Guys,
As above title can u please list RTS game that good in display and also require the true strategies on winning the games? Coz for me, C&C3 Tiberium wars also not so challenging eventhough iI play it with the Hard Difficulties....



Thanx

1. Company of Heroes series
2. Supreme Commander series
3. World in Conflict

my top 3.

Play against humans. More challenging.

suprmem commander. go test ur skills there if u can.

supreme commander.

Yeah...already have this game but seems like the graphics is not to my liking, so I just uninstalled it back...Think on installing it back on my machine....::yummy::

try World in Conflict, I also enjoyed Company of Heroes.

for me warcraft 3 is challenging enough.

dota

dota is not RTS...

1 V 1 hard difficulties is too easy for you.
1 V 2 then.. ^^

If you're really kicking ass, play online with human players, AI are just too dumb to play with.

Not yet having internet connection at home...Will apply for streamyx 2mb soon...Muahahaha..

SC? The AI sucks though .waiting for SC II~

Hmm, the only game that gives me some challenge might be Supreme Commander too. Gives the AI lots of resources and a bit of time, and you'll see lots of things shooting at you

With AI, it still depends on you. If you're a master strategist, even on extreme -ing hard, it will still feel like a breeze to you

With human, heheheh . You can never find an opponent more mischievous, lying *******, double stabber than the person playing next to you O_o Oh, so much fun

No internet connection at home..
To me, a pc is useless without a internet connection. ^^

starcraft (hunter z turbo)

Play against human opponent. Not hard or brutal AI whatsoever. That will test your strategies and most importantly your skill to the max

^^tango25
Not yet i sez..Coz just moving to this house...and to find myself are suitable for long term stay at this house...So need to look2 first then will have connection...Muahaha coz for the fix line net must have at least a year contract is it?

For me Nth beat World In Conflict in RTS......the best RTS of all time.....play with Human is most best even is highest rank ( General) still will lose the game

this is what we call as 'slave of technology'

Rise of legend

RoL was decent. Not really that great but a fun game. It tried to imitate Warcraft 3 with heroes stuffs.

my vote goes to Company of Heroes,WiC and Supreme Commander..

medieval 2 total war!
or better yet, Rome total war : Alexander!! HAHA, one of the hardest expansion pack... zzz..

i would say total war series... large number not always win
quote: Sun Tze Art of War

dota

apa la you. first you want RTS. give you good RTS then you complain graphic.

might as well right at the start you want an RTS with strategy PLUS impressive graphics.

but tell you la, in RTS you have time to observe graphic ah? in Supreme Commander, you spend most of your time on overview anyway.

if you took note of Sup Comm, each faction seem similar but their units are pretty much varies, that even the naval unit most people haven't actually used their T3 units. I know I haven't, simply because their T3 units take quite a while to build and comes to really powerful, almost a T4 unit and sometimes even more useful.

in Sup Comm, holding 60% of the resources on map also doesn't mean you're going to be the winner, simply because what you build will also be spread out in defending while the guy with 40% could end up just building a few T2 missile launchers and take out the bulk of your upgraded ME.

if you find it not challenging enough, try pitting yourself against AIX.

i won't say nothing beats it cos diff ppl diff preference BUT it certainly is a great RTS. Try playing online and coordinate with your team, whether you're the cmdr or not - wow....... no tank spam! it involves careful use of your resource.

coordination is essential. split second decisions could make or break the battle. i tried it and i was impressed, it was really fun.

as for Company of Heroes, interesting that you can actually use the surrounding and elevation for your advantage among many other things. again, pretty difficult to spam since you're much dependant on your supply line and unit points or whatever you call that, so you're units are limited to what you hold.

oh gawd, how come i forgot to mention total war series.. their game was awesome!!

This post has been edited by noobianz: Nov 12 2008, 12:59 AM

Starcraft over Battle.net?

Challenging RTS mode: Playing C&C3: Tiberium Wars skirmish, Brutal AI difficulty. 1-to-1 Using NOD against Scrin (Turtle). Damn I just never won this war!

Total War series, Warcraft and starkraft.

RTS = BUrsa Malaysia.

If you lose you will hang your self

hahaha

for me it would be company of heroes

that's tough.

for me and my buddies, we play Sup Com : FA vs AIX.

sometimes even 3 vs 1 AIX can barely survive. the AIX has like unlimited resources and builds horrrendously fast.

in no time suddenly get spam of T3 bomber, T4 units, T3 artillery and the worse part, T3 strat missile!

sheesh, gila wan. some more of the 3 players, one of them don't play so well.

so that's like 2.5 vs 1. it's challenging that we had to try our very best to survive and hopefully defeat the ever growing powerful AI.

the other day i wanted to play 4 vs 4,

me + 3 AI vs 4 AI, but i mistakenly set me + 3 AI vs 1 AIX + 3AI.

later when found out that time, it's like aiyah...........DO OR DIE. but end up won, cos I was playing Assassination Mode and spam T4 with the AIX Commander as the primary target. after that, the rest just crumbles.

can beat that in jz 3 minutes...
build a crane, then a base next to them with defenses and barracks queue up when the game start...
chunk out engineers and they'll sell their buildings when ur engineers are near...

but if u dun do taht towards the late game u will see their spam...
not hard if u play turtle defense with nod like me...

i sitll find sup comm the hardest...

Maxis has some kinda online anywhere, portable modem, you can try out.

Please dont feed the trolls.

one damn thing about playing with my buddies in SupComm is that on 3 vs 3, i can wipe out the first AI within 5 minutes.

so that's 3 vs 2.

easy right?

NO..............cos by then i'm slow in resources already. my other buddy is practically useless in attacking. and the other is great in attacking but always love to build up kau kau kau kau before doing anything.

so yeah, if they all did like me, we'll finish the game in 5 minutes but unfortunately not. even with rush timer on, i could almost always crush an AI's base a few minutes after it's over, then again my buddies aren't so 'crazy' like me. haha. damn.............

hehe...I said for me mar....SO World n Conflict are the best..i now still playing it online.....Best lar...always dunno your team are pro support or arty noobie.

Goldfirst ur Supreme Commander so Pro liao sure can take out Comp in 5 minute...GG

That'll be World in Conflict. Learned this the hard way: Off-map destructive weapons does not always work XD (about 10 second delay for each use). Same goes for senseless group rushing (Lost 6 tanks in less than 10 seconds from enemy rocket troops ==).

Battle For Middle Earth (especially 2) also surprises me as well. The game is highly dependent on the usage and placement of troops, which is like no other RTS I've played before. The first time I played this I used the usual "unlimited ranged unit mass" I usually used in most RTS, and it failed me (totally) for the first time O_o.

This post has been edited by greatgreedyguts: Nov 12 2008, 07:40 PM

Hehe. Like that you'll be stomped by the cavalry instead.

For my fav RTS is

C&C Generals : zero hour
CoH : Vanilla ( didn't have the chance to upgrade to OF)
Rise of Legends

Supreme commander

AI a bit dumb at the start. just don't give them enough resources and they won't give you nightmare.

start by just walking your cmdr to their base, build a T1 PD covering 2 ME. then build another nearer some more.

from your base, can spam T1 tanks. or if not also, send your cmdr with accompanying T1 arti if you don't wish to play T1 PD style.

it's actually one of the more tactical C&C.

Generals alone, NOPE. but Zero Hour - YES!

I love playing GLA. spam black market and scud launcher. but GLA defences a bit cacat la.

Yes that's very true. Tomahawk's can easily obliterate the GLA's defences.

U should try Defcon.

Perhaps its not the standard RTS per se...but it requires a huge chunk of strategy (as well as paranoia) to win the game

let's not forget that a bunch of upgraded paladdins could render the GLA defences useless since they're rocket based.

using poison tank or anything that kills human also renders GLA defences useless too. their only advantage is the lack of reliance on power generator.

I think that the way to play GLA is to make more than one base. Speed is the essence.GLA will experience more unit lost than the enenmy but the strategy here is to outlast the enemy.

Maybe you can try playing Chess online

The tunnel networks is essential! If stealth, you can just put a scud far far at the corner of the map. Too bad the angry mob can't enter the tunnels. If allowed, I bet the opponent will panic. AK47 for everyone!

Talk about RTS,

Age of Empires 3?

I like the ships and the water effect. hehe

use $$$ for units.

and use tunnel networks! damn fun man, suddenly build a few around enemy base (assuming opponent not smart enough to scout)

or use the special ability that open up the tunnel. fuaaaaahh imagine rush out a few of the battle bus with rocket passengers and a bunch of gattlers.

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Added on November 20, 2008, 10:12 amanother RTS that i really miss is Age of Mythology!

This post has been edited by goldfries: Nov 20 2008, 10:12 AM

Haha. A single touch to the spy satellite and our neighbor starts rushing their paladins.

Ahh, Age of Mythology, such a hard game. I've never win a Norse. Strong war race. I only managed to hide behind my egyptian wall.

well, i never play WiC and SupCom before..... but wan to try it....

btw,

my choice is CoH coz the first and only RTS that i play online....

same tactic wont effect to the other people..... must change tactics all the time....

Damn,now i want to buy Sup Com.

fight CoH with me 1st la....

This post has been edited by syazwanreno: Nov 20 2008, 08:53 PM

How come no 1 ever mentioned about sins of a solar empire, total war series, total annihilation, sudden strike, dawn of war 40k, rise of nations, Dune 2, Homeworld, age of empire, empire earth, age of mythology,Battle Realms, Three Kingdoms: Fate of the Dragon or known as dragon throne, dragon throne battle for red cliff, starwars empire at wars. Dragon throne and its expansion is my favourite RTS chinese game that Ive played so far and i find it very innovative too.

Those are the RTS that I have tought of so far, have fun trying them out.

Ahh you are talking bout turn base stretegy games Go(board game) or knows as baduk in korean and wei qi in chinese is a much deeper strategy game in terms of thinking, then you move on to risk where dice is involved axis and allies so is warhammer 40k those are the ones that I can think of.

My connection is damn laggy la.What time do you play?

seriously, if want to talk good RTS - DARK REIGN! STAR CRAFT! WARCRAFT! (no, no WoW, not DotA. WARCRAFT, as in WC1 and WC2! not sure about WC3 la)

btw i mentioned AOM before you.

i guess people didn't mention because people only list out what they think are top of the crop.

so now, should we stick to the latest available RTS or talk about those ancient ones?

speaking of Dark Reign, I think it's really great cos the behavior setting is damn good la, can set the unit to Search & Destroy mode (set that to all Cyclones!) and also can tell them how much damage to take before going back for repair. Till now (around 10 years passed) I have yet to see RTS implement this, at least not on the RTS that I played.

then of course, Mech Commander. I don't know if anyone calls Mech Commander game as RTS. It is Real time. It is strategy. Or commandos series? Or heck X-COM series was great too!........... oh wait, X-Com was turn-based X-com 3 i think was real-time but I didn't play.

I have not played that before maybe I should go and look for some 3rd 4th hand shop or wose comes to worse get from the net.

Mech Commander was just classic I loved it so much, never played X-com too.

Ahh yeah how can I forget black and white and populus by madfrog, ahh yeah dungeon keeper too.

Speaking of good game I feel that EA killed so many of them by just buying them over and stop producing their game or make their games into crap. that how capitalism goes.
Maybe playing king of the gaming world is more fun than playing RTS it self, planing how to take over other competitors and selling them just like the good old idea from westwood not EA capture with engineer and sell the building esp the construction yard. Well atleast there is still companies like ironclad which makes good RTS like sins of a solar empire.

This post has been edited by fujkenasai: Nov 20 2008, 11:41 PM

MechCmdr and MechCmdr II just rawks!

Let's not forget Syndicate from Bullfrog (are you sure madfrog ah? not bullfrog?)

ahh IIRC Nexus (Jupiter project) was good too. KKND I tried but never liked.

what to do, i just love RTS.

Mech Commander just rocks.I miss that game.

Ahh me 2 me 2 too bad that I didn have a decent com to play computer games until now the games I played in those days were borrowed computers or on my 486 then latter on only a celeron 800 megahertz.

I remember some time ago some 1 asked for a multiplayer mech commander 2.
Talking bout mech commander I miss the mech warrior series too though its abit out of topic but ....
I wonder why with all the new graphic improvements no 1 make mech commander anymore, that goes for flight simulation games just kinda dying. These days so many fps that I got so fadup with it no 1 thing of nice gameplay anymore but just graphics graphics.

Hmm haven't tried mech cmdr though.

Here's a few RTS that I consider it fun to play.

Populous : The Beginning ( Shaman turns to god FTW!!)

Act of War Series : awed by the graphics when I 1st bought it.

Star Wars Galactic Battleground : ( can make a lot of jedi to war)

i missed many games cos of that also.



yeah me too. i only played MW2, MW3 i didn't. MW4 i played but the expansion i didn't play.

yeah, i miss those good old days where flight sims were common.

nowadays all FPS.


funny thing about the Act of War game was that (I played was Act of War: High Treason) I couldn't get pass mission 2. or was it 3.

i don't know, putting all my years of RTS skill just couldn't get pass it due to ridiculously overwhelming odds and to some extent, a little lousy control of the units.

I miss those mech games.They are all awesome games.

Yeah,now days only FPS with better graphics.No much changes in gameplay.

So far I find Red Alert 3 challanging, since haven't touch RTS games for a while after Warhammer 40k : Dark Crusade.

try homeworld, homeworld 2 and the Evil Genius

I guess the most recent flight simulation that I have played is battle field 1942 then 2 and thats about it I think thats the best game every created by EA for me.
and thats originally EA.

I played Act of War till my com always crashed and after that I stopped. I guess cos its a downloaded version I could not find the game in market anymore, other than ahem stores. Guess I shall see who is selling that game.

There's a huge Flight Simulation community. They've got their own Air Trafiic Controllers and they use Gaming Rigs most of us can only dream of. Microsoft Flight Simulator supports multiple monitors and most of the Flight Simulator players take their hobby very serious. You can even compete in the Red Bull Air Race! What I do see a lack of is are the Flight Simulators for military planes or helicopters

to me, the revolutionary ones are

Half Life, System Shock 2 and Deus Ex.

after that, the other FPS to me are just............FPS. haha. I never touched Crysis also, other than the demo for benchmark purpose.

i don't know what's the hoohaa about Crysis.

Crysis is just very good eye candy thats all to it. However Empire total war seems different to its previous total war.

that's what I thought. till now I've yet to come by decent FPS also. STALKER is actually WAY better than Crysis IMO. graphically and gameplay wise.

oh btw, back to RTS. I MISS DARK REIGN!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Reign:_The_Future_of_War

11 years back and still beats the shit outta most RTS today.

Hmm looks abit like westwood games to me, should download and play some time that is if its still around.

bleh, beats the crap outta Westwood punya games.

I always prefer the old days of FPS, where they just, well, honest-to-god mindless, with a little bit of twisted humour, I am looking at you Serious Sam and Duke Nukem.

Anyway does darwinia considered as RTS ? So retro and exciting.

Well,
Dark reign beat me flat, I never finished the game. No other game i know learned from their mistakes.

Syndicate Wars was godlike.
Dune2 was godlike.
Warcraft series... i dunno.


Anything westwood.
Anything relic. =)

ahah yeah. how about Doom or Wolfenstein 3D? anyway let's not go FPS la.



that difficult?

there's also another strategy game that i can't remember the title.

it works something like WiC and i think it's from Sierra. Set in future.

RELIC!

dark reign was ok but dark reign 2 was crap.

dune 2 = dune 2000? with a lot of sand maps right?

It kinda hard la that game.

dune 2 was nice. only problem is no group select. so to send 1 line of Devastator meant having to click 1 by 1 and hope they reach almost same time.

dune 2000 was lousy. damn horrible, they tried the rock / scissor / paper style ala StarCraft but failed badly.

you guys keep ranting about fps games ?? have you all played call of duty 5 ?? it has a very good game play and it's not a no brainer .... you dont feel heroic after winning the game though unlike the previous games like medal of honour where killing people = purple heart for you..

Dune 2 is the original and Dune 2000 was the remake. Dune 2 was better imho(its a classic after all)... Dune 2000 was mediocre...

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Added on November 21, 2008, 3:11 pmMeh...all flash but no substance

This post has been edited by frags: Nov 21 2008, 03:11 PM

uhuh........... COD5. yeah. like compare to how many FPS out there?

1 good COD5 doesn't say much IMO.



that's an overstatement! it was far from being mediocre!

I REMEMBERED!!! it's GROUND CONTROL!

Dune 2 was either the 1st or the 2nd RTS game that I played and I fell in love with RTS immediately.

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Added on November 21, 2008, 3:16 pmAhh ya I think its made by the same group of people. Its been 1X years since the 1st RTS is made and I guess the most realistic RTS that Ive played that comes close to real life is Sudden Strike. I loved Sudden strike 2 esp with the artilary train. :3 that train rocked.

This post has been edited by fujkenasai: Nov 21 2008, 03:16 PM

fuj, Dune 2 certainly was the first ever RTS.

till now, my fav RTS series are supreme commander and homeworld. C&C has it's ups and downs but generally fun la.

My fav computer RTS have been Sins of a solar empire, rome total war, sudden strike 2 and maybe supreme commander.

Though Im kinda bored of sup com maybe cos of the bad implementation of the multiplayer sistem.

Most of them just have more and more flashy stuff but getting less innovations.Besides,ridiculous system requirements just put me off.

CoD? That one is different.It's more like the only good apple in a basket of rotten apples.

CnC is much more casual and easy to pick up thus popular with the masses...
dune was really good at that time (the other RTS at that time was not as good as it) and i really enjoyed it...

so far only Sup Comm gave me the feeling of a HUGE RTS...
how is it a war and not squad base...

compare SupCom vs SupCom FA, i like FA but then in FA, the unit formation is pretty cacat la. i find not as flexi as the original.

Yeah, supcom was massive!!! Its like a whole planet. My units take so long to reach the enemy base. I do like the transport. Cool way bringing the units by hanging them.hehe

those huge maps. take ages to complete if you don't play assassination mode.

imagine have to hunt for submarine. need how many sonar. artilleries also can't reach, can only use T3 nuke which hopefully someone screwed up in creating anti-T3-nuke.

Haha. In the end I managed to bombard the enemy cmdr by building a t3 artillery next to their base.

wow. doesn't the fella have like T3 omni sensor? Even if he got hit once, he could've moved - unless he has no idea he's being hit la.

I guess he has no idea that he is being hit. Talking bout sup com artillery my fav is still the marvel it can cover the distance of any map in the game as long as you have power its nothing can stand in the way not even 4 shields built in the overlapping area.

BTW have anyone tried this game on a quad core?

This post has been edited by fujkenasai: Nov 25 2008, 10:50 AM

anyone remembered total annihilation? the grandfather of Supreme commander... one of my old time favs...

Ofcourse I did but I didn get to play it at that time as my com was just barely limping with the games of the day and this game was a req killer.

Yes. I played that long time ago. Although there's only 2 factions and the cmd unit looks very squarish. The best part in the game is the air units!

yeah... i like it when the commander unit goes boom!!!! taking out the other units along....

Was it like that in total annihilation too?