So ive played alot of dota games with my friends. We are mix up malay and chinese player, and Im a malay myself. Whenever we are together we always use Bahasa Malaysia to chat and almost always there will be one or two player start calling names like Melayu Noob malaU babi (till now dont know why they think babi is an insulting words to us ffs its just an animal that we cant eat haha) and etc..
We usually ignore them..if we are hosting we will kick that player first (usually they start calling names after the countdown starts..heh)

The thing here, I just wondering why is this happening in a peaceful country like Malaysia. I'm not ignorant so yes I know bout all the political staffs but why must bring it ingames? I have never ever seen a malay player insult the chinese players whenever they say them using chinese words. Usually our chinese friends defended us ingame like lanC back to them lol but hey..I knot its just a game and I will never remember their nick after the game is over so me and my fren will ignore the insults but sumtimes it can be too much. Dont matter if were winning or losing..the lanC never ends lol.

So why is this happening in our gaming community (dota specifically) nowadays and how to rectify it? ignore it? scold back? leave game?

Hope no flame post in here but oh well I know it cant be helped

Well, I don't racist myself. But if u see carefully, most of DotA players are Chinese. As majority (in game) of course they'll think they're ruling, bla bla bla etc.

Don't worry, not all of DotA gamers or other games gamers are like that, some of us really not racist. Maybe u just met the bad 1

if you are sick and tired of the racism, stop playing then. Cuz they think they are superior than others.

Lol...these are people who make a fuss over :

1. Leavers
2. KS-ers
3. Pwners
4. Pros
5. N00bs

They swear in a game more then an entire Eminem album...did u expect anything better from them.

Some of them also condone violence in a public area (such as CCs) so...this is considered mild case

This post has been edited by radkliler: Nov 6 2008, 10:27 AM

DotA community,in general,have lots of attitude problems.

If it bother you so much,then,dont play.There are other games out there.

Simple.

kinda hate this kind of situation, just a game, why need to X here X there.

Last time , when i play at my campus, at that time mostly kaki dota were malays.
So when i joined the game, mostly chinese also will be insulted by them and say babi cina. (1 or 2 chinese)
So there is no difference whose the person is malay or chinese or indian, important is we were not racist even the people keep insult us with abusive language.

sorry to break it to ya but most dota players are frickin rude!...this b****es have no sportmanship whatsoever....thats why i stopped playing this custom map long time ago

This post has been edited by Pro-MX: Nov 6 2008, 04:47 PM

X here X there ask mom ask dad only is play game ma..... play game must like tat only fun and happy

they r quite rude n most of them r dotard
juz ignore them
n use english in game community sometimes i meet with those thai or viet omg they talking to themself oni sia?

Dotards will never learn

both parties also have racist, but strangely only the chinese and malay community is the ones in dota gaming, never the indians.
anyway here's a clear example of how racism starts in dota gaming community.

the attachment contain a log that is taken from GG (Garena) client. shame on them!!!!

This post has been edited by sidthesloth: Nov 8 2008, 12:24 AM

hmm... when i play dota, i meet so many stupid dotard racist say melayu b**i.
i dunno why they hate malay so much. normally i hit them back... can some1 tell why some (retard) chinese hate malay?

There is another problem worse then this racism thing.

Case is like this. You lost a game. The next minute, he will be spamming me with stuffs like this; Noob clan, stop dota la, etc.
Just because u won, doesnt mean u are the pronest to all d la. And when we offered another game to them, they entered, in this time of the game, we are all pissed by this particular one. When the game start, we started the aim for him only. I will be the Stealth Assasin walking in forest hunting him down as food, note, he is a naix, he farm forest, so its easy for me to find him.
But then we were too ignorant to the Phantom Assasin, he went fat, and we lost the game
Note, the one that called us noob score was 1-12.

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Added on November 8, 2008, 7:32 amim chinese myself, and I hardly scold anyone in DoTA, but then the ones that i really scold and curse him (babi) is those that, kill you once, he call himself pro and say u noob, ask u to stop playing dota. And whenever i ask"are u malay?" He sure answer yes one. That is to prove all the ones that DOTARDS-Behavioured are mostly malay!

This post has been edited by IcyDarling: Nov 8 2008, 07:32 AM

Yup.
yours is just a normal case.
you never heard people got whack up before after the DOTA games?
In ruler areas, I've heard of such cases due to irresponsible or flaming back at other people words.
They played together happily and end up got whacked up after the game ends.
Most of them are malay.

Wow.. I guess this is part of their life.. Since they take it so seriously..

memang lyk dat lah. im a chinese but oso dam sien adi.

everytime got racist scolding i will ask every1 shaddup.

but 1 kinda player i hate d most. is those chinese ah beng.

dey oni noe how 2 scold 1 way. coz their noobs.

everytime i kill them, dey scold NOOB. dey kill dey scold NOOB. everytin oso oni know how 2 say 1 word.

loser dotards. making our gaming community and educational standards luk so cacat.

oh well. thats life.

They are lifeless without having a good education in their life.

racism is getting bad nowdays...
really sucks..
ya i admit it, in the game alot of insulting the malays. i dunno y.. But most of them ending blaming the government and i conclude it that it was a political motive..

quoted for the truth
sometimes i ignoring themm...
but a human patient got its limit..

that chat log .. really2 bad, till religion also

Have you all thought that racism in DotA is caused by racism in real life, in Malaysia.

Look at this situation okay.

Coward Chinese were always insulted and bullied by Malay in real life. They did not have the guts to stand for their rights in real life. So in the end what do they do? They transfer that hate to somewhere nobody will know them, a place that they think they are good at it, DotA.

It takes 2 hands to clap.

Trust me, racism is almost everywhere in Malaysia. Almost everyday in real life I would hear Malays insulting Chinese, and almost everyday I would see Chinese insulting Malays in DotA.

I'm not trying to say that ALL Malays and Chinese are like that, but there are a large number of them like that.

The conclusion is, both sides are in the wrong, but it would only cause discomfort to victims like you, tajul182.

Then change. Dont just hope for change...start changing yourself and do something about it. The world is not gonna wait for us Malaysians to change our bad habits.

... Donno lor... this happen because no multiracial involvement in life.. Happen in both Malays and Chinese.. U can see for urself in life.. Malays with Malays. neigbouring with malays only. and chinese with chinese. but for my experience this is not happen.. Maybe because i've been with the indians and chinese as my next door neighbour and my best fren.Thus i can accept majority of the things although it's different in culture except certain things that cant be done in my religion.. But some of them (malays) such an idiot, they even have a superstitious thinking, even wishing Happy deepavali is forbidden.. Haizz.. This extreme thinking of religious is one of many factors where racism is happening..


Government should take important steps on it i think..

if Gov take action people will complaint..
whatever gov do is wrong..

zomg..... TS NOOB

Like that?

That's why other game is always more healthier than DotA. Like COD4

zzzz at least warcraft have races and compete with races =D

Quit playing lor. play something else

Ms dota player realy no hope la, alot like to harass malay for no reason

it's because there is a bigger evil in our country. It just shows malaysia has a lot of mentally ill people, people with a lot of resentment and anger, and it comes out in game - a place they can vent their anger.

It's very complex, I am not racist myself, but I have met many chinese AND malays who are racists.

You got your 'malay national schools' and 'chinese medium school'... good brew for racism. And politicians in our country who use racism to divide and control do not help either.

Perhaps you can make a stand by not being racist yourself, and educate your own kids in the future not to behave that way.

You should try to play Singapore games. I used to play with Singaporean players frequently 2 years ago, it seems like they hate Malay and Malaysians very much.

they are all leavers , but then malaysians keep disconnecting also cannot blame them for hating malaysians players

Well i have to say this is very true, from which 5year i experienced in my secondary Malays well not all but they seem to chinese as a joke, especially our language if you dont know it dont speak like you do! Even a small kid on the street did that when he bumped some chinese. Have no idea how they actualy lecture kids before school.

Same thing over chinese school, you actualy wouldnt miss a racism scene on others. Im tired of it, as usual i just act like nothing happened.

For DotA, i have a few Malay mates to play with and they often got threaten bad ingame but we just leave it except it gone too far and we gona fight back

One thing is, its a game try as much as possible not to be rude as them(racist player) what different of both side if you replied the same way they reply to you? And its a game! Concentrate on the gameplay, ignore the words, show them what you realy have to do after you or your parent pay so hard for internet and electric bills

i just keep my hand and finger on the shortcut key and mouse, and just read the game related msg only and ignore the rest. if every one do this, no one know who u are, Malay, Chinese ,Indian , vitet or Singapore, just stick to the game, cos u stared dota for the game and to further develop u the skill in the game. and not to be a racism. if i whant to be racism i join politic not only it pay better they no lever and wasting time for a full room.

It's interest to note that racism exists everywhere in the world but it depends how much of it is tolerated. I think people create stereotypes by nature and are some stereotypes are based on race. The fact that most people don't show this out explicitly is due to a few internal and external factors like the upbringing, the level of education and the level of social tolerance.

However, I think the real problem in the above situation is that the players are anonymous and hide behind a screen, thus able to avoid responsibility for their actions. This is also apparent in many other online sites like youtube where people are able to spam irresponsible statements. Same as in WC.

aiya, ppls say lots of crap when they are losing.

well the 1 that win also will start crap sometime lolz

Just ignore them
They just talk something they don even know

try play zion server than garena...well sadly,singaporeans have more 'polite' people...don't flame me...i'm just saying xD

haha me from zion also now its called zincplay
ya zinc not much racism cos there alwase got gm
u fight there get ban up to 10 days
but its connection not very good for us in malaysia.

i wan ask frog still alive???

kick racism out of Video Games!

lol...not just chinese fightwith malays...even some chinese argue with chinese...

Kick racism out of the goverment... LOL! If that also can't... what you expect from videogames?

Too many racist in dota..What will happen if we collect those racist proof and email it to ntv7 or tv3 news..heheheh...

just leave the game already...... play games that have more mature community like Tf2 etc.

dota = for dotards.

imagine they changed wc3 class [humans,night elf,dwarf] to malay,chinese,indian. ~.~

U left out 1 more race... Lain-lain... LOL!

if u ban dota in msia
what will dotards eat?
they depend on tourney money to survive in real life
they aint working coz they dont have any skill except playing dota n insult other ppl.
WOW >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DOTA

Normally people who go "cina babi" "noob punya cina"

are normally chinese themselves and pretend that they are malay like its

entertaining or sumthing.

then when some unsuspecting idiot comes along and curse back melayu p***

they will laugh their arses off..

seen it happen a few times in pj and wangsa maju and cheras cc d.

aih teenagers with too much time

nobody will get banned from dota, they will just change name and rejoin. especially those noobs from cc. u kick from for leaving. they change another name and rejoin and u dun even know that is them =.=!

i think if WOW's race changed to chinese,malay,indian,lain lain, then it should change name to World of Malaysian.

you do that, and the next thing you know, they'll say it's the fault of cybercafes and pass a new bill to close cybercafes at 8pm or something...

biasa d la, everyday also can see racism in dota.

cause its about politic.

even im nt malay,but my nick is malay. i usually got kicked by malay name..

hahaha.then in game i will bm them!>bad manner
haha...but worse is malay la.

i rarely see chinese fite wit fren...they jz fite with outsiders.usualy ah beng

but malay is damn stupid...if they lose game..they will scold other and..keep racist them...im indian...i used to play dota with chinese = no problem...but with malay is sien...noob + talk cock...+ racist.

even they fite among frens..

cause i pawned them.and they fite with me after game -__-

so..malay racist more teruk then chinese

so noo need juz point out to chinese.

Babi Bristleback! lol on a serious note, the last time I played there was this guy keep calling everyone noob. He did that in Malay and spoke profanity whenever he died (Which is often, as he is a super feeder <1-5 kills 30-40 deaths, can't remember> ).

noob oni did like that

u cant take something for granted just because he curse "cina b***" so he is a malay... or "malay noob" so he is a chinese.. anybody can be anyone in virtual world.. who knows.. if u're matured enough then show how matured u are.. i had this experience where i saw bunch of kids, dunno maybe about 12-15 yrs old playing dota.. got malay and chinese and they're cursing each other while laughing in the cc.. u see, thats the reality beyond the virtual world that we "live" in.. so just be matured and think matured.. its not always about politic or so.. its about maturity

i smell racism in this thread.

zzzzzzzz
dota pun mau lawan

dota = emo game

people with bad attitude will always find something to scold about.
i really dont understand :/
chill and ignore
not all dota players are as rude

Sometimes u really lag then u died,they say u cari alasan....like just now....

i will scold ppl when i do mistake to cover my mistake so that people will think the guy i scold is doing the mistakes

yeah
altho laggers are annoying, it's not always their/our fault.
have to consider the weather, streamyx and the host

yerp... agree with dat...
some playa are juz kids... they not very matured yet....

+1

well happens to me too
i was speaking malay with my cousin over bnet, and this dude heard us and start calling us babi m****u the whole game..damn annoying
and as if the malays hutang him, he came ks all my creeps and kills
and he speaks thru the All channel cursing us etcs

now behold...the best part...me n my cousin are chinese

This post has been edited by Dark Lynx: Dec 9 2008, 11:27 AM

hahhah i did that too
my friends and i were using malay screennames
and we were scolded for no reason O_O

and yes im chinese too

Just call Them " Racist basta*d" -=,-

This post has been edited by Pain4UrsinZ: Dec 10 2008, 02:34 AM

this is part of life

LIVE YOUR LIFE TO DA MAX thats wat i heard everyday in my car FlyFm of course

I think there IS a command to disable those chatting messages... But overall, playing with close-friends are better off. Today I pwn you and tommorow you pwn me back... Then go have a kopi-o and chatting all about the previous games... Well, this is us. Then meet another team from same college, yo DTM vs DKE (Diploma IT and Diploma Kejuruteraan Elektrik) ... LOL ~

We're having inter college competition next month... Duh I'm too noob leh, have fun lor =)

all this problem only cause by 1 reason: BN.

Racists ~~ Assume one day every race has to fight to get their own lands,wtf? u wan that to happen? WoW WoW wuuuuu yeah those retards 'i like wars.Win own all YES!'.

After a few day of that war,suffer wan eat food that time eat wat? eat precious ka-boom explosives then your relatives are dead.

wat now? happy enough?OK u no feeling nvm but u sure got ur own religion i thought u believe in ur *****ng god u kills many so sin or no sin

OK nvm again ur god created humans as u BELIEVE so ignoring them wat have u become?Free thoughts? OK nvm after that war u eat what?

economy crisis and ur land all YOURS full of gore corpses happy? just skin colour different but we are still humans

why dont we just unite together to make the environment greener? talk bout skin colour but wasting earth resources and polluting environment

now already some country suffering food crisis appreciate your god what u get still ask for more?

as a human urself help the others whenever possible try ur best

nature is dying global warming cause of wat? reunite make the earth a better place for human to live


Even someone is insulting you why must insult his race? significant? insult him back his person is enough

dont think its great or fun during war,suffer that wound die in pain.buy food not arms,they are not consumable


green environment@corruption-free@prolonged life@safe world to stay

humans remove same shit but from different ass holes

This post has been edited by JONNYHULK: Dec 18 2008, 05:14 AM

to be honest, this happen both way, chinese insult malay, malay insult chinese, but the question is why here in game?who start 1st?my guess is nobody start 1st but it has already started outside of game, each every one of us, eventhough you say u r not a racist, but deep down inside you, sure got this tiny little feeling, the feeling of not going along with another race, if not a big feeling, then it is a small felling, but the point is sure got this feeling. why? bcoz this is normal, bcoz we r human with races.

im a malay myself, u see reply at the top, few chinese using malay name got flame n curse, i myself too sumtimes use chinese nickname, u want to know why? bcoz if game see me have malay name surely will kick me, i'm not saying i'm a noob, i have been playing for 4 years, then y this kicking? is this what malaysia is about? they say it is a free country, but not all is free, even playing dota need to use chinese name, funny isn't it.

then again, people will say this is all goverment wrong. but then again when goverment want to build only one school for all, lots of chinese, indias, including malays protesting. why ha? say only want to prevent racistsm, but see la. no need explanation, u guys can see.y? can ask urself? y like this?

this thing hapening in dota is no big deal lah, bcoz actually whats hapening outside in the real world is more bigger and can get you kill. it must start from your own hearts, and mine to change. if just hoping other poeple to change ha, sorry to say, it will never be.

100% agree with u..when people insult me malay noob i ask them back..y malay cant play dota ar?(and i sure pawn him 99 )i play dota 3 years already and have so many chinese friends..and they know me malay and still respect me.and im lucky to be friend with them lol.sumtimes we speak malay and sumtime manglish lorr..

btw,we are human lorr..if u racist..go die la u..live this world alone.

i do agree with TS ... some ppl tend to be racist but not all are like them but this have already gave some bad impression to both parties. What we see now is reality. Yeah, its hard to accept ... but when this happens to me .. i just close one eye and hope to pawn that racist as much as possible lol!!

i am a neutral.. but i will curse anyone who starts to use race as a reason to curse someone else. regardless of their race.

a lack of reliability in game or teamwork shouldnt be a reason for someone to curse other people's race !

what i mean is, i cant tolerate any racism in games. some idiots will never change until something really important happens. i dont care whether he/she hates other people from different race, just dont let other people see until they are look so Fk-ing obvious.

anyway, this problem is getting worse in certain parts of Malaysia but some parts in Malaysia also are getting better.

PLKN is one way of the many ways to eliminate racism.

Parents have to play a big role in educating their offsprings about race and racism. But if the parents is a racist, then there is a high probability that their children following their footsteps. BUT NOT ALL will Follow their parents footsteps.

Some will become racist by themselves, some will change to be a better person by themselves.


This is the last thing i want to point out,

Maybe you are not a racist, but you are Chinese. Suddenly, some ******* which is not a Chinese, calls you some racist word. Certainly, you would get angry and start to curse them back according to their Race.

Maybe you are not a racist, but you are Malay. Suddenly, some ******* which is not a Malay, calls you some racist word. Certainly, you would get angry and start to curse them back according to their Race.

Maybe you are not a racist, but you are Indian. Suddenly, some ******* which is not a Indian, calls you some racist word. Certainly, you would get angry and start to curse them back according to their Race.

THIS IS THE PROBLEM ! You shouldn't be calling them using racist words or phrases eventhough they called you using a racist word. Just try letting them go, Or better, PUNCH THEM IN THE FACE and tell this to that person "if you want to curse people race, then you go other country. I have no problem with your race. Infact, i have friends which are the same race with you and they are 100x more better than you. I have a problem with you cursing people with racist words. Regardless of your religion, race, i will hit your face until you realize that you shouldn't be cursing people using racist words."

BUT make sure that you are Fk-ing strong to beat that person up. If you're not, then walk away.

This post has been edited by xelnamikaze: Dec 19 2008, 11:57 PM

QFT!
ive read all the post here and decided the best thing to do is just ignore these people and dont add oil to the fire. and another thing that i did was joining the high level room where the people is much more matured (and less leaver!)

if anyone of you interested to add me in g.g just pm me (any race can haha) im sure we could catch a game or two in the future

No more flying spaghetti monster still have racism in dota? wow.

racism ? biaserla ..

i used to speak malay to tease those dota players in lan/urpro .. with my gangs ..

then they all started to curse us when they losing .. eg : babi lu malay go die la or blablablabla .

then our gang speak back cantonese they all was like WTF .. malunyerr!! hahahaaaa ..

but that's the ugly side of malaysian

dont talk bout racism lar.... the thing is some players are very rude... curse non-stop... from the timer starts till the end of the game... lol.. learn some manners lar...

yaa, why dont everyone enjoy the game peacefuly, its not realy a big deal till to d extend of racism..it jus a game..

LOL~, Last Time I join Bnet Lorderon || Azeroth, u can get what the 1337 language by them which really make u WTF? BTW, at bnet had u ever seen a game title name as "Democratic VS Replubic" ? U might see local DotA server hosting game title name is "Melayu vs Cina", but u never see "India VS XXX" or "Dan Lain - lain VS XXX".

This post has been edited by cinbao: Dec 29 2008, 06:11 PM

Seriously I hope all you players of all races don't take racism in games personally.

I have a friend who likes to act as a Malay in DotA games (so that people will kinda underestimate his DotA gaming abilities, dunno why he thinks like that) and he curses a lot in games. He just loves provoking people during gaming, it's nothing personal really.

So I hope you guys will just ignore it and don't let a few trouble makers damage the relationships between races okay? It's bad enough as it is already.

dont worry even Yamateh likes to pretend as malay to provoke people in public games

This post has been edited by Flizzardo: Dec 30 2008, 01:08 AM

mindcry will be back.

in game everyone is equal, no special rights for those who think they are superior in this country, stop blaming other races, if you are pro, then no ppl will scold you, and dota is a english game, stop using other language, other language is impolite to other who didnt understand it, as you know, the language is not popular

lol what i say is maybe some of the malays in malaysia thinks that they are the kings of malaysia [ no offence ]
So some them like to bully Us chinese Or like ( ejek ) ...
I'm No racist...maybe U met those ( Ah Bengs ) ...lol
Peace Dude...

JerZ

Ejeks by Malays in Malaysia very normal la. Go where also can see, but they just ejek, nothing much.

teh problem is , they don't understand what we're talking and what we're pointing to.
i tried before and guess what i got for their replies?

>>>> DIAM LA Me**** BABI
>>>> GO BACK INDON

racism? its just suck. you'll find this prob anywhere around earth XD. its just happen in dota since you are flaming someone you didnt know. i dont think such thing will happen when they are meeting front to front though.

I love racist fights. It just makes the game more interesting.

all this problem comes because ppl like you exist

Lol. It intensifies the game so u can play even harder.

Dam u kno0w wat will hapen after this fight ?
.......one small F**K word will also cous fights leh

only morons will react to the msgs in dota game lulz ... unless its about ganking or gb an enemy i wont reply ... i wont bother also ..

i will continue to tell my partner in my lane and say i b or hero missing .. but they still b**** ahhah .. i wont help lulz .. i will KS him or her hahaha

LOL!!!
this thread is funny. and fun too!

i dont have much to say.i usually ignore racist in dota.

I'm a malay. who teach me dota? chinese called ah long from melaka.
i go back home at KL, i teached a chinese at gombak named Guan.
I played with all malay at kepong.
then i further study, mmu, played with a lot of chinese, brian, eddie and so on.

I go back melaka, i can beat ah long d.
I go gombak, guan beat me ady. cb u!
At mmu, never win. Bwaahaha!!

What i'm trying to say is, LONG LIVE DOTA!!!!

post a screenshot so that all can see how stupid and intolerant people who play racist!

DAMN THEM!

play for integrity, not for fighting!