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post Nov 26 2008, 06:17 PM

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by the time you spam 6x fatboy, your opponent could have a lot already too.

6x fatboy has problem against a bunch of T3 ler.

so in the event that you have 6x fatboy and 100 T3 fighter la.

if the fella have 18+ T3 bomber and 50 T3 fighter, he'll probably take you down too. sad.gif or easily 1 portion of the fatboy is taken down. 6x T3 bomber on each fatboy and it's pretty much settled on most of them. the 50 T3 fighters can harass the rest or add the confusion.

if we consider same amound of resource, then a bunch of fast moving T3 / T2 bots would be helpful. coming in from multiple directions.

this is the thing that makes SupComm really nice. biggrin.gif elevation is critical!
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post Nov 26 2008, 06:20 PM

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if u not interested in RTS, u can always try this adventure games that use ur brain to super max

Sherlock Holmes Series, Syberia 1 & 2, Still Life....

playing sherlock holmes guranteee u brain will explode
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post Nov 26 2008, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 26 2008, 06:17 PM)
by the time you spam 6x fatboy, your opponent could have a lot already too.

6x fatboy has problem against a bunch of T3 ler.

so in the event that you have 6x fatboy and 100 T3 fighter la.

if the fella have 18+ T3 bomber and 50 T3 fighter, he'll probably take you down too. sad.gif or easily 1 portion of the fatboy is taken down. 6x T3 bomber on each fatboy and it's pretty much settled on most of them. the 50 T3 fighters can harass the rest or add the confusion.

if we consider same amound of resource, then a bunch of fast moving T3 / T2 bots would be helpful. coming in from multiple directions.

this is the thing that makes SupComm really nice. biggrin.gif elevation is critical!
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Lets skip the talk and try out the real action shall we? rclxms.gif thumbup.gif
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post Nov 26 2008, 06:38 PM

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hehe. just theory. while T4 units are great, I think ultimately the game relies most on T3 and T2 units.
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post Nov 27 2008, 06:15 AM

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QUOTE(Edison83 @ Nov 26 2008, 06:20 PM)
if u not interested in RTS, u can always try this adventure games that use ur brain to super max

Sherlock Holmes Series, Syberia 1 & 2, Still Life....

playing sherlock holmes guranteee u brain will explode
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someone say adventure games that uses brains to the max? do i hear Monkey Island, Sam & Max calling?
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post Nov 27 2008, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(rebelsoul76 @ Nov 27 2008, 06:15 AM)
someone say adventure games that uses brains to the max? do i hear Monkey Island, Sam & Max calling?


let's not forget Indy Jones : Fate of Atlantis, and Loom.......... among many other Lucasarts games. smile.gif Sierra adventures are not bad too.

but that's going off-topic la.

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post Nov 27 2008, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 26 2008, 06:17 PM)
this is the thing that makes SupComm really nice. biggrin.gif
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Ahhhhh....

I want to play Sup Com now.You 2 are asking me indirectly to get Sup Com too.

Gonna buy the combo pack when i see it being sold cheaply in EB or when they have the cheap RM40 budget version. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 27 2008, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 26 2008, 06:38 PM)
hehe. just theory. while T4 units are great, I think ultimately the game relies most on T3 and T2 units.
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Acctually for most of the games played by top ranked players they finish the games with T1 unless its not a 1 v 1 map.

FA is even more T1 based I feel.

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post Nov 27 2008, 03:42 PM

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commandos can be considered as rts??? i think that game is hard too..
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Yes. Top ranked players all finish at T1 or T2 before you can even build T3.
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QUOTE(Amedion @ Nov 27 2008, 03:45 PM)
Yes. Top ranked players all finish at T1 or T2 before you can even build T3.
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Ahh you....
Hi have not seen you for a while, it was fun last time when I played with u. I guess Im worse off now. sad.gif
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Not playing supreme commander already. Guess I am worse too. smile.gif
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post Nov 28 2008, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Nov 27 2008, 12:13 PM)
Acctually for most of the games played by top ranked players they finish the games with T1 unless its not a 1 v 1 map.

FA is even more T1 based I feel.
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QUOTE(Amedion @ Nov 27 2008, 03:45 PM)
Yes. Top ranked players all finish at T1 or T2 before you can even build T3.
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indeed. T1 can do many things already.

which brings up my experience with my friends, i think i highlighted earlier.

they're just so not aggressive. i can finish off an AI in 5 minutes using T1 a few units and a cmdr rush, without it dying.

if all of them played like me, we finish the game in 5 minutes. 7 minutes tops.

unfortunately these guys let 2 other AI run free. so it goes back to 2 vs 2 since i'm already behind in development while another guy is pretty slow. argghh vmad.gif

even if we play NO RUSH mode, fine - in 20 minutes I'll get my 1st T4 and already beat the crap outta one AI and could easily take on another. unfortunately again, as the above. smile.gif


QUOTE(skystrike @ Nov 27 2008, 03:42 PM)
commandos can be considered as rts??? i think that game is hard too..
don't think so la but arguably it can and should be categorized as one. it's REAL TIME and it's STRATEGY.

on the counter point, all games nowadays are REAL TIME and require STRATEGY. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 28 2008, 06:11 PM)
indeed. T1 can do many things already.

which brings up my experience with my friends, i think i highlighted earlier.

they're just so not aggressive. i can finish off an AI in 5 minutes using T1 a few units and a cmdr rush, without it dying.

if all of them played like me, we finish the game in 5 minutes. 7 minutes tops.

unfortunately these guys let 2 other AI run free. so it goes back to 2 vs 2 since i'm already behind in development while another guy is pretty slow. argghh  vmad.gif

even if we play NO RUSH mode, fine - in 20 minutes I'll get my 1st T4 and already beat the crap outta one AI and could easily take on another. unfortunately again, as the above. smile.gif
don't think so la but arguably it can and should be categorized as one. it's REAL TIME and it's STRATEGY.

on the counter point, all games nowadays are REAL TIME and require STRATEGY. tongue.gif
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I guess your friends are not up to the internet standard of building stuff or arranging their troops, maybe commander goldfries should make them get seasoned. brows.gif
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This become Topic of Supreme commande discustion already?
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Heh. Relax, the topic will be back on course after somebody introduce another RTS game in their opinion. nod.gif nod.gif

In the meantime, well I guess we're stuck with SupCom for the time being. blush.gif
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Nov 29 2008, 06:56 PM)
I guess your friends are not up to the internet standard of building stuff or arranging their troops, maybe commander goldfries should make them get seasoned. brows.gif


tried. many times. after few years and many RTS - i kinda give up and decide they play their own.

i can adapt to them, they don't adapt that well.

and quite often they stick to their 1 race. boring. biggrin.gif

i vs the stronger guy in C&C3 - what happened was he used Scrin (his strongest) and i used NOD (my weakest) and i pwnzed him on 2 games straight. first game is a rocket cycle rush. tongue.gif a lot of hit and run to cripple him. haha. 2nd game, fine - he managed to tech up despite my best harassment and he had a few tripod at my base. WTH!?!?! game almost over but luckily i got a few barracks and spam rocket soldier - yay! manage to take them down and have enough $$$ to get an engineer into one of them. brows.gif

he on the other hand had spent all his $$$, with me destroying his harvester and tech facility i think. so it was GG for him.

the other guy (easier target) i played C&C:Generals with him for fun. start the game, i keep spamming GLA suicide bomber bikes. haha. spam only. the fella turtle away in fear and build defences only while i expand my resources area. brows.gif after my scud launcher trucks come, it's pretty much bye bye for his side. oh let's forget the gattlers and infantry surrounding the camp.

then again, i not so good vs human wan la.

QUOTE(RegentCid @ Nov 29 2008, 07:22 PM)
This become Topic of Supreme commande discustion already?
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post Dec 1 2008, 09:41 AM

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Test strategy? You want super AI? Try Empire Earth 1, normal AI (not expert) and very large map.


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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Dec 1 2008, 09:41 AM)
Test strategy? You want super AI? Try Empire Earth 1, normal AI (not expert) and very large map.
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Empire Earth AI was just cheating even on easy mode. Because I had their peasants harassed and kinda killed them off but still capable of producing multiple units. It's like the game developer gave them alot of resources.

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