold 51%.  yawn.gif
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Ya, the best interest for our nation at any costs.
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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Dec 4 2008, 11:08 AM)
oz news reported gov. won't allow qantas be foreign.
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That is the problem of Globalisation in Asia.

They ( the heads of govts ) talk in term of theory, not willing to put into practice.

The main problem : They still want to choose the colors of the cats to be the CEOs.
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Dec 4 2008, 11:13 AM)
Holy Molly..... shall i jump Q?  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Exceptional situation needs exceptional decision.

Normally look before you jump.
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post Dec 4 2008, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Dec 4 2008, 11:23 AM)
good time to accumulate tongue.gif.....i like this condition....let it stabilize.....n hopefully it will recover slowly fr here....well....guess i'm more of a long-term guy tongue.gif

btw.....BAT is superb.....*sigh* too xpensive for me though
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Your year end bonus should be good > eyeing on BAT. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 4 2008, 11:35 AM)
Tension and depressed in market crash and economy recession, smoke even more... sweat.gif
So good for tobacoo business.

Alcohol business for Guiness also rising, as Guiness reported good sales and earning.
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Malaysians are peaceful people, not simply demonstrating at Airports, if they are not happy with the Govt.

Worst case scenario is to get themselves drunk, and yet they want to ban it . biggrin.gif

Soon cars also cannot take 4 people at the back. icon_question.gif Safety comes first, economy comes later.

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