I've tried to play DMC 4, NFS MW, NFS Carbon, and NFS ProStraeet in Vista. But I'm experiencing lagging when playing these games. However, out of 10 times, there's only one time I am not experiencing lagging problem in DMC 4. Also, I've defrag and run virus scan also on my comp,close most of the background application when playing the games, and even use lowest setting to play yet I still experienced lagging problem. Anything wrong with my comp spec? or? Also, I heard some say that is because Vista causing the games to run slow..hmm

My current comp spec are:
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.66GHz
4Gb of RAM
GeForce 9800GTX+
Wind Vista 64bit
500GB SATA HDD

Please help!
Thanks.

ADd on: I've tried those games in my machine but was in Wind XP Pro and there's no lagging problem though I adjust all setting to High. (still wondering y there's lagging problem in Vista 64bit)

This post has been edited by insane77: Nov 13 2008, 04:55 PM

all drivers and DirectX installed???

That's not true, I also use 64-bit Vista, 4GB Ram and slightly slower CPU (Xeon 2.33ghz) than you. I don't experience lagging in DMC4, NFS MW, NFS Carbon, but NFS ProStreet is giving me hard time, it's just lag. Can you list out what program is running in Task Manager?

I've tested DMC4, FC2, CSS and most of it doesn't lag.
You should check your task manager see which application is using the most memory.

Don't incluse CSS in lor, CSS is old game, with your 4850 sure no lag...

Ok la. But in Assassin Creed I do feel some bottlenecking. Maybe my proc problem.

But with TS specs shouldn't be any lag in gaming.

Same here, Assassin Creed lags on me too... I'm not sure what happened, it's not like I crank up to highest setting. Btw, Ts is quiet, is it solved already?

Ya, all installed plus updated...

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Added on November 13, 2008, 5:19 pmanyway for me to list it without typing one by one coz quite a number of it..hmm..

This post has been edited by insane77: Nov 13 2008, 05:19 PM

That's a fairly powerful rig for gaming. When you say 'lag' I wonder how many fps you are expecting... or its noticable slowdowns.

I wanted to say "perhaps background apps eating up your memory", but 4Gigs - thats plenty good...

Memory leak via a third party app ? Run some diagnostics... Or maybe a driver issue.

Patch your games too - these games may not fully take advantage of the new 9800 GTX GPU...



This post has been edited by defaultname365: Nov 15 2008, 01:54 AM

Fairly powerful but perhaps not powerful enough..

I've a processor oc'ed to 3.2ghz, sometimes when the mobo revert the fsb back to default 2.0ghz (bug), I got less than 25fps mostly in assassin creed with 4850.. Of course the graphic setting was at the highest so it understandably lags.

"and even use lowest setting to play yet I still experienced lagging problem. "
Just reread your post, seems like something is up. Try update your graphic driver?

Actually patched already..

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Added on November 15, 2008, 2:25 amUpdated..

This post has been edited by insane77: Nov 15 2008, 02:25 AM

you can printscreen can you?

Ya, I can..hmm..

so far im not experienced any prob / lagged while playing games with my vista 32-bit...but u 64-bit, i dunno if ther any diff...but most probably cos of driver i think and direct x...

But he has a very powerful gaming computer...how come still got a bit of lag... hmmm?

I am wondering also..hmm

I can guaranteed its third party apps slowing him down... a desktop screenshot of usual programs or system monitor screenshot would be tremendously helpful. Oddly, still no screenshot ?

What's your score at Vista?

Did you mean rating? 5.5...

Windows Experience Index 5.5 is pretty good.

I play Company of Heroes, SBK08, NFS Prostreet with my Vista 64 bit pc powered by AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (2.6GHz), Asus M2A-VM mobo, 4GB of Kingston DDR800 RAM, Sapphire ATI HD3650 512 MB DDR2 graphic & 160GB Maxtor SATA HD. Have no problem to play the game except graphic option have to be set to medium level since my graphic is not quite powerful enough to render in the highest mode. Do you update your Vista? Are your hardware component installed correctly or does your pc suffer from overheating? Sometime overheating can cause your pc to run slow.

This post has been edited by dulux78: Nov 19 2008, 01:40 PM

maybe u should improve your cooling system.

how about leave your casing open.

Leaving the casing open will make fans and components inside collecting dust, thus resulting overheating problem too...

Either change casing or mod the current casing to be able to put more fan =)

how about maximizing resources?
if u're using AMD then try out AMD Fusion?
it closes/terminates the unnessecary programmes and exe..

i haf no problem when playing in wind xp...

I would suggest:-

1. Turn off superfetch in Services to free all the memory
2. Limit virtual memory to 3GB
3. Check if memory remapping is enabled in bios
4. Apply SP1 if still havent update.
5. Install latest Nvidia WQHL drivers

If all done still same, reformat I would suggest.

i have c2d e8400, 2x2GB Ocz ram, 4850, 320gb 7200.11 HDD

what i want to ask all, is should i get Vista or XP Pro?
I heard that the gaming performance on vista is much much better now. Really?

I'm doing graphic designs in Photoshop, Illustrator, CorelDraw and things of that kind, not 3d though.

I'm also quite a hardcore gamer and is XP REALLY better than Vista???
What is the diff between 64 and 32 bit version? compatibility issues?

yup, gaming on vista is really much more improved since its release. u'll even get access to DX10 for more eye-candy effects.LOL. u have a good comp spec there, vista should run flawlessly..

Most probably due to you running crapload of programs. Now top it up with the bloat Vista is(sorry fanboys, the truth). My brother's PC takes 3 minutes to 5 minutes to just boot due to the insane amount of programs. Games like O2Mania(O2Jam emulator, don't ask where, sorry mods, I don't have a better example. Stepmania might be another, but I've never tried) is a GREAT indicator to see if you're lagging or not. 400 fps(gc nowadays should do 1.5k fps on that game anyway) with stutters can tell you a lot about lag.

One thing I do know, Kaspersky lags me (and is also the cause of why I experience keyboard input lag on O2Mania on my brother's PC). Try NOD32(though they aren't cheap in Malaysia so you have to use the "other" way) Antivirus (their firewall sucks, so don't bother).

Try RUN>type msconfig and press enter.

There you can disable a LOT of unneeded start up items etc. Many programs like to have their programs run at windows startup even if they are not important at all, so are the services(why the hell can't they just ON the services when their programs are actually RUN!? Try not to touch any Microsoft services).

One stop solution would be of course, reformat.

Aero Glass might affect the performance as well(it might be turned off during gaming but the services won't, see?)

This post has been edited by blindbox: Nov 23 2008, 12:18 PM

maybe you never heard of vLite? Your brother's PC sucks to boot in 3 to 5 minutes. I have loads of startup programs and doesn't reach 2 minutes booting time...

Hmm.. With 5.5 and still lag? Something is not right here. I have 3.9 and my games are running river smooth.

Thats wat i dont understand..lol

reformat maybe...fresh install..

graphic driver all install?...latest?..^^..

Uninstall the display driver, then use driversweeper to remove any remaining files, reinstall the display driver. This works for me when i experience lagging in crysis dx10.

Your current comp spec are:
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.66GHz
4Gb of RAM
GeForce 9800GTX+
Wind Vista 64bit
500GB SATA HDD

Mine..
Intel C2D e6550 2.33ghz
2Gb 800mhz
Ati eah3650
Win Vista Ulti 32bit
250GB sata

Wont lag when playing
*Brother in arms hells highways
*NFS undercover
*Red Alert 3
with a i think optimum setting la...

i dont know y u must play in max setting...
medium and high dint hv any different
just the quality of something...like "a wooden box"..

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Added on November 26, 2008, 3:33 pmdont belif what the vista say...
5.5...
last time i got 5.3 on that gaming rig..
but after i format it 'fresh install' i got
4.6..


This post has been edited by AlexLee277: Nov 26 2008, 03:33 PM

i've tried to set all in low, but still experienced the same thing..btw, y mz play in max sett? coz i PAY FOR IT!!n i am being very particular in visual and audio

I agree that you must play in "MAX" settings because you paid for it and it's your right to enjoy it! Please update your graphics card drivers and maybe update the games if there's patches available...

Oh well, I've done tat too..hmm..

Bro, please try playing the games @ "Highest" and "Lowest" setting with Windows DreamScene turned off and Windows Basic theme activated (don't use Aero). I'll probably be going to sleep soon so I'll reply you tomorrow. Best if you PM me your answer and I'll answer tomorrow morning or ASAP.

I had a problem similar same problem, average of 12 fps on COD4 and 28+ for far cry2, both tested at high and low setting.

However, Dead Space, fallout 3, left 4 dead, Optimal Setting smooth to the max. Just recently bought this rig when study aboard..

The only solution i came up with is, don play COD4 n farcry 2 .

Well, at least you can live with that solution but I doubt TS and I can live with that solution.

Well, sometime u just have to let it go... far cry 2 isn't that good btw, so i can live with that... but cod4, it a good multiplayer game.. miss it alot.. but just have to live with the fact.

Don't forget, TS paid a lot for his graphics card. Why should he pay for something that should work and end-up not being able to enjoy it?

driver problem???

btw, Aero will disable itself when u launch a full screen program...

Can't be driver problem as the TS has mentioned numerous amounts of times that he has updated graphics card driver. Thanks for telling me that Aero will disable itself. Honestly speaking, I never knew that.

No it's not. At least not for me.

Guys, I'm quite confuse now. Does Aero disable itself when a full-screen program is launched? Hey "Astria", did you get Aero mixed up with "Windows DreamScene" because as far as I know, "Windows Dreamscene" disables itself on my PC in Vista when I launch full-screen programs.

no i did not...

everytime when i launch a game, i would see Aero switch to Basic first...

and when i alt-tab out, i would see Basic as well, need to wait a while before it switches to Aero...

Windows dreamscene will pauses for me, but not Aero glass. It still turned on while I run fullscreen program. How did I know? Vista take some times (around 2-5 seconds) to switch from Aero glass to Aero basic, but ALT+TAB from game to desktop is less than 1 second...

Hmm, I don't know why but I never see my theme changing, same goes for "FarCry3r" (He also never experience themes changing).

Me too, Windows DreamScene will pause for me.

Maybe it all depends on the graphic hardware itself.

haha, maybe it's becuz i ve lousy hardware...

Can't be just because of lousy hardware. I've got a "testing" rig with:
Intel P4 3.0GHz, 2 X 2GB KVR DDR1, 2X 320GB HDD, ASUS P4P800 Deluxe, ASUS nVidia GeForce FX5600XT 256MB. That's what I call lousy hardware compared to my gaming rig but it still doesn't automatically switch my Aero interface to Basic interface.

Then what did caused Vista to switch over from glass to basic?

or maybe did u update ur drivers.... nvidia launched forceware 180.** so dat driver pretty boosts up my gpu

Most of us have updated drivers.

i encounter before lagging when gaming on vista.
if play FPS game like CoD, Fallout3, it will lag if i press certain button for a long time. (in this case "w" button to move forward)
then after look at keyboard character repeat rate, it was set to slow. then i set it to fast and problem solved

Very good advice, I learnt a new trick for you.
PS: I'm not being sarcastic.

For me, almost every game that I ran shut off Vista Aero theme after launching. If it doesn't, then in the compatibility tab tick the 'Disable desktop composition'. It will work.

Anyway, I'm using ForceWare 180.43.

Thanks for the reply. I tried ticking "Disable Desktop Composition" and it does switch my Aero theme to Basic theme.

maybe your processor not using full power..try change to high performance in power setting in control panel