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post Nov 11 2008, 07:36 PM, updated 17y ago

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Currently I drive Pronton Wira 1.5 Year 2005. I would like to know the way how to increase performace.

Isn't got some additional stuff or component to increase the car horse power performace?
Got any way to modify engine or gear box to increase the car horse power performace?
Please inform the shop name, address and telephone (in Johore area)

Please introduce and advise to me........... thanks

Please refer to my car engine photo as your reference.
1) original engine and gear box
2) add E-Power for stabil voltage of spark plug
3) Micro Compresor
4) Simota open pod air filter
5) Normal brand of spark plug cable
6) NGK G-Power spark plug
7) 4-2-1 type extractor, normal brand of midbox, Exhaust piping 1.7" & s-flow type muffler
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post Nov 11 2008, 07:41 PM

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pump V-power..will increase ur performance a bit more..
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post Nov 11 2008, 07:44 PM

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Lowert ur car, widen ur wheels, big sport rims. gt wing. carbon fibre hood, sidemirror, trunk, remove rear seat.
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post Nov 11 2008, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(chyu89 @ Nov 11 2008, 07:44 PM)
Lowert ur car, widen ur wheels, big sport rims. gt wing. carbon fibre hood, sidemirror, trunk, remove rear seat.
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i thought must use those wheel that is not wide..use those sotong tire will some how increase the performance..
wheel wide = heavy = performance not good = braking good
wheel not wide = light = performance good = braking not good..

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post Nov 11 2008, 07:47 PM

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u can put turbo
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post Nov 11 2008, 08:00 PM

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mivec engine + turbo
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post Nov 11 2008, 08:02 PM

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In order to make it top performance.. You can add in another engine at the back of the car
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post Nov 11 2008, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(BlaBlaBoy @ Nov 11 2008, 08:02 PM)
In order to make it top performance.. You can add in another engine at the back of the car
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.....Reverse gear can go up to 5 gears..
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post Nov 11 2008, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(soyaben86 @ Nov 11 2008, 07:47 PM)
i thought must use those wheel that is not wide..use those sotong tire will some how increase the performance..
wheel wide = heavy = performance not good = braking good
wheel not wide = light = performance good = braking not good..
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post Nov 11 2008, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(BlaBlaBoy @ Nov 11 2008, 08:02 PM)
In order to make it top performance.. You can add in another engine at the back of the car
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that is a good idea man..front wheel use front engine..back wheel use back engine..1 break down..got another 1..not bad..not bad..
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QUOTE(chyu89 @ Nov 11 2008, 07:44 PM)
Lowert ur car, widen ur wheels, big sport rims. gt wing. carbon fibre hood, sidemirror, trunk, remove rear seat.
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post Nov 11 2008, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(evangelion @ Nov 11 2008, 07:36 PM)
Currently I drive Pronton Wira 1.5 Year 2005. I would like to know the way how to increase performace.

Isn't got some additional stuff or component to increase the car horse power performace?
Got any way to modify engine or gear box to increase the car horse power performace?
Please inform the shop name, address and telephone (in Johore area)

Please introduce and advise to me........... thanks

Please refer to my car engine photo as your reference.
1) original engine and gear box
2) add E-Power for stabil voltage of spark plug
3) Micro Compresor
4) Simota open pod air filter
5) Normal brand of spark plug cable
6) NGK G-Power spark plug
7) 4-2-1 type extractor, normal brand of midbox, Exhaust piping 1.7" & s-flow type muffler
[attachmentid=667520]
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svdo 4g15 engine hmm...

there are alot alot more stuff u can do to add performance to ur engine.... but first state what is ur budget.... den we go along with that...
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post Nov 11 2008, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(evangelion @ Nov 11 2008, 07:36 PM)
Currently I drive Pronton Wira 1.5 Year 2005. I would like to know the way how to increase performace.

Isn't got some additional stuff or component to increase the car horse power performace?
Got any way to modify engine or gear box to increase the car horse power performace?
Please inform the shop name, address and telephone (in Johore area)

Please introduce and advise to me........... thanks

Please refer to my car engine photo as your reference.
1) original engine and gear box
2) add E-Power for stabil voltage of spark plug
3) Micro Compresor
4) Simota open pod air filter
5) Normal brand of spark plug cable
6) NGK G-Power spark plug
7) 4-2-1 type extractor, normal brand of midbox, Exhaust piping 1.7" & s-flow type muffler
[attachmentid=667520]
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EFI engine? u should have refrain yourself from the above mods earlier and save money to buy unichip. port & polish the head and side gap & index a normal spark plug instead of going for expensive plugs.

Open pod filter stuck inside a heated engine bay perform worst than the stock air filter.
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post Nov 11 2008, 09:34 PM

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I want to use back the orignal engine and gear box but can do modification........... no change to turbo or mivec.

What stuff can be add to my car and can increase the performance?

Please introduce the stuff (included price) or type of modification (included cost). Thank you.

Current budget is around RM1K.
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post Nov 11 2008, 09:34 PM

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your engine very clean.

Well let us know your budget 1st. if its a high budget, we would suggest transplant
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post Nov 11 2008, 09:40 PM

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Vervain, thanks..........

wash engine around 2 months 1 time...........
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post Nov 11 2008, 09:41 PM

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not much can do with 1k budget, engine transplant and turbo also cannot, maybe u can try to change the hood to carbon fiber, but that doesn't improve much in performance...

how bout placing the open pod to the front of the car?



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post Nov 11 2008, 09:43 PM

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1k can go for those 2nd hand CF hood..car lighter..performace better..also if those hood got scoop..maybe will help ur car cooling better..
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post Nov 11 2008, 09:44 PM

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blackpc,

may i know where to buy the unichip. port? how much?

Even use back the stock air filter, it will be suck the air inside of engine because the pipe is inside of engine too (near the head lamp area).
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u can DIY a hole at ur front grill there..then from the hole u put a tube..so there is more CAI for your car..there is a thread about air filter already open..u can search..
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post Nov 11 2008, 09:48 PM

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may i know where to buy 2nd hand CF hood in Johor area? how much?


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can you explain more detail about the "placing the open pod to the front of the car"?
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post Nov 11 2008, 09:50 PM

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here is a link to teach u how to DIY a bit on ur air filter..
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/831000/+140
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post Nov 11 2008, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(blackpc @ Nov 11 2008, 09:28 PM)
EFI engine? u should have refrain yourself from the above mods earlier and save money to buy unichip. port & polish the head and side gap & index a normal spark plug instead of going for expensive plugs.

Open pod filter stuck inside a heated engine bay perform worst than the stock air filter.
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svdo engine cannot use piggyback ecu... useless....

QUOTE(evangelion @ Nov 11 2008, 09:34 PM)
I want to use back the orignal engine and gear box but can do modification........... no change to turbo or mivec.

What stuff can be add to my car and can increase the performance?

Please introduce the stuff (included price) or type of modification (included cost). Thank you.

Current budget is around RM1K.
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1k can get 1.6 supertouring clutch and port polish cylinder head....

1k plus plus, u can get urself high profile camshaft adi...
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post Nov 11 2008, 10:13 PM

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where to get 1.6 supertouring clutch? spare part shop? just replace the original one? can you explain more detail?
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QUOTE(evangelion @ Nov 11 2008, 10:13 PM)
the_catacombs,

where to get 1.6 supertouring clutch? spare part shop? just replace the original one? can you explain more detail?
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get from halfcut shop... complete set with flywheel, clutch plate and clutch cover.... check clutch plate condition... if wears out alot adi better buy new one... clutch 1.6...

why supertouring flywheel and not other 1.6 flywheel??... because original proton 1.3/1.5 flywheel has 5 bolts securing the flywheel at the centre... proton 1.6 flywheel has 6 bolts, wont fit 1.3/1.5 engine...

but mitsubishi supertouring's flywheel has 5 bolts and the size of a 1.6 flywheel... hence, u can use 1.6 clutch plate for better grip and acceleration...

remember to skim/lightened ur ST flywheel coz it is heavier compare to ur oem flywheel... skim how much depends on whether u looking for pickup or topspeed....

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1.3/1.5 oem flywheel

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ST flywheel

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1.6 oem flywheel

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Nov 11 2008, 08:42 PM)
svdo 4g15 engine hmm...

there are alot alot more stuff u can do to add performance to ur engine.... but first state what is ur budget.... den we go along with that...
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sifo spoken.. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

wat urs budget for the performance mod?
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QUOTE(soyaben86 @ Nov 11 2008, 09:47 PM)
u can DIY a hole at ur front grill there..then from the hole u put a tube..so there is more CAI for your car..there is a thread about air filter already open..u can search..
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ur car is proton wira, the front part i mean is place ur air filter somewhere near the wira logo there to get more cold air...
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With a budget of 1K, can't really do much
if more than 1K, you can consider playing with cams smile.gif
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Nov 11 2008, 10:58 PM)
With a budget of 1K, can't really do much
if more than 1K, you can consider playing with cams smile.gif
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yours piper cams different~~
Get good ones ^^
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Nov 11 2008, 11:07 PM)
yours piper cams different~~
Get good ones ^^
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Nov 11 2008, 11:14 PM)
u say my cams no good  cry.gif  cry.gif
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QUOTE(kopiokao @ Nov 12 2008, 02:21 AM)
Hey bro, where u get ur performance upgrades ar?
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everywhere... biggrin.gif

which one u mean specifically??
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QUOTE(evangelion @ Nov 11 2008, 09:48 PM)
soyaben86,

may i know where to buy 2nd hand CF hood in Johor area? how much?
amduser,

can you explain more detail about the "placing the open pod to the front of the car"?
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looking for which car of CF?

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post Nov 12 2008, 10:43 PM

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Proton Wira 1.5 CF hood, do you have any idea? got any shop sell Proton Wira 1.5 CF hood in Johor area?



the_catacombs,

how you do the cam below RM1K? Can share to us?




lee831219,

my budget is around RM1K only.
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QUOTE(evangelion @ Nov 12 2008, 10:43 PM)
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how you do the cam below RM1K? Can share to us?
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hardworking abit surf around forums for cheap bargain... biggrin.gif

anyway, pipercams are now vr cheap oledi... rm5xx can get oledi... complete with adjustable campulley and tuning, ngam ngam below 1k... icon_rolleyes.gif
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sell off ur proton and buy a evo.
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QUOTE(victor87 @ Nov 13 2008, 01:02 AM)
sell off ur proton and buy a evo.
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hardworking abit surf around forums for cheap bargain... biggrin.gif

anyway, pipercams are now vr cheap oledi... rm5xx can get oledi... complete with adjustable campulley and tuning, ngam ngam below 1k... icon_rolleyes.gif
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wan find cheap price,need be patient..right sky?
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QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Nov 13 2008, 01:46 AM)
wan find cheap price,need be patient..right sky?
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i must sit on ur car one that catacombs, ur super fast saga is intriguing biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(KeV @ Nov 13 2008, 07:38 AM)
i must sit on ur car one that catacombs, ur super fast saga is intriguing biggrin.gif
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my car slow bai... no point... same with any other taxi around town... doh.gif
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Ctacombs car is fast smile.gif
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The carbon filter....got any difference as compared to normal filter?
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QUOTE(KeV @ Nov 13 2008, 08:06 AM)
ur car has goodies other taxi dont have, lol, except they have the NGV tank! haha
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NGV power mah.... 100++ octane rating... my shell premium also lose... doh.gif

QUOTE(shinjite @ Nov 13 2008, 09:23 AM)
Ctacombs car is fast smile.gif
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my car slow bai... kancil also smoke me... blush.gif

QUOTE(damone @ Nov 15 2008, 04:53 AM)
The carbon filter....got any difference as compared to normal filter?
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not carbon filter ler.... the housing is carbon only... filter isnt... no difference compare to other open pod air filter.... except dat it has a cf housing for better cosmetic purpose.... no point of it anyway... doh.gif
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if staying around johor area ? whereabouts ?

Taman Mount Austin have a lot of used auto parts companies ... best to go from Mon to Sat ... opening hours are about 9am to 6pm usually ...

sundays, only about 1 or 2 companies got open ...

if you are into mods, can go this company : Brighton Auto Parts, look for Ah Qiang ...

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Nov 15 2008, 05:04 PM)
not carbon filter ler.... the housing is carbon only... filter isnt... no difference compare to other open pod air filter.... except dat it has a cf housing for better cosmetic purpose.... no point of it anyway... doh.gif
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If compare drop in with CAI and this CF filter, with CAI, which would be more worth the moolah?
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QUOTE(damone @ Nov 15 2008, 09:57 PM)
If compare drop in with CAI and this CF filter, with CAI, which would be more worth the moolah?
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open port + cai hose
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performance car not necessary needs open pod also mah, drop in also can XD

add 1 more

track/drag car and also ultimate street performance car
Individual throttle bodies thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Nov 15 2008, 10:26 PM)
performance car not necessary needs open pod also mah, drop in also can XD

add 1 more

track/drag car and also ultimate street performance car
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if u notice.... Mine's demo car uses drop in air filter... they retains the original airbox..
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Yup thats the thing, so performance car also not necessary needs open pod like I said
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Nov 15 2008, 10:29 PM)
if u notice.... Mine's demo car uses drop in air filter... they retains the original airbox..
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What drop in do you use? KNN? What about AEM?

saw the powerzone iswara which you mentioned, 144hp article. quite awesome figures. Its amazing how much ponies they can milk for such an engine. I bet your car is another contender which can rival it.


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QUOTE(Vervain @ Nov 15 2008, 10:34 PM)
What drop in do you use? KNN? What about AEM?

saw the powerzone iswara which you mentioned, 144hp article. quite awesome figures. Its amazing how much ponies they can milk for such an engine. I bet your car is another contender which can rival it.
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QUOTE(Vervain @ Nov 15 2008, 10:34 PM)
What drop in do you use? KNN? What about AEM?

saw the powerzone iswara which you mentioned, 144hp article. quite awesome figures. Its amazing how much ponies they can milk for such an engine. I bet your car is another contender which can rival it.
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PZ's iswara is 140HP on crank and its stroked to 1.6L
Impressive it might be but to me, with that amount of mods, still can hit higher than advertised
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Nov 15 2008, 10:55 PM)
PZ's iswara is 140HP on crank and its stroked to 1.6L
Impressive it might be but to me, with that amount of mods, still can hit higher than advertised
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what they aim for is more torque... not high horsepower...
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Nov 15 2008, 10:57 PM)
what they aim for is more torque... not high horsepower...
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144Nm of torque at engine (not much of torque you can gain anyway, even my 1.6 outputs around there or even more on engine)
So on wheels around 13.x

Guess our engines also are torqueless wonders like the B16s

Engine has been PNPed, cams, and blueprinted as well, ECU has been tuned by Unichip as well.

Still can be tuned for better performance, its not the ultimate as of yet smile.gif
Best of all, still drop in air filter wink.gif

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no idea... haha.... but i've spoke to the powerzone marketing person... he said what powerzone aims is to achieve max torque earlier in the powerband....
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Max torque is at 5.5K rpm
Right about correct for a SOHC configuration
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Nov 15 2008, 11:29 PM)
Max torque is at 5.5K rpm
Right about correct for a SOHC configuration
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its max power is around 6.4K, its cams also for fast road spec only. Guess the owner spent more than RM10k just to get that figures plus its been tuned with a piggyback as well

Then I came across anther Wira also 4G15 stroked to 1.6L outputs 119WHP (fully blueprinted and etc) and also a souped up 4G18P Waja with the exact same mods like I did (stock bottom block). He got 142HP at engine and 114.5 HP at wheels. Then found out 1 thing, his car also tuned with a piggyback adi >_>

Mine still no piggyback tuning yet sad.gif
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Nov 15 2008, 11:48 PM)
its max power is around 6.4K, its cams also for fast road spec only. Guess the owner spent more than RM10k just to get that figures plus its been tuned with a piggyback as well

Then I came across anther Wira also 4G15 stroked to 1.6L outputs 119WHP (fully blueprinted and etc) and also a souped up 4G18P Waja with the exact same mods like I did (stock bottom block). He got 142HP at engine and 114.5 HP at wheels. Then found out 1 thing, his car also tuned with a piggyback adi >_>

Mine still no piggyback tuning yet sad.gif
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QUOTE(Vervain @ Nov 15 2008, 11:54 PM)
pray Santa will give you one this coming christmas.

j/k

well I also noticed the owner chromed the engine head. 10k is alot although its not practical, its the results which shows a 4g15 can still be improved
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My car don't have all those flashy gadgets, fuel regulator pun tarak, LSD pun tarak, short shifter pun tarak....but I'll try to maxed out my 1.6 engine soon without the need of those stuffs and compared it again to NS's 1.6L cars

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Nov 15 2008, 11:48 PM)
its max power is around 6.4K, its cams also for fast road spec only. Guess the owner spent more than RM10k just to get that figures plus its been tuned with a piggyback as well

Then I came across anther Wira also 4G15 stroked to 1.6L outputs 119WHP (fully blueprinted and etc) and also a souped up 4G18P Waja with the exact same mods like I did (stock bottom block). He got 142HP at engine and 114.5 HP at wheels. Then found out 1 thing, his car also tuned with a piggyback adi >_>

Mine still no piggyback tuning yet sad.gif
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ur car not 4g15 with 1.6 stroker kit also... why need piggyback??..

if a 4g15 stroked to 1.6 using 4g92p wiring and ecu, it doesnt need a piggyback... given dat it is using 4g92 injectors and throttle body...
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wat if city car use open port + CAI hose??
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sry to ask if u think is a stupid question..just wanna know..

wat if city car use open port + CAI hose??
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jz abit sluggish compare to stock standard.... but u'll enjoy at high rpm... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Nov 16 2008, 12:28 AM)
ur car not 4g15 with 1.6 stroker kit also... why need piggyback??..

if a 4g15 stroked to 1.6 using 4g92p wiring and ecu, it doesnt need a piggyback... given dat it is using 4g92 injectors and throttle body...
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add 100% alcohol in ur tank

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QUOTE(Dennos @ Nov 16 2008, 06:55 PM)
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guys any idea how much a heat shield will cost for a Wira? want a proper one, mine DIY one look very ugly biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Nov 16 2008, 05:43 PM)
sure no problem... if u can live with it...

jz abit sluggish compare to stock standard.... but u'll enjoy at high rpm... rclxms.gif
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Hard to gain speed loh compared to stock, its like no more power from low end

That kind of sluggish but once you go mid onwards, ur power kicks in, syiok already that time
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Nov 16 2008, 09:46 PM)
Hard to gain speed loh compared to stock, its like no more power from low end

That kind of sluggish but once you go mid onwards, ur power kicks in, syiok already that time
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QUOTE(soyaben86 @ Nov 16 2008, 09:19 PM)
sluggish is like how?? laugh.gif i dunno lar.. laugh.gif
i notice ur post count also didn't went up wor..u also spam ah?? laugh.gif
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i dun spam one ok... i jz post in FnF.... unfortunately due to some maniac forumers come into FnF post rubbish jz to increase post count, we all regular forumers kena as well... vmad.gif
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how fast can that special edition stock 1.5(i think is 1.5) wira can go ah??cause my friend said can hit around 160 only..true ah??
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180km/h is possible, why not?

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yea.... 180kmh is possible..
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180 wor??he die die tekan all also can hit 180??umm..kind of weird..he was fetching me..he tekan all..his car only go to 160 then the car like cannot go more..the needle stay at 160..is there like some kind of cut-off or his car got problem ah??

any those special edition wira engine is made from proton or mitsubushi(dunno spelling laugh.gif )??
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Manual or auto?
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Manual or auto?
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QUOTE(soyaben86 @ Nov 18 2008, 11:20 PM)
180 wor??he die die tekan all also can hit 180??umm..kind of weird..he was fetching me..he tekan all..his car only go to 160 then the car like cannot go more..the needle stay at 160..is there like some kind of cut-off or his car got problem ah??

any those special edition wira engine is made from proton or mitsubushi(dunno spelling laugh.gif )??
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mine normal edition 1.5 manual can hit 160 easily, sum more i didn't tekan habis yet...all stock engine, except change the performance spark plug cable only.... tongue.gif
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svdo engine ahh??... haha...
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is that possible that the car been into an accident before??
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QUOTE(soyaben86 @ Nov 19 2008, 11:43 AM)
wat is svdo ah??

is that possible that the car been into an accident before??
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Engine oil adi lah, time for an overhaul smile.gif
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depends how serious is ur accident... in most case, accident wont affect ur engine performance...
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then wat is SVDO engine means??


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Engine oil adi lah, time for an overhaul smile.gif
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QUOTE(soyaben86 @ Nov 19 2008, 06:39 PM)
then wat is SVDO engine means??


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ah??wat engine oil adi lar??if engine oil..just change the engine oil can already wurtt..why got to overhaul geh??
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Engine old adi tongue.gif

SVDO = Siemens ECU (batches after 2nd half of 2001)
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svdo hopeless arr...

6 people in a car... full throttle off da traffic light also cannot win an old uncle car (datsun, opel, charade, kancil, etc...)

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talking about ECU, is there any ECU that i can change for my 1.5M wira ar? I wan power for my car... How much will this kind of ECU cost? Any recommendation?
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ranging from piggybacks, rechips and standalone

What mods have u done? if completely stock car, don't bother
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QUOTE(kopiokao @ Nov 19 2008, 08:27 PM)
talking about ECU, is there any ECU that i can change for my 1.5M wira ar? I wan power for my car... How much will this kind of ECU cost? Any recommendation?
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Nov 19 2008, 07:00 PM)
svdo hopeless arr...

6 people in a car... full throttle off da traffic light also cannot win an old uncle car (datsun, opel, charade, kancil, etc...)

doh.gif
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umm..how to see svdo engine or not ah??i dunno leh..got write down at the engine big big like DHOC like tat ah??or got to check there and here to see is svdo ah??


Added on November 20, 2008, 11:46 am
QUOTE(shinjite @ Nov 19 2008, 06:41 PM)
Sorry, typo error
Engine old adi tongue.gif

SVDO = Siemens ECU (batches after 2nd half of 2001)
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i dun think the engine is old kua..i think he bought 2nd hand...the ownner only use if for 2 years only..then he took over already..so i think is not yet time to overhaul lor..overhaul cost lots of money wan leh..

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Anything can happen within that 2 years itself brother smile.gif
Maybe irregular maintenance and etc

and what year is the car manufactured? thats another question

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Anything can happen within that 2 years itself brother smile.gif
Maybe irregular maintenance and etc

and what year is the car manufactured? thats another question
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umm..must see the car's card ah??or at the body already can see ah??i not so sure..my friend lazy wanna online ask..so i ask for him..cause everytime go out drive slow..say that the car no power..make me sleepy only.. laugh.gif
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He tried with aircond on or off? 1 person in the car?

Try to minimise weight
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QUOTE(soyaben86 @ Nov 20 2008, 11:45 AM)
umm..how to see svdo engine or not ah??i dunno leh..got write down at the engine big big like DHOC like tat ah??or got to check there and here to see is svdo ah??
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yup yup..thanks for the photo..i will check with my friend if he is coming later.. laugh.gif
(can show off a bit cool2.gif )


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He tried with aircond on or off? 1 person in the car?

Try to minimise weight
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fetching me or him driving alone also the power lebih kurang only..without me..he said maybe around 162 to 165 depend on the road summore.. laugh.gif and i'm not that fat lar.. laugh.gif

minimise weight??he dun wan to really have the performace to race or wat..just want a stock special edition wira to have the power it suppose to be..

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yup yup..thanks for the photo..i will check with my friend if he is coming later.. laugh.gif
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like dat also can spot the difference??... notworthy.gif
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like dat also can spot the difference??... notworthy.gif
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u circle the thing there ma..so if got that thing meas is not vdo engine rite??or u prank me cry.gif
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QUOTE(soyaben86 @ Nov 20 2008, 10:50 PM)
u circle the thing there ma..so if got that thing meas is not vdo engine rite??or u prank me cry.gif
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lolz... dat one not i circle also... i googled da photo one mah....

da circled part is fuel hose... both svdo and mmc also got lah...
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lolz... dat one not i circle also... i googled da photo one mah....

da circled part is fuel hose... both svdo and mmc also got lah...
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cheh..i thought u so good go circle that thing and ask me go check see got that thing or not..

then how to see lar?? laugh.gif i wanna show off lar..wanna prove to my friend that forum can learn thing also.. cool2.gif
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QUOTE(soyaben86 @ Nov 20 2008, 11:04 PM)
cheh..i thought u so good go circle that thing and ask me go check see got that thing or not..

then how to see lar?? laugh.gif i wanna show off lar..wanna prove to my friend that forum can learn thing also.. cool2.gif
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Aiyah, why u pecah rahsia....I was about to say "I KNOW I KNOW!!" tongue.gif

if 1 person without on aircond also 165km/h only = engine old, wear and tear

Last time my car can only hit 160km/h (mostly only)-170km/h (need a bit of downhill), after top overhaul, can hit back 185km/h (back when I was auto)

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wat is ISC ah??also how to see ISC?? laugh.gif really dunno..in that photo got ma??if got u circle it out or u let me know which is which please.. notworthy.gif really dunno engine stuff beside my beetle.. laugh.gif


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if wanna learn anywhere also can learn...

da difference is at the throttle body... mmc can control the ISC.... svdo cannot...
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if wanna learn anywhere also can learn...

da difference is at the throttle body... mmc can control the ISC.... svdo cannot...
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actually is true anywhere can learn..but nowadays economy down..so i rather stay at home and online..then all my buddy keep on calling me go out and don't online too much..not good for health doh.gif

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QUOTE(soyaben86 @ Nov 21 2008, 10:31 AM)
wat is ISC ah??also how to see ISC?? laugh.gif really dunno..in that photo got ma??if got u circle it out or u let me know which is which please.. notworthy.gif really dunno engine stuff beside my beetle.. laugh.gif


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actually is true anywhere can learn..but nowadays economy down..so i rather stay at home and online..then all my buddy keep on calling me go out and don't online too much..not good for health doh.gif
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ISC is a part inside the throttle body... from outside only can see abit of shape difference... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Nov 19 2008, 11:13 PM)
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What mods have u done? if completely stock car, don't bother
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I'm now thinking of modding my car for faster acceleration (higher low end torque), what is the recommendation & where to mod in PJ ar? Any recommendation by any sifu ar?


Added on November 25, 2008, 2:08 amWhat is LSD? is it for the clutch to minimize slip? How to improved my stock manual tranny ar?

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QUOTE(kopiokao @ Nov 25 2008, 02:04 AM)
I'm now thinking of modding my car for faster acceleration (higher low end torque), what is the recommendation & where to mod in PJ ar? Any recommendation by any sifu ar?


Added on November 25, 2008, 2:08 amWhat is LSD? is it for the clutch to minimize slip? How to improved my stock manual tranny ar?
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LSD is called limited slip differential...

it minimize the rotation difference between left and right wheel, depending on the spec of ur LSD.... this minimizes single wheel spin during cornering... maximizing grip by applying power to both wheel......

no it has nothing to do with ur clutch... LSD is located inside ur differential, not ur clutch....
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LSD can put on auto ride ar?? or juz for manual ride onli??
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bro..my freind just check with his workman..they comfirm the engine is not svdo..also they ask my freind to do some top overhaul to gain back performance..

Is that true??COMFIRM will gain back??
How much outside usually charge??
How many days??
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Top overhaul ah, around RM300-400

Confirm will gain back ler of course but b4 doing that, did the foreman tell you whats the reason for the top overhauling?
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no wor..the 4man didn't tell the reason..just say.."oh..small small matter only..after top overhaul will gain back performance..no worry no worry..when u wanna come and do?" then my friend ask him again..he answer.."bro..u everytime come here service..u think i wanna cheat u meh.."

that's y got to get some info before i ask my friend to go ahead with it..
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In top overhaul what will they change? what performance parts can we change during top overhaul?.. noobie here.. blush.gif TS i wanna learn too... thumbup.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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difference between siemen and MMC engine, Siemen ECU has a sensor attached to the pulley. Last time me n my friend did a comparison. too bad i sold off myu 4g15 or else I would snap some photos
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QUOTE(chiewwl @ Nov 25 2008, 09:59 AM)
LSD can put on auto ride ar?? or juz for manual ride onli??
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LSD fit inside differential one mah.... auto should be able to use as well....

QUOTE(soyaben86 @ Nov 25 2008, 11:13 AM)
no wor..the 4man didn't tell the reason..just say.."oh..small small matter only..after top overhaul will gain back performance..no worry no worry..when u wanna come and do?" then my friend ask him again..he answer.."bro..u everytime come here service..u think i wanna cheat u meh.."

that's y got to get some info before i ask my friend to go ahead with it..
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the mech trying to con ur money... for no reason do so big repair... overhaul (no matter top or full), workshop can earn alot from there.....

if ur car aint damaged, dont repair it.... smile.gif

QUOTE(apa2jela @ Nov 25 2008, 11:51 AM)
In top overhaul what will they change? what performance parts can we change during top overhaul?.. noobie here.. blush.gif  TS i wanna learn too... thumbup.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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difference between siemen and MMC engine, Siemen ECU has a sensor attached to the pulley. Last time me n my friend did a comparison. too bad i sold off myu 4g15 or else I would snap some photos
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svdo got o2 sensor, throttle position sensor, map sensor, crank sensor and cam sensor.... mmc got o2 sensor and map sensor nia...

datz why svdo more clever... doh.gif
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Dear all,

just want to get your advise.

my car already done some mod, there are:-
1) open pod Simota air filter
2) double layer of break pump
3) normal brand spark plug cable
4) add E-Power (voltage stabilization) for spark plug
5) side gapped oem spark plug
6) add similiar product as micro compressor
7) add 2 pcs of cyclone
8) 4-2-1, middle box and S-flow muffler
9) CAI hose

So isn't my car need to do tuning or others adjustment?

Remark: my car is Proton Wira 1.5 EFI Year 2005.
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QUOTE(evangelion @ Nov 26 2008, 12:00 AM)
Dear all,

just want to get your advise.

my car already done some mod, there are:-
1) open pod Simota air filter
2) double layer of break pump
3) normal brand spark plug cable
4) add E-Power (voltage stabilization) for spark plug
5) side gapped oem spark plug
6) add similiar product as micro compressor
7) add 2 pcs of cyclone
8) 4-2-1, middle box and S-flow muffler
9) CAI hose

So isn't my car need to do tuning or others adjustment?

Remark: my car is Proton Wira 1.5 EFI Year 2005.
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dun need tuning... svdo ecu will auto recalibrate because it is a self-learning ecu... it will adapt to the changes made and adapt to ur driving style...
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Nov 25 2008, 09:27 PM)
the mech trying to con ur money... for no reason do so big repair... overhaul (no matter top or full), workshop can earn alot from there.....

if ur car aint damaged, dont repair it.... smile.gif
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save the money and remain 160km/h ler
Its good enough, tell your friend, cherish his life more, and save the money

Recession nowadays, save money
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Dear all,

just want to get your advise.

my car already done some mod, there are:-

1) open pod cap ayam air filter
2) grounding cable
3) zmax volt stab
4) add similiar product as micro compressor
5) 4-1 header, stock middle box and S-flow muffler

So isn't my car need to do tuning or others adjustment?

Remark: my car is normal campro persona 1st gen (no iafm no cps)
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QUOTE(shareal @ Nov 26 2008, 12:50 PM)
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Dear all,

just want to get your advise.

my car already done some mod, there are:-

1) open pod cap ayam air filter
2) grounding cable
3) zmax volt stab
4) add similiar product as micro compressor
5) 4-1 header, stock middle box and S-flow muffler

So isn't my car need to do tuning or others adjustment?

Remark: my car is normal campro persona 1st gen (no iafm no cps)
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dun need tuning... campro also uses siemens vdo... also self-learning ecu... will auto calibrate itself according to changes u've done to suit ur driving style....

btw, microcompressor is useless.... especially when u have a self-learning ecu such as svdo..... doh.gif
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Hi Something DIY.....perhaps can remove the Open POD Air Filter pipe and the filter, at the throttle body there terus use cable tie to tie the HKS filter form only......

tried on my wira 1.5, better kick then piping Open POD filter.....

can give a try
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QUOTE(leecheeyau @ Nov 28 2008, 10:23 PM)
Hi Something DIY.....perhaps can remove the Open POD Air Filter pipe and the filter, at the throttle body there terus use cable tie to tie the HKS filter form only......

tried on my wira 1.5, better kick then piping Open POD filter.....

can give a try
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of coz mah.... high revs will be damn syok.... but low rpm low speed suffer lor...

the theory still applies.... its all about flow efficiency... not alwiz da case bigger is better...
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QUOTE(evangelion @ Nov 11 2008, 07:36 PM)
Currently I drive Pronton Wira 1.5 Year 2005. I would like to know the way how to increase performace.

Isn't got some additional stuff or component to increase the car horse power performace?
Got any way to modify engine or gear box to increase the car horse power performace?
Please inform the shop name, address and telephone (in Johore area)

Please introduce and advise to me........... thanks

Please refer to my car engine photo as your reference.
1) original engine and gear box
2) add E-Power for stabil voltage of spark plug
3) Micro Compresor
4) Simota open pod air filter
5) Normal brand of spark plug cable
6) NGK G-Power spark plug
7) 4-2-1 type extractor, normal brand of midbox, Exhaust piping 1.7" & s-flow type muffler
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Bro, i have the same problems with you.
Same wira 1.5 GLI.

No power at all and petrol consuming.
City drive, slow drive. 40litle can go 400 km\h only.

Pick up is suck, felt the car very heavy, hand brake release or not releae as the same.

Open port and drop in have huge different?
After mod this air filter will more fuel consuming?

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moding for sure will drain more fuel ...
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i think of people here who mod open pod neglect the fact that it needs heat shield
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QUOTE(cwd8769 @ Nov 30 2008, 12:44 PM)
Bro, i have the same problems with you.
Same wira 1.5 GLI.

No power at all and petrol consuming.
City drive, slow drive. 40litle can go 400 km\h only.

Pick up is suck, felt the car very heavy, hand brake release or not releae as the same.

Open port and drop in have huge different?
After mod this air filter will more fuel consuming?

Pls advice notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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i advice use drop-in air filter.... better flow air filter suppose to increase performance and reduce fc abit.... because it has higher airflow and do not clog up so easily.... hence u get good amount of airflow, which helps ur engine breathe...

but one thing to remember, prevent it from sucking hot air around ur engine bay excessively... datz why i recommend drop in air filter for beginners because it is plug and play, no hassle...

if u insist in using open port, make sure u make a functionable heatshield and cold air intake for it...

QUOTE(BrotherHoe @ Nov 30 2008, 12:49 PM)
moding for sure will drain more fuel ...
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not necessary... i previously using open port, gained better fc....

QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Nov 30 2008, 01:19 PM)
i think of people here who mod open pod neglect the fact that it needs heat shield
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Nov 30 2008, 01:27 PM)
i advice use drop-in air filter.... better flow air filter suppose to increase performance and reduce fc abit.... because it has higher airflow and do not clog up so easily.... hence u get good amount of airflow, which helps ur engine breathe...

but one thing to remember, prevent it from sucking hot air around ur engine bay excessively... datz why i recommend drop in air filter for beginners because it is plug and play, no hassle...

if u insist in using open port, make sure u make a functionable heatshield and cold air intake for it...
not necessary... i previously using open port, gained better fc....
agree
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Normally for p.wira 2004 1.5GLI can up for how fast?
40litle can go for how many KM?

I have change the center box and muffler.
But i found that the car still very heavy.

I will change 13" rim to 15" next weeks.
See can more heavy or not sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

Normally wira increase performance and save flue is change center box and muffler. right?
Branded air filter like KNN, HKS and Apexi's is get big different compare with which common brand?

Low power car like my wira will take effect if i installed open port air filter?
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QUOTE(cwd8769 @ Nov 30 2008, 02:55 PM)
Normally for p.wira 2004 1.5GLI can up for how fast?
40litle can go for how many KM?

I have change the center box and muffler.
But i found that the car still very heavy.

I will change 13" rim to 15" next weeks.
See can more heavy or not sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

Normally wira increase performance and save flue is change center box and muffler. right?
Branded air filter like KNN, HKS and Apexi's is get big different compare with which common brand?

Low power car like my wira will take effect if i installed open port air filter?
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what makes u think changing centerbox and muffler will make the car lighter doh.gif
changing to 15" will futher kill ur FC
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QUOTE(cwd8769 @ Nov 30 2008, 02:55 PM)
Normally for p.wira 2004 1.5GLI can up for how fast?
40litle can go for how many KM?

I have change the center box and muffler.
But i found that the car still very heavy.

I will change 13" rim to 15" next weeks.
See can more heavy or not sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

Normally wira increase performance and save flue is change center box and muffler. right?
Branded air filter like KNN, HKS and Apexi's is get big different compare with which common brand?

Low power car like my wira will take effect if i installed open port air filter?
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ur car manual or auto tranny??...

i've seen wira 1.5 habis meter (180kmh) before....

normal drive, 40L can average 4xx km on ur tripmeter..... of coz dats depend on ur driving style...

if u wanna increase performance, dont think about saving fuel so much.... if u wanna save fuel, dont start modding ur car... besides, we must also see what kinda modification u do to ur car... for example, exhaust pipe, not necessary the bigger the better....

i would strongly suggest u to use "branded" air filters such as K&N (not KNN) or apexi... at least the performance gain is assured.... i've heard enough terrifying stories people using cheapskate filters that broke down or being sucked into the engine.... doh.gif

low power engine also can modify... not necessary must be nice car only can modify.... modifying scene has no car types barrier....

QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Nov 30 2008, 07:07 PM)
what makes u think changing centerbox and muffler will make the car lighter doh.gif
changing to 15" will futher kill ur FC
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depends what kinda 15" rim he use lor...
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Nov 30 2008, 07:44 PM)
ur car manual or auto tranny??...

i've seen wira 1.5 habis meter (180kmh) before....

normal drive, 40L can average 4xx km on ur tripmeter..... of coz dats depend on ur driving style...

if u wanna increase performance, dont think about saving fuel so much.... if u wanna save fuel, dont start modding ur car... besides, we must also see what kinda modification u do to ur car... for example, exhaust pipe, not necessary the bigger the better....

i would strongly suggest u to use "branded" air filters such as K&N (not KNN) or apexi... at least the performance gain is assured.... i've heard enough terrifying stories people using cheapskate filters that broke down or being sucked into the engine.... doh.gif

low power engine also can modify... not necessary must be nice car only can modify.... modifying scene has no car types barrier....
depends what kinda 15" rim he use lor...
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even he use the lightweight rim, that doesnt defeat the fact that the rim is wider and bigger.. u still ned to overcome friction so that the car moves
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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Nov 30 2008, 07:48 PM)
even he use the lightweight rim, that doesnt defeat the fact that the rim is wider and bigger.. u still ned to overcome friction so that the car moves
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how much extra rolling friction he will need to overcome if he upgrade from 175 tyres to 195 tyres??...
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Nov 30 2008, 07:56 PM)
how much extra rolling friction he will need to overcome if he upgrade from 175 tyres to 195 tyres??...
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well, u tell me, my math sux lolz..
anyway, previously using 185/15.. after the tyre end its life, i changed to 195/15.. can feel the drag definitely nod.gif
whats more 13" if ori proton is using 165/13 and whether if he can afford a true blue lightweight rim is still a question
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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Nov 30 2008, 11:17 PM)
well, u tell me, my math sux lolz..
anyway, previously using 185/15.. after the tyre end its life, i changed to 195/15.. can feel the drag definitely nod.gif
whats more 13" if ori proton is using 165/13 and whether if he can afford a true blue lightweight rim is still a question
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u mentioned about da disadvantage mah... u explain more about it lor.... doh.gif

how come i switch from 195 to 185 cannot feel any difference??... hmm.gif

is ur 185 and 195 similar tyre model??...
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mine from 185 to 195 not much difference, still the same
Probably its me XD
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Dec 1 2008, 01:09 AM)
u mentioned about da disadvantage mah... u explain more about it lor.... doh.gif

how come i switch from 195 to 185 cannot feel any difference??... hmm.gif

is ur 185 and 195 similar tyre model??...
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i wished to do the calculation for you but i forgot how to apply them already.. my physic went rusty..
i dont know about you.. maybe ur car was stripped to lighter curb weight? since my car already underpowered with tonnes of heavy stuff in my car, every single drag friction can be felt instantly..
oh ya, tyre model are different.. previously using 185 sime astar and nao 195 falken ziex sweat.gif
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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Dec 1 2008, 11:39 AM)
i wished to do the calculation for you but i forgot how to apply them already.. my physic went rusty..
i dont know about you.. maybe ur car was stripped to lighter curb weight? since my car already underpowered with tonnes of heavy stuff in my car, every single drag friction can be felt instantly..
oh ya, tyre model are different.. previously using 185 sime astar and nao 195 falken ziex sweat.gif
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put blue light infront ,big big spoiler, blue neon light . confirm increase performance
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QUOTE(guess19 @ Dec 1 2008, 10:02 PM)
put blue light infront ,big big spoiler, blue neon light . confirm increase performance
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Just a nood question, does anyone here tried out the de-carbo thing? It said to have the same effect of top overhaul, is this real?
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QUOTE(kopiokao @ Dec 6 2008, 07:47 PM)
Just a nood question, does anyone here tried out the de-carbo thing? It said to have the same effect of top overhaul, is this real?
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con job lah tat one... laugh.gif

running vpower fulltank/using those STP stuff prolly works better

anything that doesnt burn completely also can cause helluva smoke to come out from exhaust whistling.gif
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QUOTE(kopiokao @ Dec 6 2008, 07:47 PM)
Just a nood question, does anyone here tried out the de-carbo thing? It said to have the same effect of top overhaul, is this real?
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decarbo only removes the carbon buildup inside ur combustion chamber.... BUT, it wont clear all carbon off completely...

top overhaul not jz removes all carbon from ur combustion chamber.... it usually includes changing ur valve seal to new ones, clean up ur intake n exhaust port, new head gasket and so on....
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some of my recomendation to increase performance:
1: voltage stabilizer
2: cold air intake
3: extractor
4: lighten crank pulley

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lighten crank pulley which brand is better? How much?

Ignition earth (performace part) can increase car engine performance?

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my 2cents..

performance means nothing without safety features..

if u play N/A,
-high cam
-management
-lighten c/p
-adjustable
-better exhaust setting (pickup or top end?)
-racing clutch n lighten flywheels
-n dump a big bag of rm100 behind your car.. i guess that bring out the word 'PERFORMANCE'
-buckle your seatbelts!

turbo?
-bigger turbo lor
-almost same like playing NA
-regularly check your engine oil bla bla bla..
-dump a bigger bag of rm100 behind your car
-buckle your seatbelts!

most importantly, get a better absorber, brakes, n stuff..

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QUOTE(evangelion @ Jan 22 2009, 11:24 PM)
lighten crank pulley which brand is better? How much?

Ignition earth (performace part) can increase car engine performance?
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mythology i heard not bad... as it comes with damper....

ignition earth diy can adi la... no need buy branded expensive cable... i diy mine using 4awg cable... connect from engine bulk head to battery negative terminal... so far so good.... very minimal difference.... haha...
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jan 23 2009, 03:48 AM)
mythology i heard not bad... as it comes with damper....

ignition earth diy can adi la... no need buy branded expensive cable... i diy mine using 4awg cable... connect from engine bulk head to battery negative terminal... so far so good.... very minimal difference.... haha...
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Can you show your photo to me? which position of engine bulk head?

where to buy 4awg cable? how much?

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QUOTE(evangelion @ Jan 23 2009, 08:39 PM)
Can you show your photo to me? which position of engine bulk head?

where to buy 4awg cable? how much?
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u can mount it to the distributor bolt... this improves engine head grounding... which is important to produce strong steady spark from sparkplug....

4awg cable can get from electronics shop.... smile.gif

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my 1.3 wira (yr 2002) need to change clutch soon according to my friend coz he felt very difficult to change gear when he drive my car...

1) he suggested to upgrade to super touring clutch and rite now i'm survey for opinion whether i should change it to standard wira clutch or use super touring clutch??

i found one forumer selling super touring clutch priced rm260....is it worth it??

is it true that it give better pickup to my car??

2) another thing i need to know, when people said "clutch habis" wat does it mean??

3) what usually mechanic do when they repair "clutch habis" problem??how much usully the cost of repairing it??

hope u all can give some knowledge to me about my car

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QUOTE(knight_kriss @ Feb 3 2009, 04:00 PM)
my 1.3 wira (yr 2002) need to change clutch soon according to my friend coz he felt very difficult to change gear when he drive my car...

1) he suggested to upgrade to super touring clutch and rite now i'm survey for opinion whether i should change it to standard wira clutch or use super touring clutch??

i found one forumer selling super touring clutch priced rm260....is it worth it??

is it true that it give better pickup to my car??

2) another thing i need to know, when people said "clutch habis" wat does it mean??

3) what usually mechanic do when they repair "clutch habis" problem??how much usully the cost of repairing it??

hope u all can give some knowledge to me about my car
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1) yes... noticeable improvement in pickup... because it uses a larger clutch plate compare to oem clutch plate...

2) clutch habis means worn out clutch plate... FYI, clutch plate is wear n tear item.. should be replaced every 70,000km...

3) yes... layman term they understand... instead u give them specific technical term, they lagi garu kepala.... if ur clutch plate habis adi, better straight change to supertouring clutch n flywheel set...
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Feb 3 2009, 04:08 PM)
1)  yes... noticeable improvement in pickup... because it uses a larger clutch plate compare to oem clutch plate...

2)  clutch habis means worn out clutch plate... FYI, clutch plate is wear n tear item.. should be replaced every 70,000km...

3)  yes... layman term they understand... instead u give them specific technical term, they lagi garu kepala.... if ur clutch plate habis adi, better straight change to supertouring clutch n flywheel set...
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thnx for the answer

but one more thing i need to know

i found one forummer selling super touring clutch for rm260, is it worth it coz i dont now the right price for this item.

the seller claim, this set are plug and plug for my wira...but i still need to know whether i need to do other modification to my car to install this item...or i just install all the item given by the seller???

thnx for ur cooperation
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QUOTE(knight_kriss @ Feb 3 2009, 05:58 PM)
thnx for the answer

but one more thing i need to know

i found one forummer selling super touring clutch for rm260, is it worth it coz i dont now the right price for this item.

the seller claim, this set are plug and plug for my wira...but i still need to know whether i need to do other modification to my car to install this item...or i just install all the item given by the seller???

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yes worth it... 1.6 clutch plate brand new also rm1xx-rm2xx depending on brand... this one complete with flywheel n clutch cover some more...

ur wira is 1.3/1.5 or 1.6/1.8??.... if 1.3/1.5, yes plug and play... ST flywheel is 8" in diameter which can fit 4g13/4g15 engine without modifications... oem flywheel is only 7.5"...

a larger flywheel allows u to use bigger clutch plate (1.6 clutch plate)... better grip, hence better acceleration..
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Feb 3 2009, 08:16 PM)
yes worth it... 1.6 clutch plate brand new also rm1xx-rm2xx depending on brand... this one complete with flywheel n clutch cover some more...

ur wira is 1.3/1.5 or 1.6/1.8??.... if 1.3/1.5, yes plug and play... ST flywheel is 8" in diameter which can fit 4g13/4g15 engine without modifications... oem flywheel is only 7.5"...

a larger flywheel allows u to use bigger clutch plate (1.6 clutch plate)... better grip, hence better acceleration..
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ic....thnx for the explaination...seem i can replace my clutch this weekend


thnx bro for sharing ur knowledge
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I'd like to tumpang this thread a bit if don't mind ~ smile.gif

my car is also a wira 1.3, and my clutch is due to change as well. Same situation, but with an additional question I'd like to know.

I've heard of ppl lightening the flywheel. So as in this case, for a wira 1.3, is it advisable to obtain a 1.6 wira flywheel, and lighten it ? or just retain it stock and utilize in my car (1.3) ?

Cuz lightening would mean taking it out next time, if I opt for it... so it's best if I do it before the installation, if it's advisable that is ~

Thanks in advance smile.gif
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QUOTE(knight_kriss @ Feb 3 2009, 08:20 PM)
ic....thnx for the explaination...seem i can replace my clutch this weekend
thnx bro for sharing ur knowledge
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no problem...

QUOTE(josh2104 @ Mar 3 2009, 12:07 AM)
I'd like to tumpang this thread a bit if don't mind ~  smile.gif

my car is also a wira 1.3, and my clutch is due to change as well. Same situation, but with an additional question I'd like to know.

I've heard of ppl lightening the flywheel. So as in this case, for a wira 1.3, is it advisable to obtain a 1.6 wira flywheel, and lighten it ? or just retain it stock and utilize in my car (1.3) ?

Cuz lightening would mean taking it out next time, if I opt for it... so it's best if I do it before the installation, if it's advisable that is ~

Thanks in advance  smile.gif
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recommended to get super touring flywheel and 1.6 clutch plate + cover set... FYI, wira 1.6 flywheel cannot fit into 4g13/4g15...

benefit of using bigger flywheel allows u to use bigger clutch plate... a larger surface allows better friction... it is recommended to lightened ur supertouring flywheel around 500-600g....
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Mar 3 2009, 02:05 AM)
no problem...
recommended to get super touring flywheel and 1.6 clutch plate + cover set... FYI, wira 1.6 flywheel cannot fit into 4g13/4g15...

benefit of using bigger flywheel allows u to use bigger clutch plate... a larger surface allows better friction... it is recommended to lightened ur supertouring flywheel around 500-600g....
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came here to share about BRclutch ? brows.gif
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hmm..... lighten the flywheel......

the thing I also heard and read is that... I can't simply send it to any workshop to do the lightening, cuz I heard it can affect the balance if it's not done properly...

So does anyone know of any place I can do the lightening ? I'm from KL FYI tongue.gif

Ohh, and how much will it roughly cost ?
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QUOTE(juniorkirk @ Mar 3 2009, 04:16 AM)
came here to share about BRclutch ? brows.gif
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no ar... dat one is BRclutch spec meh??
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Try lighting your load.
Then try small mod.
Like better Air Flow.

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change to 4g63T or 93T.. also change your suspension to a better one..
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Anyone able to provide an answer for my question... ?

I kinda need it as fast as possible ~

Thanks in advance smile.gif
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well why no1 recommended on using Racing cluth exedy on 4g13p? or 4g15p ?

is more better rite den the super touringclutch rite?

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u can mount it to the distributor bolt... this improves engine head grounding... which is important to produce strong steady spark from sparkplug....

4awg cable can get from electronics shop.... 



bro catabomb. can show far a bit pic ahh. cuz i not really sure.

easy to DIY? got a thread of DIY this thing?

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Mar 3 2009, 02:05 AM)
no problem...
recommended to get super touring flywheel and 1.6 clutch plate + cover set... FYI, wira 1.6 flywheel cannot fit into 4g13/4g15...

benefit of using bigger flywheel allows u to use bigger clutch plate... a larger surface allows better friction... it is recommended to lightened ur supertouring flywheel around 500-600g....
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Hi bro, how to lighten the flywheel? Or is there anywhere we could buy it?
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QUOTE(josh2104 @ Mar 4 2009, 10:53 AM)
Anyone able to provide an answer for my question... ?

I kinda need it as fast as possible ~

Thanks in advance smile.gif
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what was ur question??....

QUOTE(bizzy @ Mar 6 2009, 12:02 AM)
well why no1 recommended on using Racing cluth exedy on 4g13p? or 4g15p ?

is more better rite den the super touringclutch rite?
bro catabomb. can show far a bit pic ahh. cuz i not really sure.

easy to DIY? got a thread of DIY this thing?
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racing clutch has its pros and cons compare to ST flywheel and 1.6 clutch.... clucth material is different... means it can withstand tougher punishing without losing its grip so fast... meanwhile 1.6clutch only offers a bigger friction surface, hence better grip during acceleration....

best option IMO, get ST flywheel and use 1.6 4-puck exedy racing clutch.... icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(kopiokao @ Mar 6 2009, 12:33 AM)
Hi bro, how to lighten the flywheel? Or is there anywhere we could buy it?
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u send the flywheel to machine shop and get it skimmed.... skimming process reduces its overall weight... make sure after skimming ur flywheel is balanced.... u dont want any vibration due to unbalanced flywheel after skimming...
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QUOTE(josh2104 @ Mar 4 2009, 01:53 PM)
Anyone able to provide an answer for my question... ?

I kinda need it as fast as possible ~

Thanks in advance smile.gif
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just make sure the mechanic knows what he's doing...... otherwise, for easier revving, just use a lightened & dampened crank pulley......

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Well but 4g13 wanna goes for 1.6 clutch have to mod right ?

If really compare racing cluth better of still 1.6c for ur knowledge?
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QUOTE(bizzy @ Mar 6 2009, 09:30 AM)
Well but 4g13 wanna goes for 1.6 clutch have to mod right ?

If really compare racing cluth better of still 1.6c for ur knowledge?
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dont need... but u have to change ur flywheel to super touring flywheel to accomodate the bigger 1.6 clutch plate....

if really compare, racing clutch is better IMO... of coz not many people can stand the heavy pressure of racing clutch... for normal usage and a bit of extra performance, 1.6 clucth is good enough...
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thanks bro. save in my head now. i will try to pick which i need to mod next of my baby 4g13p tongue.gif

but i heard for 4g15 racing clutch exedy is not that heavy. is that true?

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Mar 6 2009, 01:23 AM)
u send the flywheel to machine shop and get it skimmed.... skimming process reduces its overall weight... make sure after skimming ur flywheel is balanced.... u dont want any vibration due to unbalanced flywheel after skimming...
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any recommended workshop to skim the flywheel?
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QUOTE(bizzy @ Mar 6 2009, 10:36 PM)
thanks bro. save in my head now. i will try to pick which i need to mod next of my baby 4g13p tongue.gif

but i heard for 4g15 racing clutch exedy is not that heavy. is that true?
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i personally tried it... feels ok for me... mayb because it is not meant for very high horsepower, the pressure applied not a strong as 1.8 or 2.0 racing clutch...

QUOTE(kopiokao @ Mar 7 2009, 12:00 AM)
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nope... havent mod my clutch yet... smile.gif
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QUOTE(josh2104 @ Mar 3 2009, 05:23 PM)
hmm..... lighten the flywheel......

the thing I also heard and read is that... I can't simply send it to any workshop to do the lightening, cuz I heard it can affect the balance if it's not done properly...

So does anyone know of any place I can do the lightening ? I'm from KL FYI  tongue.gif

Ohh, and how much will it roughly cost ?
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This is my previous question, but anyways, it's not an urgent matter any longer tongue.gif

I've already replace my clutch, thanks for the help though ~~~ smile.gif
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just throw in an evo 4g63. close case
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QUOTE(hildagarde @ Mar 9 2009, 02:09 PM)
just throw in an evo 4g63. close case
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when kena jpj roadblock, just throw ur car to them. close case
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when kena jpj roadblock, just throw ur car to them. close case
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Ok. Then transplant 4g93 lor. That's the max wira could transplant according to jpj. I've sat on one before. Brutal power..
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Well, for a Wira, a 4G93T engine should be just nice. Still can be endorsed easily but the problem is the rising halfcut prices. If on a budget, can settle for 4G93P NA. Much cheaper smile.gif Dun forget to upgrade the brakes and suspension as well. Clutch can use Exedy 3 puck thumbup.gif

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heya. basically to increase the power of your engine you can increase the cylinder capacity..basically the best way to increase the cylinder capacity of the engine is by physically making each cylinder a larger diameter. another option to increase the cylinder capacity of the engine is by using a stroker kit..this will change the length of the crank and when combined with a lower profile piston, this enables you to increase the amount of capacity within the cylinder.

however reboring an engine might cost around RM 1500. if your budget is 1k then i suggest you make ur car as light as possible. change ur rims to 15". advan racing alloy rims are very light. use a dry carbon fibre hood instead of the wet one. thats all i guess.

hope this'll help you. smile.gif
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QUOTE(salju101 @ May 21 2009, 06:13 PM)
heya. basically to increase the power of your engine you can increase the cylinder capacity..basically the best way to increase the cylinder capacity of the engine is by physically making each cylinder a larger diameter. another option to increase the cylinder capacity of the engine is by using a stroker kit..this will change the length of the crank and when combined with a lower profile piston, this enables you to increase the amount of capacity within the cylinder.

however reboring an engine might cost around RM 1500. if your budget is 1k then i suggest you make ur car as light as possible. change ur rims to 15". advan racing alloy rims are very light. use a dry carbon fibre hood instead of the wet one. thats all i guess.

hope this'll help you. smile.gif
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no need change anything...drive it till it breaks and in the mean time save money and change to a better car...save the hassle of modifying...some ppl modify waja to wajalution evo5 spend around 40k++ on it...damn the fellow oredi can buy an evo5 2nd hand liao with the waja + 40k cash ...

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QUOTE(yeezai @ May 26 2009, 06:05 PM)
no need change anything...drive it till it breaks and in the mean time save money and change to a better car...save the hassle of modifying...some ppl modify waja to wajalution evo5 spend around 40k++ on it...damn the fellow oredi can buy an evo5 2nd hand liao with the waja + 40k cash ...
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seems like u dun understand the pleasure of modification scene... nvm, dun blame u... many similar with u either... they mod coz follow trend... which i also dun support...
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ May 26 2009, 08:08 PM)
seems like u dun understand the pleasure of modification scene... nvm, dun blame u... many similar with u either... they mod coz follow trend... which i also dun support...
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yeah..those people who buy ae86 because of initial-d and not because of the car itself.Or watch fast and furious and buy cars from the movies. Lack of imagination,knowledge and deep pockets can work wonders.
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QUOTE(yeezai @ May 26 2009, 06:05 PM)
no need change anything...drive it till it breaks and in the mean time save money and change to a better car...save the hassle of modifying...some ppl modify waja to wajalution evo5 spend around 40k++ on it...damn the fellow oredi can buy an evo5 2nd hand liao with the waja + 40k cash ...
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Well, it's not that we mod the car n then compare to other make of cars, but just we enjoying the process of modding a car, then enjoy the performance after modded it. It all depends what is our motif in modding a car. smile.gif

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How much does this 4g93 engine cost? Im also trying to increase power with my 1.5 auto wira a/b..alot told me change air filter..at the same time alot also told me cannot feel any noticable improvement. I guess for now I would just do bodykits..
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QUOTE(firenos90 @ May 27 2009, 12:17 AM)
How much does this 4g93 engine cost? Im also trying to increase power with my 1.5 auto wira a/b..alot told me change air filter..at the same time alot also told me cannot feel any noticable improvement. I guess for now I would just do bodykits..
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change 1 thing cannot do wonders la bro... u need to change alot of things....

well, there is 1 thing u can change which can feel immediate effect.... i) change engine ii) change car

4g93p NA cost approx rm4.5k.... 4g93t gsr cost approx rm9k....

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