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J'Daniel
post Jan 7 2009, 11:53 AM

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Anyone practice to make payment on the billing cycle date itself ?

I always do that. But it reminds me of something now ...
Normally I pay on the billing cycle date, and I will ignore the statement bill.

I afraid if I make certain amount on the cut off date itself, then maybe the system is slow or what ... it capture late.

Since if I paid on cut off date and system slow, and I ignore the bills ... that would cause me lots of late payment already

Hope someone can clarify this

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post Jan 12 2009, 10:46 PM

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If I spend >50% of my cc each month .. and I pay more than 40% every month ... can I consider as big spender ?

Possible to upgrade card to higher standard ?

Currently using MBB and Cimb
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post Jan 13 2009, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(Phoeni_142 @ Jan 12 2009, 11:00 PM)
Used to do cards a bit in my past life.  A bit rusty - but take this with a +/- 10% deviation.

1.  From the bank's perspective - 50% of your utilization every month is considered fairly good.  The average industry utilization rate is approx 30%.  This means you spend more than the industry from a utilization of credit limit perspective. 

2.  If you pay more than 40% every month - loosely speaking - you revolve on about 10% of your balances.  Banks would still classify you as a Transactor (TR).  the three other classes are Occasional Revolver (OR), Mid revolver (MR) and High Revolver (HR).  TR's pay in full or 90%.  Conversely, HR's revolve on 90% of their spending.  Again - from a very simplistic manner - banks prefer non delinquent MR and HR customers - as they contribute more to the bank's bottomline.

3.  For card upgrades - some banks do so automatically, using their scoring standards.  Having said that, they also do take into account your spending and repayment patters.  For your case - since u are the one that's initiating an upgrade - the bank will normally request for more information. e.g. payslip (if your pay has increased) or another card with a higher credit limit (to bank derive your income).
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Thanks for your explanation biggrin.gif

Just would like to clarify how does the spending method of High Revolver ? For Transactor, it mean that I carry forward balance each month right ? So which type of classes do you think bank prefer more ?

And does my spending places contribute to card upgrade or CL ? Like I always purchase thing in XXX, always use cash withdrawal and etc etc


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post Jan 15 2009, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(J'Daniel @ Jan 13 2009, 12:53 PM)
Thanks for your explanation biggrin.gif

Just would like to clarify how does the spending method of High Revolver ? For Transactor, it mean that I carry forward balance each month right ? So which type of classes do you think bank prefer more ?

And does my spending places contribute to card upgrade or CL ? Like I always purchase thing in XXX, always use cash withdrawal and etc etc
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post Jan 26 2009, 11:28 AM

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Anyone really check the calculation of finance charges and interest ?

I wonder how they count it, can I request for the calculation statement of finance charges ?

My bill was too messup and I dont know the interest is for which period, transaction and so on

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post Jan 26 2009, 01:32 PM

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I also pay on time but did not make full payment ...

Most probably is 30~50% of outstanding
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post Jan 29 2009, 11:52 AM

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I always use up to limit RM4k by the month. And I'll pay RM2k once the bill cutoff date reach ...; and within the month I'll use Rm2k again

And there the cycle continues ...

Does this shows bad credit etc ? I hope bank will increase my limit and upgrade in near future biggrin.gif
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post Jan 29 2009, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(Phoeni_142 @ Jan 29 2009, 12:49 PM)
No - this doesn't necessarily show bad credit from the bank's perspective.  However, pls understand that u know best how to manage your own finances....Not my right to ask u to relook into your spending patterns etc.

Just to share my opinion SOLELY based on the bank's point of view.

1.  U don't have bad credit provided u pay the min 5% due each time - which u do considering u pay 50% of your debt consistently.

2.  Banks LOVE customers like you.  Who consistenly spend 4K every month (I'm not too sure what your CL is)....But assuming it's 10K - u spend 40% of your limit every month.  Everytime you spend 4K - the bank earns about RM 48 in Interchange Fees per month.  My friend - they get approx RM 576 per year from you, just from your spending ALONE. This does not even include Interest from your revolving balances.

3.  You revolve consistenly every month - assuming u have not been delinquent - the bank earns 15% on your outstanding.  Of course, the bank loves you.

4.  If u really need to increase your CL - just state that the facts above....should be a good basis for a review.  Unfortunately, the bank may be a Bit*h and ask for supporting docs.....
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Thanks Phoeni_132 for your humble opinion rclxms.gif

I knew I let the bank earn quite some of my interest brows.gif My CL is RM5k combined limit from MBB. Usually my outstanding limit will stick around RM4k~RM4.5k . I'll pay RM2k, and I'll use RM2k again ... so I'll always have outstanding around RM4k by my cutoff date.

However, for my CIMB, it depends. I have outstanding around RM3k. Sometimes I use Rm2k, I pay RM1k. Sometimes I use another RM1k, but I pay RM300 (if financial low) But I always pay on time and never pay min ....

The reason I afraid bank see me in bad debt is because, CCRIS report will shows my outstanding balance. I've got mine got BNM and see all outstanding that I owe bank. That's the reason Im curious lol

Thanks again !! icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 30 2009, 07:02 PM

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For TnG Zing card, any way to avoid being charge RM2.00 ? Its gonna charge if the TnG below RM50 right ?

So I need to keep topup using CC before my balance reach Rm50 ?
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post Jan 30 2009, 08:05 PM

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Yeah agreed RM2 is kinda expensive ....

However there is no other choice to topup TnG using credit card. Most of the petrol station accept cash only

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post Jan 30 2009, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 30 2009, 09:52 PM)
Touch&Go Centre at KL Sentral.

I topped up RM 200 last month.
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Yea but that's kinda far lol.
As I know, KL Sentral and Faber Tower only accept topup using CC

Guys, for increase CL ... normally you have to fill in the form and state the amount you need right ? Let say my current CL is RM5k. I put there RM10k
Is the bank going to reject straight if amount too high ? Or is the bank going to increase lower amount automatically ?


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post Jan 31 2009, 04:11 PM

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Guys, for increase CL ... normally you have to fill in the form and state the amount you need right ?

Let say my current CL is RM5k. I put there RM10k
Is the bank going to reject straight if amount too high ? Or is the bank going to increase lower amount automatically ?
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post Feb 3 2009, 12:16 PM

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For increase CL ... normally you have to fill in the form and state the amount you need right ?

Let say my current CL is RM5k. I put there RM10k
Is the bank going to reject straight if amount too high ? Or is the bank going to increase lower amount automatically ?

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post Feb 6 2009, 05:34 PM

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I encounter from my friends experience, maybank tend to give wrong cards to you
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post Feb 7 2009, 05:10 PM

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I wonder does transaction in genting will affect CL increment or upgrade ? hmm.gif
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post Feb 8 2009, 09:59 AM

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I got annual fixed income about 35k per annum, confirmed staff
If nett salary, consider about 42k p.a due to some un-fixed allowances but consistantly average 3.5k per month
However I work <1 year in this company and no EA form

Holding 2 CC with other bank, owing about rm5~7k in total ... but I pay rm2~3k each month

Am i qualify for HSBC gold card ?
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post Feb 8 2009, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(Phoeni_142 @ Feb 7 2009, 06:11 PM)
Depends on the tripwire's of the banks.

Normally, there are 2 transactions which will "arouse" a bank's suspicion.

1.  Cash Advance - Please be very careful here.  A huge cash advance vs. your credit limit will normally indicate that u are of a higher risk profile.

2.  Consistently high utilization of your credit limit - normally consistent usage of at least 85% or more of your credit limit would indicate that u are quite a risky player.

3.  Point 3 is subjective.  For instance, some banks may have some "tripwires" in place for high-risk or fraudulent transactions....e.g. Overseas travel or bulk purchase of jewellery.  Don't think it will really affect your risk profile here though - just affects your convenience.
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Thanks a bunch notworthy.gif

I'd say that I use quite number of cash advance here ... confirm the bank going to see me as high risk profile sweat.gif
I normally use cash advance in Genting about 2~3k ... and my CL is 5k
But I will pay like 2k each month, no late payment sad.gif

It seem like u so got so detail about the risk thingy .. r u working in bank ? unsure.gif

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post Feb 8 2009, 10:26 PM

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Even I look as high risk doing lots of withdrawal, but I still paid at least 50% every month. Don't the bank see me as good source of income to the bank ? unsure.gif

For mortgage or loan application, I guess only the bank Im holding cards will be able to see my transaction details right ?
Other bank can see my CCRIS ( how many cards im holding, total outstanding, late pymt n etc) only ... correct me if i wrong

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