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 Dec 7 2008, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(nelienuxe_sara @ Dec 7 2008, 03:34 PM) the monitor will resize mah S2233SW native reso is 1920 x 1080, AFAIK, this LCD combining with the 3 fullHD 22" model from BenQ, there are only 4 fullHD at 22" available today in the market 1680x1050 native reso rite?   |
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Jan 9 2009, 08:17 AM
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Hey since the current fever right now is the 1080p of 22" screens, I think we should have a list of all the models and possible price
 Here are what I had stumbled upon so far in Malaysia market  Acer H213H - RM750 Asus VH222H - RM750 BenQ T2200HD - RM550 E2200HD - RM600 Samsung 2233SW - RM560 Viewsonic VX2233WM - RM550 It used to be all about BenQ 3 months ago  Now we ahve so many models to choose from, but I'm proud of my T2200HD  |
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Jan 9 2009, 09:08 AM
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 9 2009, 08:50 AM) You might wanna include S2409W in your choices, RM750 24" is a very good price IMO. Nah while the price I admit is really tempting, but I just want to compile a list of 22" only Of course, if anyone ask, S2409W will be put in the recommendation list |
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Jan 9 2009, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(jason111785 @ Jan 9 2009, 10:58 AM) does 2433BW support full hd 1080p via the DVI port ? (bluray playback via bdrom) and also if i want to use the LCD for PS3 do i need extra decoder or just the DVI-HDMI covertor ? Will it affect the quality ? Nope no need anything beside the adapter, it will not affect the display quality |
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Jan 9 2009, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE(jason111785 @ Jan 9 2009, 01:22 PM) as far as i know, "2433BW support 16:10 and Image Size lets you properly view either 5:4 or 4:3 content on the widescreen without distortion" does that mean has pixel mapping ? Maybe there's a need to go to the shop and see for yourself for 16:9 display, AFAIK most 16:10 monitors are created with the better feature of 'backward compatibility' to properly display the old 4:3, crrect me if I'm wrong  Not sure which scenario will occur on the 2433BW, either black bars or stretched image  Just get a 16:9 and solve all the hassle  |
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Jan 9 2009, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE(stacko @ Jan 9 2009, 09:02 PM) Between Samsung 2233SW and Viewsonic VX2233wm, both supporting Full HD, which one is more reliable, and better picture quality? 2233SW got 15k:1 contrast ratio, while VX2233WM got 18k:1, so you get the drift, although human eyes cannot specifically detect these things... so... there's not much difference |
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Jan 11 2009, 09:03 AM
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Newer games are designed for 16:9 viewing compatibility, so there will be no regret when buying a 16:9 monitor, PLUS all movies are in 16:9 viewing ratio
Of course, I'm a proud owner of 16:9 monitor that's why I'm recommending this |
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Jan 11 2009, 05:55 PM
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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Jan 11 2009, 03:28 PM) @adie82I don't know what you read that caused you to think that there's distortion running 16:9 shows on 16:10. Have you ever used a 16:10 monitor before? Check your facts Dont' know about him, but 16:10 without 1:1 pixel mapping will surely display stretched image while displaying 16:9 stuffs. I used to watch movies (16:9) on my friend's G2400WD, there was no distrotion due to the pixel mapping.So in the end it really depends on the individual, if one can withstand black abars, get a 16:10 with 1:1 pixel mapping or 16:9 monitor, solves problem |
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Jan 11 2009, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Jan 11 2009, 06:04 PM) what's 1:1 pixel mapping btw..? Properly view the signal received, if a 16:10 monitor tries to display a 16:9 encoded video, with pixel mapping there will be black bars (unused area) at the top and bottom of the movie. Without 1:1 pixel mapping, the image will be stretched up to fill the before unused space, making the image looks distorted. just imagine a proper round ball in 16:9 video, without 1:1 PM on the 16:10 monitor, the ball will look oblong or oval, not round.google up for detailed examples This post has been edited by :3mushy:3: Jan 11 2009, 06:32 PM |
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Jan 11 2009, 08:12 PM
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QUOTE(refugeez86 @ Jan 11 2009, 07:57 PM) why i feel kinda wierd with my wallpaper after using widescreen? I'm using full HD on XP, so it indeed support XP. What monitor are you using? Dos it look blurry? Mind you some monitor works well only with its native display (no upscaling or downscaling)before diz i use vista and its look good wif widescreen.. now downgrade using xp then my wallpaper looks wierd.. need to choose centre for wallpaper then its look good.. xp not good using lcd widescreen meh? my resolution i use now is 1440x900.. |
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Jan 11 2009, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Jan 11 2009, 08:21 PM) i need some advise here bros, Without a doubt get the S2409W, it's a true Full HD monitor between Dell E248WFP and S2409W, which is a better choice in term of watching movies and probably a lil gaming? kinda dont understand most of the term of the spec here is the direct comparison of spec: http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/c...dhs1&l=en&s=dhs sorry if this question is super noob as i know nothing about monitors And it has HDMi input as well If you want to pick up one, search in the Garage Sales section, many people are selling for as low as RM750 with full 3 years warranty |
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Jan 11 2009, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Jan 11 2009, 08:43 PM) besides its feature, in term of performance, which would be more suitable especially during gaming? Both are TN panels, can't expect much Just check the link you provided, they do nto differ, much  QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ Jan 11 2009, 08:44 PM) I am going for T240 Penang RM1300 KL RM1550 what the heck with KL shop? Which shop you checked? Viewnet sells for RM1290 only |
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Jan 11 2009, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE(refugeez86 @ Jan 11 2009, 09:35 PM) what lcd u use? is it nice using full HD?huhu.. not blurry but the wallpaper stretch to fit into lcd screen.. Are you sure the wallpaper resolution is 1440 x 900? If not for sure there will be stretching. And also try updating the monitor driver file im using samsung syncmaster 931BW.. QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Jan 11 2009, 09:43 PM) with the price rm750 it is really worth it compare to E248WFP... Get the S2409W, no regrets for sure might get one after this week coz currently having exam If you buy from outside, it will be like 1k+, so better buy from here (just search in the Garage Sales) |
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Jan 12 2009, 07:19 AM
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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Jan 12 2009, 12:15 AM) I don't understand what are you talking about. 16:10 Monitors with 1:1 pixel mapping will display without distortion, 16:9 formatted movies and the ones without 1:1 pixel mapping will present distortion? Then it's obvious, too, that you've never used one, well, save that BenQ with the 1:1 pixel mapping. You've just answered your question on my statement. We are talking in the context of full screen display, dude Consoles aside, either I need new glasses, which I don't, or that 16:9 movies on 16:10 has absolutely no distortion whatsoever given the presence of black bars. What I trying to say is, on 16:10 monitors, if you stretch the show to the brim, then there will be distortion. If you set your media player to show black bars, then distortion will not occur. Using Media PLayer Classic, one could easily set any 16:9 show on a 16:10 to set to 'touch from inside' and the player will automatically set the show to display at its maximum size. In 16:9 case, the show will be upsized until the sides reach the end of the monitor and the vertical size will increase. But the player will ensure that the aspect ratio will be maintained. Comparing 22", 16:10 vs 16:9 for a 16:9 show, both sizes are exactly the same. 22" 16:9's actual size is 21.6", and when a 16:9 show on a 16:10 monitor is maximized, the diagonal width is exactly the same as a 16:9 22" monitor. I may have not owned a 16:10 before, but that doesn't mean I'm not familiar with it Just for a quick comparison; This is full HD  This is 16:10, the first being with 1:1 pixel mapping, the later with stretched image on full screen, look at both of the circles, the monitor means serious business.   On why many people say the true widescreen is the 16:9 is because of perception, while in fact, they do share the same width, but they do not share the same height, thus the aspect ratio differs. This what differs 16:9 from 16:10. In fact, I believe the term widescreen was introduced to differenciate 16:10 (originally) from 4:3, then came the 16:9 monitor, which seems to be wider (but in fact same width with 16:10) There will be certainly stretching or black bars when viewing fullscreen 16:9 on 16:10, if not, what is the fuss all about from many people worldwide? cheers This post has been edited by :3mushy:3: Jan 12 2009, 08:15 AM |
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Jan 12 2009, 10:42 AM
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No, either one, it depends whether the 16:10 monitor has 1:1 pixel mapping or not. (if it has, means black bars, which in my opinion is better than a stretched display)
Just check with the salesperson when you are buying one, or you can google up about a particular model |
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Jan 12 2009, 11:17 AM
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Exactly, but my personal advice is to get with 1:1PM. It's your money you are paying with, you should get the best bet you can, why go for an older technology?
Just like my images comparison above, the distortion is visible mostly to a round object on the screen, you might not notice it in the first place but some people who are 'picky' like myself will notice every speck of difference >__< 16:10 was made practically for PC gaming, but most new games come with 16:9 AR, plus you can play 3rd gen console perfectly as well |
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Jan 12 2009, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Jan 12 2009, 07:05 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Stop confusing people since you've never used a 16:10 monitor w/o 1:1 pixel mapping. You are showing pics of what happens when a 16:9 show is fully stretched on a 16:10 monitor. At any rate, consoles aside, watching 16:9 formatted media files, through the computer will not present any distortion whatsoever, provided that you can set your media player program to show 2 black bars, on the top and the bottom. Whether the monitor has 1:1 pixel mapping or not is immaterial. The issue can be solve by a software solution, which is free. Like I said earlier, the software in question is Media Player Classic, or any other program that can do the same. MPC can stretch your 16:9 formatted show to the maximum horizontal width of the monitor and keeping the aspect ratio intact. 1:1 pixel mapping should the concern of console users, since the scaler inside the monitor plays an important role. If you are playing a 16:9 show on a 16:10 monitor, it will present no distortion whatsoever, provided that it shows black bars. Whether or not it is an old technology is immaterial as well. ). What I did was delivering the true information about 1:1 pixel mapping and what the monitor without one, will response natively |
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Jan 13 2009, 12:33 AM
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Haha I agree that the prices are really tempting
And because of that, I think those who are really on pretty tight budget will opt for 19" models, since 22" widescreen is available for as low as RM540 The time when 24" prices will fall really low will come I asume, we can see third party is selling S2409W for RM750 already, I guess it will not be long before other retailers will follow it  |
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Jan 13 2009, 09:08 PM
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QUOTE(wotiyo @ Jan 13 2009, 07:55 PM) i wan suggestion...thx aTI 4850 works like a charm and can definitely support 24" even on high setting  , with RM500 you can get one of Palit or Colorful brand bro |
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Jan 13 2009, 11:41 PM
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PS3 has its own display setting for normal TV or widescreen, so if you plug in your box TV it will not use widescreen mode, but rather PAL or NTSC mode which is 4:3.
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