Now i was wondering...
is HDMI connector that important as a factor to purchase new LCD..
based on what kianwee said...u can get a converter if ur lcd doesnt have a HDMI connector...
My question is...did any1 try this before here and did any1 notice any problems like... decreased the image quality or sumthing?i once heard bout by doing so..u actually lowering the quality transferred...

My opinion towards the Static Ratio and Dynamic Ratio is...
nowadays most of the NEW LCDs are equipped with a 1000:1 static ratio panel..so the thing left for comparison is the dynamic ratio...
Samsung no doubt is good playing with it....i dun really notice the difference between 15000:1 and 20000:1...but i did notice SERIOUS difference between 8000:1 and 20000:1....
the colour is much shaper...
so it is still worth comparing...

2nd thing i wanna highlight is...
you can NEVER EVER compare LCDs side by side in lyp (at least)
they NEVER tune the LCD before...NEVER adjust any settings.....they just plug and play....so its kinda meaningless to compare side by side...

an example is....say for samsung LCD...if the option was set to "text"..this will dim all the backlights and show a pretty poor quality..but if the option was set to "game" or "dynamic contrast" there will be a significant difference....
those buggers in LYP obviously doesn't care..
how can u compare side by side in LYP like this??

Ok...lastly...im expressing my opinion on...
Dell S2409w (video mode) vs Samsung 2333sw (dynamic contrast)....
showing a same 700mb movie i downloaded >.<
its obvious samsung's 2333sw rox and won!!

Never tested any games though...
anyway for more info...dell S2409 although have an HDMI connector....but..there are no audio out..
my fren who bought it for his ps3 in his room was disappointed as he has to get his audio out somewhere else...>.<

This post has been edited by terryble: Feb 9 2009, 02:21 AM

Dude thanks for ur explaination on the HDMI cables..
very professional explaination...
so...my question to u is....
do PC users need to care about that so much...since most monitors doesnt even have speakers...
i know it is still good to have it....jus wondering its usefulness if it doesn't have any speakers...

Woah..AURA..u definitely have a super computer there !!
my estimate is...it worth more than 12k
My rig suddenly looks like a peanut in front of urs >.<

This post has been edited by terryble: Feb 9 2009, 02:32 AM

I think no...
u have to connect the sound out from your pc pretty easily i guess...
for ps3 i really hv no idea...
but i think i also shudnt be hard to transfer the sound out from other devices..from ur Hi Fi perhaps?

Nice reading from this thread...
a lot of pro guys here...

anyway...i cant find any information regarding samsung's 2333sw...
wat type of panel is that...any 1 knows?

and recently i found that....2333sw's dynamic contrast ratio is 20000:1 not 15000:1...it was printed on the monitor itself...not sure if this is a revise from samsung..

for your info also....currently viewnet@low yat is selling this at RM679
very attractive price for a FULL HD monitor...

if im not wrong it was RM549 at viewnet@low yat...
so far i found that the prices of almost anything sold in viewnet is the cheapest in KL...
i dun think it was opened in penang...
jus for your reference...

Attached below is the price list for 3rd week of Jan...they haven't update their price list in LYN yet...

just bought 2333sw yesterday..was totally stunned by the colour...
it is a SUPERB screen..DEFINITELY worth the money as compare to DELL 2409s...

but 1 thing damn scary..
its damn damn hard to fix the stand to the monitor..
the rubber is just not rubber..it is a piece of VERY STURDY plastic!!!
imagine u have to force 2 piece of sturdy plastic together..
i used all the strength i hv with my body weight to force it in..it took me 20mins of EXERCISING until it finally got in..

anyway....again...2333sw at RM670++ is an ultra worth buy!!
yea the price drop fast...but the quality doesnt...
no dead pixel...ultra nice colour..
and definitely HUGE screen!!!!

Too bad samsung is not paying me for advertising for them..
anyway..another satisfied customer(taken out the horrible stand design)

Well is this samsung 2333sw a TN panel...??
im not sure bout this..as it definitely have good viewing angle...



This post has been edited by terryble: Feb 11 2009, 12:07 AM

by request of a user "axbx"
attached below is print screen of gradient banding..
hope it looks good for u...
for your info....this print screen was generated under "Dynamic Contrast" setting

This post has been edited by terryble: Feb 11 2009, 11:48 AM


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ok...the stand is actually an oval shape little ball...look at the picture attached..
u have to press REALLY hard...to get it in ur monitor..
from the 2nd picture.....it shows the guy just using bare hands to force it in...
but...i would think that is almost impossible...
i used my body weight(70+ kg >.<) + strength of my hand muscle fighting with it for 20 mins in order to push it in..
also note that....at 1st i tried it on my bed...thinking to avoid damaging the monitor..
but it is impossible >.< the bed jus absorbed the force...

the thing is....it is specifically mention that u have to tilt it by an angle of 10 to 5 degree so that it could went in..
dun force it in at a straight 90 degrees...(refer to the picture attached)

Either way...after fixing the stand..
im glad it still functions and functions well
again...im very satisfy with this purchase...

Hope this help some of u

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Added on February 11, 2009, 12:08 pmehhh ya...the picture i posted obviously got some layers there...
but it wasnt there when looking to the original picture...
i tried saved as bitmap file..but..the picture is 5mb+

This post has been edited by terryble: Feb 11 2009, 12:08 PM


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Ehh how to save it lidat?
coz im using windows paint to do the job..the picvure some how get distorted..
i din notice any layers in the 5mb bitmap file anyway..

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Added on February 11, 2009, 2:16 pmit is not hard to clean...
they come with a piece of cloth...in case u wanna wipe the finger print on screen and on the piano black frame
and also the design is much better dust resistant than my old samsung 931BW

This post has been edited by terryble: Feb 11 2009, 02:18 PM

Ehh y suddenly s2409 so cheap??
i checked on their website yesterday and its selling at rm999?

anyway...i've seen both lcd my my frens company...
but again...i can say that the colour for samsung is still sharper...
perhaps due to the the dynamic contrast thingy...

HDMI or not??if u dun plan to connect ur ps3 and xbox360....that is never an issue...
in fact..u can convert hdmi to dvi...if u really wan to and it will not result in decreased quality..
check back this discussion on page 96~99...

This post has been edited by terryble: Feb 11 2009, 03:09 PM