Hey all, how is everyone? doing well?

just thought i would post my AMD 4000+ results and see if anyone has any ideas on how i could either push the CPU further or maybe some sweet ram timing ive not yet found.


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will upload advanced screen dump of voltages and speeds etc if needed.


thanks guys!!

have done this, my amd 4000+ can max out at 327Mhz fsb, but its getting the correct multi and also keeping the ram within reason. my rig really doesnt like the half multi's 9.5 10.5 etc, also not sure if higher multi's are just not available on my board or maybe becuase its not an unlocked black edition, so im left with fsb clock and ram.
i have also lowered my htt divider to x5 to keep things steady.

10 seems to be my highest whole number multi that i can select but i seem to be very unstable anywhere above 300x10, even though i have booted into O/S at 3.25ghz but not sure if ram timings, CPU/chipset voltages or htlink multi are holding me back? at the moment i am at 1500mhz htlink - but this is very stable unlike my old board which anything over 1000mhz would just bsod.
have tried using 1.47v vcore but doesnt like it much, do u think that it could be a missed timing on the rams side of things or just needs another bump in vcore to get it to where it needs to be?

thanks for your help mate,

hiya mate, thanks again for your help.

heres a screen dump of my rig:


ram is running @ 2.3v,
cpu idle 19* - 26* load 27* - 38* max


This post has been edited by blackenthesoul: Nov 13 2008, 07:13 PM

cheers again for your help and support , i am in the process of trying those voltage, multi and clock speed combination's and will post screenies and stress/benchmark tests later.

also in real time gaming situations would higher cpu core speed be better performance than higher memory speed/bandwidth? as been running at 3.00ghz with ram @ 1000mhz., say if i change multi's and everything goes ok and i get to 3.15ghz stable but with ram only around the 600mhz mark is that going to be a drop in performance from where i am now?

well, with ur help i managed to bump my cpu up to 3.06ghz stable- 3.08ghz is not so lucky?! heres a screenie of my bios and results of occt etc...




i have raised the fsb upto 308mhz, and added NB voltage and lowered htlink. doing all of this meant that the occt test would run for around 15-16mins then crash with error code 1/4 - which i have recently found out(not 100% possitive) that usualy the reason for these crash codes are due to NB or RAM but not sure what it needs, lowered htlink? or more/less voltage(see NB voltage in screenie - too much or little more?)

also in bios my RAM is rated at 820mhz but cpu-z is recognizing it as 770mhz?!? not quite sure why.

i just really want to crack 3.2ghz stable as have booted into O/S and have done some memory benchmarks @ 3.15ghz and i have maxed the fsb @ 327mhz

"i just cannot do it capt'n",

do i need some sort of dialithium crystal to get me the power i need?

once again thanks for your help mate.

i have tried using more vcore (1.46v + 1.50v), seems to stabilize things for a bit longer then crashes after around 20mins of OCCT 2 test, can only complete 1M test with SuperPI mod 1.5.
at the moment my room has heating on full as boiler is slightly funked. so load temps going up to around 50* - 53* hottest its ever been! even when first overclocked with stock sink + fan didnt reach this high!
my temps are alot better during day when boiler is not in use, and my room chills very nicely, MAX load around 39* - 41* with these higher voltages.

im not too sure what to do, whether to keep cracking on attempting to adversely 'fry' my chip by overclocking it over and over to try to get above 3.15ghz when as u said there is a very good possibility that it has a ceiling wall at 3.06ghz max operating ability.

are these chips known for doing much more than 3.00ghz? (being a 2.10ghz stock?)

so ive been thinking of upgrading my cooling/cpu....
either 6000BE or 6400BE if i can find any black editions left?!
or maybe the answer is liquid/phase cooling? but might be a loss if my chip refuses to do any more??

im kind of stuck - - - i think?!?!?!
------help-----

thanks again guys for all your help,


i really think i am going to take your advice and get a new CPU, but with the tri-core x3's is there any software or games making use of an odd core CPU, as the resource handler would have to split into 3 rather than an even number. - sounds like hard work!...are these cpu's being used to full potential or are they put out by AMD to test the market for future x3 sales IF it can be used properly?

alternatively i will be looking for a x4 core phenom. but i have read+heard alot about the bugs in early stages with: 1066ram, bios updates, vista x64. etc...

Sory about all the questions, im eager to learn, just wondering what kind of performance gain would i expect if i upgraded from my 3.06ghz x2 core to a 3.06ghz x4 core(clocked or not) and which x4 core would u suggest as good headroom for overclocking, performance and last but not least an x4 core which isnt going to break the bank in half?!?!?!

9950 x4core looks really good! definatly the way to go!, 2.6ghz stock - easily overclockable past 3.00ghz?

i may be really stupid (i hope not) but i checked on newegg's website, i dont think they deliver to the UK?....but have found a UK site within the last 2mins which list this Black Edition CPU for around £136 + delivery in UK - bonus!

also found 2 different black edition 9950's: one being 125w and the other 140w, both 65nm technology, which in your professional eyes would be better everyday use and overclocking?

my board is MSI K9A2 platinum 790FX board with heat pipes and nb cooler, but would u suggest an aftermarket 3rd party cooler, or really cold passive cooling? at moment with my current cpu my N/B temps are around 29*load

thanks again for your help. i will hopefully be getting this x4 core chip in the next couple of weeks and then back to the drawing board, and my never ending quest to make things faster!!

also i suppose that means if i can grab a stable bios for my board using 1066 ram without the bug, i can increase the overclocking headroom even more by dropping dividers cant i?

its all fun + games aint it!?!?!

so here we are, i think this is about my max stable operating frequency while running ram at max (i think) @ 1000mhz.
heres some screenies....



will post bios screenies later 2day.


thanks again for everyone's help with this overclock, also if u think u might have any ram tips, or sweet timings im not picking up on please let me know.

is there a specific reason as to why my rig isnt stable using any .5x multi 7.5x,8.5x etc
no matter what ram divider i use its not stable

please save me from hell!

im looking to change to 296x10.5 to get me 3.1ghz or 300*10.5 to get me 3.150ghz but at any clock speed it doesnt seem stable when using half multi's, is there a specific ram timing, or option in which using half multi's become stable?


please help