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post Apr 17 2009, 12:44 AM

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13k for 4 wow. Is that the amount you bringing home or it was the sum of the money you made in 4 months?
I have taken living expenses into equation and I can hardly come out with more than 2k a month.
Btw your employer doesn't tax you?

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QUOTE(XxAC3xX @ Apr 17 2009, 12:11 AM)
yeah sure a nice exp!  thumbup.gif
takin off dis tuesday? bring me along plz?  biggrin.gif
happy journey bro


Added on April 17, 2009, 12:20 amehh btw, do i nid to speak extraordinary english while interview?
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tq tq ^^ it is 0 celcius there now.. hope i can take it XD

err.. u wanna stay inside my luggage bag?

ermm.. not the employment interview but the embassy visa interview... if they think u cant converse properly then they might not issue u a visa.. but that's very rare... a little english will do

QUOTE(Anni @ Apr 17 2009, 12:44 AM)
13k for 4 wow. Is that the amount you bringing home or it was the sum of the money you made in 4 months?
I have taken living expenses into equation and I can hardly come out with more than 2k a month.
Btw your employer doesn't tax you?
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i left it in my us bank acc... i made total 12k wage + 3k tips.. after tax n expenses i made 13k usd ^^

ermm.. if u r studying the most u can make is 800usd.. but if u work like me 12 hours 6 days.. u will be able to make like 3k a month.. my friend works like crazy makes 4.5k.. sometimes we dont really work but just stay at the work place n get paid.. lol

we get tax.. from my 12k wage i got tax 1.1k.... so that means i take back 10.1k... but when i claim my tax back i claim 1.4k back.. lol.. what a joke.. please dont tell IRS, as i claim as a resident.. ahhahaa.. some ppl even worse claim their tax + 700usd.. lol.. instead of paying tax they pay u back with even more $$$
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post Apr 17 2009, 01:00 AM

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Wow SeLrAhC , thats awesome. Hehe.
Do you have experience working in NZ before? biggrin.gif
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post Apr 17 2009, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(Massa @ Apr 17 2009, 01:00 AM)
Wow SeLrAhC , thats awesome. Hehe.
Do you have experience working in NZ before? biggrin.gif
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the agency i went with does provide jobs for students in NZ... but the job isnt too attractive.. more of working in farms milking cows n picking orange... i rather work in starbucks where i can just laze around...

my father studied in NZ, and i definately want to go there with him after my studies... very beautiful there

the place i am going to is also beautiful ^^
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post Apr 17 2009, 01:03 AM

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wow, then if i go 4 times n earn 35kusd, then when i graduate i ma cn drive a honda d? rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Apr 17 2009, 01:02 AM)
the agency i went with does provide jobs for students in NZ... but the job isnt too attractive.. more of working in farms milking cows n picking orange... i rather work in starbucks where i can just laze around...

my father studied in NZ, and i definately want to go there with him after my studies... very beautiful there

the place i am going to is also beautiful ^^
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Yeah. Agreed.
Hey btw , just out of curiousity , which uni did your father entered ya?
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post Apr 17 2009, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(XxAC3xX @ Apr 17 2009, 01:03 AM)
wow, then if i go 4 times n earn 35kusd, then when i graduate i ma cn drive a honda d?  rclxms.gif
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if u study in cheaper local uni u can even settle ur tuition fees without even needing ur parents to pay for ya ^^

QUOTE(Massa @ Apr 17 2009, 01:08 AM)
Yeah. Agreed.
Hey btw , just out of curiousity , which uni did your father entered ya?
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massy university ... studied food science
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post Apr 17 2009, 06:54 AM

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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Apr 16 2009, 11:57 AM)
we get tax.. from my 12k wage i got tax 1.1k.... so that means i take back 10.1k... but when i claim my tax back i claim 1.4k back.. lol.. what a joke.. please dont tell IRS, as i claim as a resident.. ahhahaa.. some ppl even worse claim their tax + 700usd.. lol.. instead of paying tax they pay u back with even more $$$
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you will get full tax refund if you did not get the amount they set up. you claim it with social security not your status.

10k in 4 months is really good money. For instance a director who makes 5k a month will only take home 2.5-3k+ depends on the insurance and stuff. you work as waiter right?

this spring is weird, its mid april now and it is still chilly.
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post Apr 17 2009, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(Anni @ Apr 17 2009, 06:54 AM)
you will get full tax refund if you did not get the amount they set up. you claim it with social security not your status. 

10k in 4 months is really good money. For instance a director who makes 5k a month will only take home 2.5-3k+ depends on the insurance and stuff. you work as waiter right?

this spring is weird, its mid april now and it is still chilly.
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yea.. but if u claim in the in tax refund form as a resident.. you will get an extra 300usd on top of the full tax refund.. some states even more at 700... isnt that great thumbup.gif

ermm.. no really waiter.... barista XD

at my place there's no spring or autumn... it is winter or summer.. n the summer it colder than most places' winter.. lol
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post Apr 17 2009, 10:29 AM

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well everyone is eligible for the 300 stimulus check as long as the tax is filed.

wow when will alaska goes like no nights and no days?

seriously i hate cold weather, and you like it lol? are you malaysian? lol
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post Apr 17 2009, 10:42 AM

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satu soalan
why most people think that "western country" is EVERYTHING
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post Apr 17 2009, 11:50 AM

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you in berlin for some reason too.
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SeLrAhC, got sum questions here :
-when we're in USA studyin, roughly hw much cn i earn frm the part time job per month? hw much is the expenses per month? it wont affect my studies 1 rite?
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QUOTE(Anni @ Apr 17 2009, 10:29 AM)
well everyone is eligible for the 300 stimulus check as long as the tax is filed.

wow when will alaska goes like no nights and no days?

seriously i hate cold weather, and you like it lol? are you malaysian? lol
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no lor.. if u fill in a msian address u wont get d extra 300, u must put a US address

now lor... 23 hours day.. lol.. gila how 2 sleep doh.gif

errr.. i dont like it also... but msia too hot lar.. on air cond waste $$$, there cold wear thicker only.. free somemore thumbup.gif

i m msian lar... with all d msian bad habits ^^ thumbup.gif

QUOTE(adix4 @ Apr 17 2009, 10:42 AM)
satu soalan
why most people think that "western country" is EVERYTHING
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errr... they are more advance? hmm.gif no leh.. eastern country also not too bad

QUOTE(XxAC3xX @ Apr 17 2009, 04:26 PM)
SeLrAhC, got sum questions here :
-when we're in USA studyin, roughly hw much cn i earn frm the part time job per month? hw much is the expenses per month? it wont affect my studies 1 rite?
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max is 20 hours, depends on ur wage lor... lowest i think is 7usd/hour... highest so far is 45usd/hour... estimate u can earn around 800usd, which is enough to cover lodging n food... expenses around 1kusd... nope, shouldnt affect much
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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Apr 17 2009, 04:55 PM)
no lor.. if u fill in a msian address u wont get d extra 300, u must put a US address

now lor... 23 hours day.. lol.. gila how 2 sleep  doh.gif

errr.. i dont like it also... but msia too hot lar.. on air cond waste $$$, there cold wear thicker only.. free somemore  thumbup.gif

i m msian lar... with all d msian bad habits ^^  thumbup.gif
errr... they are more advance?  hmm.gif  no leh.. eastern country also not too bad
max is 20 hours, depends on ur wage lor... lowest i think is 7usd/hour... highest so far is 45usd/hour... estimate u can earn around 800usd, which is enough to cover lodging n food... expenses around 1kusd... nope, shouldnt affect much
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ic...thx 4 the info bro! smile.gif

well, i checked a INTI college brochure, it states tat tuition fees + expenditure is approx. rm85k per yr (really? taylor's state its 100k-140k per yr shocking.gif )
so 2yrs is rm170k...my parents cn prepare me rm90k(hope so..)...hmm the remaining rm70k i hav to come out wif myself d...><
frm wat u said....i work part time thr to cover my expenses...so :

800USD(in come per month?) X 12(12 months) X 3.5(exchg rate into MYR) X 2(2yrs) = RM67200
then RM170k - RM67200 - RM90k = RM12800
when sem break cn work 40hrs/week rite..so i thk cn cover d? hmm.gif

SeLrAhC, clarify me if i gt any flaw in my calculations plz..

the Work n Travel USA part, i dun thk cn make it as i checked Taylor's academic yr, the sem break max is 1 month oni whr they require at least 2 to 3 months of employment...
-oh yea, do the work n travel programme sponsore our USA flight tickets? if no then... shocking.gif
-hw did u hav a 4 month sem break 1? hmm.gif
-if i doin foundation in engineering in nottingham(1 yr programme)...m i eligible for the programme? since they state at least 2 yrs...bt ill continue my degree for another 3yrs after my foundation...

sry SeLrAhC for my numbers of questions yea...bt since ure quite experienced in ths...plz clarify me on ths b4 u took off to USA again... notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(XxAC3xX @ Apr 18 2009, 12:54 AM)
ic...thx 4 the info bro!  smile.gif

well, i checked a INTI college brochure, it states tat tuition fees + expenditure is approx. rm85k per yr (really? taylor's state its 100k-140k per yr shocking.gif )
so 2yrs is rm170k...my parents cn prepare me rm90k(hope so..)...hmm the remaining rm70k i hav to come out wif myself d...><
frm wat u said....i work part time thr to cover my expenses...so :

800USD(in come per month?) X 12(12 months) X 3.5(exchg rate into MYR) X 2(2yrs) = RM67200
then RM170k - RM67200 - RM90k = RM12800
when sem break cn work 40hrs/week rite..so i thk cn cover d?  hmm.gif

SeLrAhC, clarify me if i gt any flaw in my calculations plz..

the Work n Travel USA part, i dun thk cn make it as i checked Taylor's academic yr, the sem break max is 1 month oni whr they require at least 2 to 3 months of employment...
-oh yea, do the work n travel programme sponsore our USA flight tickets? if no then... shocking.gif
-hw did u hav a 4 month sem break 1?  hmm.gif
-if i doin foundation in engineering in nottingham(1 yr programme)...m i eligible for the programme? since they state at least 2 yrs...bt ill continue my degree for another 3yrs after my foundation...

sry SeLrAhC for my numbers of questions yea...bt since ure quite experienced in ths...plz clarify me on ths b4 u took off to USA again... notworthy.gif
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i think 100 k/year is an realistic amount for fees + living.

i think you should be able to cover based on that calculation. during summer i think you can work full time outside not just 40h/w if u had at least 9months of classes. u will be given j-1 visa i think. if you dont have enough 9 months, you will be able to work full time, but in campus only.

yea.. adp dont have long breaks, but to differ 1 sem is all worth it. u differ one time during ur 1st year, and while waiting to enter US you can go for a 2nd time.
-no they dont sponsor, it is around 3-5k for a return ticket. but you should still be able to make lots of $$$.
-i am from monash, so we have long summer breaks.. lol
-yes, if you're malaysians. foreign students need to at least study 2 years in msia

just glad to help ^^ i had to take the hard path through life and i hope you young ones out there dont have to suffer like i do and miss out all the good things in life ^^
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ahh...im in a hassle nw...!! nott foundation programme goin commence on 20th april! n the sem break is on 12/7 to 27/9 when i cn join the summer programme!!
-cn i register n join the programme nw?? when do i go 4 the interview?
-i dun hav visa or passport! hw long it takes to get them?
-wat shud i prepare b4 goin? wat r the things tat i shud bring along??? ahhh..so hectic!! tell me plz...SeLrAhC
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ahh...im in a hassle nw...!! nott foundation programme goin commence on 20th april! n the sem break is on 12/7 to 27/9 when i cn join the summer programme!!
-cn i register n join the programme nw?? when do i go 4 the interview?
-i dun hav visa or passport! hw long it takes to get them?
-wat shud i prepare b4 goin? wat r the things tat i shud bring along??? ahhh..so hectic!! tell me plz...SeLrAhC
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lol.. a lot of nottingham students go for the program in fact nott is the main source of participants... 60% of the students from msia that goes on W&T is from nott... ask students there, they all know about the program.

yes u can, dont wry. just email this lady called vernie my.enquiry@speedwing.org ... tell her charles introduced u and u need VIP service ^^ she will give u all d info

passport better apply now, u will need it eventually even if you are not going to W&T, err... i dunno lor.. passport either 3 days or 3 months

slowly ler.. u email her 1st, she will give u all d info XD
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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Apr 18 2009, 06:38 PM)
lol.. a lot of nottingham students go for the program in fact nott is the main source of participants... 60% of the students from msia that goes on W&T is from nott... ask students there, they all know about the program.

yes u can, dont wry. just email this lady called vernie  my.enquiry@speedwing.org  ... tell her charles introduced u and u need VIP service ^^ she will give u all d info

passport better apply now, u will need it eventually even if you are not going to W&T, err... i dunno lor.. passport either 3 days or 3 months

slowly ler.. u email her 1st, she will give u all d info XD
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any tips to work wif which employer to earn better n whr de? las vegas cn a, charles? biggrin.gif
erm, if i go thr work 2 months, izzit worth the air ticket?
do the employer provide us accomodation n meals? or we hav to pay ourself, hw much roughly then?
m i too young(18yr o) to participate? ever seen a 18 student joined? my mum doesnt seem to blieve dis programme pulak(takut saya kena tipu)....zzz doh.gif

im askin so much.... sweat.gif doh.gif

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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Apr 18 2009, 06:38 PM)
lol.. a lot of nottingham students go for the program in fact nott is the main source of participants... 60% of the students from msia that goes on W&T is from nott... ask students there, they all know about the program.

yes u can, dont wry. just email this lady called vernie  my.enquiry@speedwing.org  ... tell her charles introduced u and u need VIP service ^^ she will give u all d info

passport better apply now, u will need it eventually even if you are not going to W&T, err... i dunno lor.. passport either 3 days or 3 months

slowly ler.. u email her 1st, she will give u all d info XD
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SeLrAhC,

1) Great story!!! Congratulation!!

2) Would you mind summarizing the strategy that you use to achieve your goal??

Is it??

A) Enroll in 2 + 2 ADP program or University of Nottingham or so on.

http://www.speedwing.org/

B) While in Malaysia, use the work and travel program to work in USA during summer. Earn and save the money.

C) Use the money to finance the university course in USA. Work in USA part-time during semester and full-time during summer.

D) Graduate with Bachelor degree -> go into Master

In my family situation, the later generation has an easier path. My family is spread across 30+ countries in the world. So, usually, there is someone that they can lived with. So, room and board is closed to free. So, as per USA, if the room and board is free and you go to community college, USD 10K per year is enough. If the person work a bit, we just need to sponsor 5K per year excluding room and board. So, it is not that much more than local IPTA.

But, we STILL have a bunch of failures. Our nephews were TOO LAZY. They just party and never show up for class. Our nieces are doing fine.

Dreamer

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