Hi Bel, how are you?

well, when everywhere is selling at the similar price for similar total square feet, it doesn't matter anymore whether the price is overpriced or not, because consumer just have no choice, right, LOL.

If you take a look at the design, is it really that bad? If not, it can't be lousy. Unknown? does it matter? everyone has to start somewhere!

I think overall DPC has done a fabulous job. Expensive? Many people have complaint about this from day one, myself included. Now, as other areas have caught up, I don't believe they are anymore. You pay for what you get at the end of the day.

This post has been edited by desastar: Dec 14 2012, 11:04 AM

If only DPC is not open to public, then it will be a wonderful place.
Now even pak hitam is lurking around at night, cycling there on weekend. Now even noticed a PH drove a myvvi out from Adiva in the morning... maybe rich PH can start to rent/stay in DPC...

Visitor/resident driving in DPC is like driving in Sepang Circuit.. I'm just waiting for 1 fine day a major accident to happen at the first round about from LDP entry.

Morning traffic to LDP - horrible/terrible with more cars coming from Manjalara side.

Expensive - Yes.. and still is
Overprice - Yes.. and still is
Nice place to stay - yes... 4-5 years ago.

This post has been edited by Senseless: Dec 14 2012, 01:04 PM

@debbieyss,
Er.. U replied to a post from 2009?!!! And you're right - consumer always have a choice! How are U?! U looking for a house to buy now?

I only knew that I replied to an old post after clicking the "Add Reply" button..

Ya, looking for a house to buy.

@debbieyss,
And at DPC? Ah well.. my house buying days are over; no more funds *grins* so I probably ain't the best person to ask since I haven't been monitoring the market. Also been travelling a lot this year so a bit out of touch lah

Not typically interested in DPC; regardless the pricing, I do agreed DPC is a nice place to stay in.

Private park wud be nice but costly to mantained. Biz at Waterfront wud hv a tough time surviving also.

If one were to cash out of DPC, where to find a place with a similiar environment, no traffic jam and cheaper to live. Any suggestions?

Cheers

Setia Eco Park

Setia Eco Glades > YouTube it :"Setia Eco glades concept video". Enjoy!

Firstly not cheap. Can be a bit out of the way if you are working in KL. No jam? Unlikely. Shops and amenities not within walking distance.

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Added on December 15, 2012, 12:20 amNot cheap also. Getting into KL, in the morning, no traffic congestion? Unlikely. Shops and amenities not within walking distance also.

Only have one of the smaller unit in DPC. After selling, sales proceed still not enough to get a unit in SEP or SEG

This post has been edited by urbanite: Dec 15 2012, 12:38 AM

Casaman built until how now?
Price 1.7 million now looks cheap

Fr outside, the club house look awesome to me. Landscape is good.

Cant get at 1.7m now. But purchasers should feel blessed with their decision 3 yrs ago.

How good if there is something like DPC in the enclave of Puchong Bdr Kinrara, Bukit Jalil and Subang Jaya/USJ.

Really like to concept and environment but dislike the location.

Wondering wat are the upcoming phases. If too many high end condos, it doesnt bring more exclusivity features in the future.

I think all DPC owners dislike more high rise project in future but Dev might find it hard to maintain the same quality in term of safety n landscape etc etc if they dun get the fund supported by more units. Therefore I blif there ll b more units built in which onli high rise can achieve it.

Quite agree with u.

The number of units in highrise contribute higher built up per land lot capita. It would be a help for developer or management to get furthrr higher funds but the more of highrises, the density is become higher, so, the landed owners sure feel uneasy of the lost of exclusive living where too many neighbours of them.

DPC township is designed using the new urbanism concept. It is not meant to be low density. If low density is what you are looking for, SEP would be a better choice.

Among the features of new urbanism

The principles of urbanism can be applied increasingly to projects at the full range of scales from a single building to an entire community.

1. Walkability

-Most things within a 10-minute walk of home and work
-Pedestrian friendly street design (buildings close to street; porches, windows & doors; tree-lined streets; on street parking; hidden parking lots; garages in rear lane; narrow, slow speed streets)
-Pedestrian streets free of cars in special cases


2. Connectivity

-Interconnected street grid network disperses traffic & eases walking
-A hierarchy of narrow streets, boulevards, and alleys
-High quality pedestrian network and public realm makes walking pleasurable

3. Mixed-Use & Diversity

-A mix of shops, offices, apartments, and homes on site. Mixed-use within neighborhoods, within blocks, and within buildings
-Diversity of people - of ages, income levels, cultures, and races

4. Mixed Housing

A range of types, sizes and prices in closer proximity


5. Quality Architecture & Urban Design

Emphasis on beauty, aesthetics, human comfort, and creating a sense of place; Special placement of civic uses and sites within community. Human scale architecture & beautiful surroundings nourish the human spirit


6. Traditional Neighborhood Structure

-Discernable center and edge
-Public space at center
-Importance of quality public realm; public open space designed as civic art
-Contains a range of uses and densities within 10-minute walk
-Transect planning: Highest densities at town center; progressively less dense towards the edge. The transect is an analytical system that conceptualizes mutually reinforcing elements, creating a series of specific natural habitats and/or urban lifestyle settings. The Transect integrates environmental methodology for habitat assessment with zoning methodology for community design. The professional boundary between the natural and man-made disappears, enabling environmentalists to assess the design of the human habitat and the urbanists to support the viability of nature. This urban-to-rural transect hierarchy has appropriate building and street types for each area along the continuum.


7. Increased Density

-More buildings, residences, shops, and services closer together for ease of walking, to enable a more efficient use of services and resources, and to create a more convenient, enjoyable place to live.
-New Urbanism design principles are applied at the full range of densities from small towns, to large cities


8. Green Transportation

-A network of high-quality trains connecting cities, towns, and neighborhoods together
-Pedestrian-friendly design that encourages a greater use of bicycles, rollerblades, scooters, and walking as daily transportation


9. Sustainability

-Minimal environmental impact of development and its operations
-Eco-friendly technologies, respect for ecology and value of natural systems
-Energy efficiency
-Less use of finite fuels
-More local production
-More walking, less driving

10. Quality of Life

Taken together these add up to a high quality of life well worth living, and create places that enrich, uplift, and inspire the human spirit.

BENEFITS OF URBANISM


1. BENEFITS TO RESIDENTS

Higher quality of life; Better places to live, work, & play; Higher, more stable property values; Less traffic congestion & less driving; Healthier lifestyle with more walking, and less stress; Close proximity to main street retail & services; Close proximity to bike trails, parks, and nature; Pedestrian friendly communities offer more opportunities to get to know others in the neighborhood and town, resulting in meaningful relationships with more people, and a friendlier town; More freedom and independence to children, elderly, and the poor in being able to get to jobs, recreation, and services without the need for a car or someone to drive them; Great savings to residents and school boards in reduced busing costs from children being able to walk or bicycle to neighborhood schools; More diversity and smaller, unique shops and services with local owners who are involved in community; Big savings by driving less, and owning less cars; Less ugly, congested sprawl to deal with daily; Better sense of place and community identity with more unique architecture; More open space to enjoy that will remain open space; More efficient use of tax money with less spent on spread out utilities and roads

2. BENEFITS TO BUSINESSES

Increased sales due to more foot traffic & people spending less on cars and gas; More profits due to spending less on advertising and large signs; Better lifestyle by living above shop in live-work units - saves the stressful & costly commute; Economies of scale in marketing due to close proximity and cooperation with other local businesses; Smaller spaces promote small local business incubation; Lower rents due to smaller spaces & smaller parking lots; Healthier lifestyle due to more walking and being near healthier restaurants; More community involvement from being part of community and knowing residents

3. BENEFITS TO DEVELOPERS

More income potential from higher density mixed-use projects due to more leasable square footage, more sales per square foot, and higher property values and selling prices; Faster approvals in communities that have adopted smart growth principles resulting in cost / time savings; Cost savings in parking facilities in mixed-use properties due to sharing of spaces throughout the day and night, resulting in less duplication in providing parking; Less need for parking facilities due to mix of residences and commercial uses within walking distance of each other; Less impact on roads / traffic, which can result in lower impact fees; Lower cost of utilities due to compact nature of New Urbanist design; Greater acceptance by the public and less resistance from NIMBYS; Faster sell out due to greater acceptance by consumers from a wider product range resulting in wider market share

4. BENEFITS TO MUNICIPALITIES

Stable, appreciating tax base; Less spent per capita on infrastructure and utilities than typical suburban development due to compact, high-density nature of projects; Increased tax base due to more buildings packed into a tighter area; Less traffic congestion due to walkability of design; Less crime and less spent on policing due to the presence of more people day and night; Less resistance from community; Better overall community image and sense of place; Less incentive to sprawl when urban core area is desirable; Easy to install transit where it's not, and improve it where it is; Greater civic involvement of population leads to better governance

This post has been edited by urbanite: Dec 17 2012, 06:11 AM

Excellent explanation.

I think we have to be realistic here. In a place like KL, we want exclusive use of facilities, no traffic, low density, convenience and reasonable pricing?? I think that would be a dream in ANY city. Density is something we cannot escape from. This fortunately, brings ammenities that we all need. At the moment, I can't think of another place like DPC where you can walk out of your house/apartment and not be on a busy road/street. Nice walkways around the lake, walk to shops and restaurants without having to drive out if you don't feel like it.

This post has been edited by desastar: Dec 17 2012, 08:03 AM

true that..