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post Feb 11 2009, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(terryble @ Feb 11 2009, 11:47 AM)
by request of a user "axbx"
attached below is print screen of gradient banding..
hope it looks good for u...
for your info....this print screen was generated under "Dynamic Contrast" setting
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Thx lot man... btw, this JPEG is lower quality rite? I don't think for 2333sw, the gradient's layers are that obvious?
At ur screen, it's not like the JPEG, am I right? blink.gif

Hopefully not, fingers crossed sweat.gif


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post Feb 11 2009, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(terryble @ Feb 11 2009, 12:04 PM)
ehhh ya...the picture i posted obviously got some layers there...
but it wasnt there when looking to the original picture...
i tried saved as bitmap file..but..the picture is 5mb+ sleep.gif
aite, thx lot man... that sure a relief thumbup.gif

2333sw, I'm coming..!!!

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post Feb 11 2009, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(Zhou @ Feb 11 2009, 01:39 PM)
user posted image

How about tis? Dell S2409W
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THat's S2409W? shocking.gif if it is, i'll be damned...hahahaha...

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post Feb 11 2009, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(terryble @ Feb 11 2009, 02:14 PM)
Ehh how to save it lidat?
coz im using windows paint to do the job..the picvure some how get distorted..
i din notice any layers in the 5mb bitmap file anyway..
If you're using Paint, then the quality will 'habis' all the way...

usually i use paste at Photoshop and save as high-quality jpeg...

looks like S2409W & 2333sw gonna have a close fight... rclxub.gif

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post Feb 11 2009, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(ravewar @ Feb 11 2009, 02:31 PM)
you'll never regret with either one of them...it's just 24" vs 23", "rm650 vs rm675", "HDMI vs no HDMI"...... biggrin.gif  whistling.gif (kasi racun sikit)
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QUOTE(radiounit @ Feb 11 2009, 02:38 PM)
but 2333sw has a better design than s2409, which is another point that could come into consideration.
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ow man... that's lots of racun... doh.gif

I have to really have a close look at both now... hmm.gif
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post Feb 11 2009, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(terryble @ Feb 11 2009, 03:08 PM)
Ehh y suddenly s2409 so cheap??
i checked on their website yesterday and its selling at rm999?

anyway...i've seen both lcd my my frens company...
but again...i can say that the colour for samsung is still sharper...
perhaps due to the the dynamic contrast thingy...

HDMI or not??if u dun plan to connect ur ps3 and xbox360....that is never an issue...
in fact..u can convert hdmi to dvi...if u really wan to and it will not result in decreased quality..
check back this discussion on page 96~99...
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Yep, saw that pages... but i think for works purpose, 2333sw will still on top then... and i just noticed few days ago the 16:9 and 16:10 aspect ratio... so, i still prefer to look and work at 16:10.
plus, i don't play console games whistling.gif (don't laugh at me, yeah, i don't play games,hieheheh...) only movies can make me sit whole day in front of my monitor.


QUOTE(radiounit @ Feb 11 2009, 03:27 PM)
another thing to consider... more of an advise. prior to my purchase, i always thought the bigger the better, and the s2409w was my top choice. but after buying the 2333sw and have it on my table, it was really huge, much bigger than expected. predict a placement of the lcd on ur table as sitting too close to the lcd defeat the purpose of having a huge monitor and having ur eyes darting around when watching movies on close up.

im currently sitting 2 feet between the monitor, and it's still huge.

Some pics I took recently...
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hahaha... i guess u could say that... bigger isn't always better... biggrin.gif

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post Feb 11 2009, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(mememe12 @ Feb 11 2009, 04:03 PM)
axbx... i m very noob in monitor thing.. but then if watching movie.. then 2333 is better compared to 2409? but actually both of this also TN panel right?

my main purpose to buy a monitor is for designing, photo editing(ppl recommend at least VA) and of coz.. wanna watch movie also.. if watch movie.. TN or VA will affect anything?
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hahaha, i'm a noob myself also blush.gif Just learned few things from these nice people here... rclxms.gif

IMHO, for watching movie, as bro kianwee said, these 2 monitors won't have that much difference, and i suppose so, since movie (especially dvd or dvd-rip one) doesn't require much of color accuracy, but need good response time.

Yeah, both are TN panel..

From what I read from websites (you can refer to 1st page where kianwee gives several websites for LCD knowledge), every type of LCD has (+) and (-); e.g.

- TN panel is good for games and movies, since nowadays a lot of TN panel has 5 or even 2ms response times, so you won't see much ghosting.
But others panel, will has lesser response times (i think most of them around 6 or 8ms), so you lost there.

- TN panel sucks at colors accuracy, and not to mention the viewing angle, you move your head up, down, the color and brightness will change (i think this is common knowledge)
But others panel, have good and accurate colors information, you move right left, up down, it won't change much (very little in fact, you can look at the post at page 90 something, IPS panel, posted by kianwee)

So, in conclusion, depends on you which LCD you want to buy. I personally will get 2333sw soon, because of those i stated already, and money of course tongue.gif

You want to do design and movie, maybe can take 2333sw as well laugh.gif

Added on February 11, 2009, 4:46 pm
QUOTE(insane.gamer @ Feb 11 2009, 03:52 PM)
i chose the 2333sw for design also whistling.gif

gonna buy a lcd mount this weekend
Hey, u can play PS3 on it?? nice.!! using converter? rclxms.gif

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post Feb 11 2009, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(mememe12 @ Feb 11 2009, 04:59 PM)
then i guess our laptop LCD also TN right??

another thing about the diff between 2333 n 2409 is also the HDMI right? i m not playing xbox or ps3.. but then i m thinking of mayb in the soon future, i will buy hdmi cable.. bcoz nowadays camera support hdmi..

and even movie also right? hmm.gif

Added on February 11, 2009, 5:14 pmswt.. axbx.. u post same question in testFreaks tongue.gif
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Laptop? um, I suppose so. hmm.gif

I was thinking about HDMI factor also, but then I decided I don't need it... I don't play console game, definitely no Blue-Ray also (someday, someday rolleyes.gif )

If really up2u... But if it's me, watching movies, go kau kau, if I'm able to buy Blue-Ray, I won't go for this LCD la tongue.gif won't get the full experience...

testFreaks?

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QUOTE(insane.gamer @ Feb 11 2009, 05:16 PM)
yeah playing ps3 on it ... no converter ... just hdmi to dvi cable that i bought for 30 bucks brows.gif
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ic, rclxms.gif enjoy the baby then...hehehe..

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post Feb 11 2009, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(mememe12 @ Feb 11 2009, 05:37 PM)
then the dell 2409 can support HDMI.. but then just the response rate slower right? actually response rate slower means that when an object moved away.. then the shadow will lag at the previous area for a while is it?

if i dont hv blue ray disc/ player.. but i download full HD movie to see.. will tat affect the result if i view in 2333 and 2409?

sorry yea.. ask so many questions.. lol  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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I don't think so ya (correct me if i'm wrong fellas), Dell S2409W is a TN panel, with 5ms.. as mentioned:
TN Panel = fast ms, color so so...

Download, not sure man, sorry... Maybe others know?
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post Feb 12 2009, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(xk2 @ Feb 12 2009, 01:24 AM)
ya bro ,it is 16:9
is it my eyes or S2409w looks wider than 2333sw? both are 16:9 also rite?
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post Feb 12 2009, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(rsangel @ Feb 12 2009, 12:07 PM)
of coz.... S2409w look wider, coz is a 24" haha

Yup... both are 16:9
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o yeah....stupid doh.gif 1" bigger...
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post Feb 13 2009, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Feb 12 2009, 11:08 PM)
anyone 2233sw got reddish problem? Damn, just got mine and got reddish problem. THe black color is not black, is reddish one, then got 1 line at the right side of the monitor.
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QUOTE(Zinxdesign @ Feb 13 2009, 08:37 PM)
hoho..ur problem seem same wif me.. got 1line at the right and the blacklight bleeding so bad.. lucky i bought 2unit..can compare each other.. the problem unit S/N is CM22HMBQCxxxxx..
then going back to shop and change to other unit with S/N CM22HMCQCxxxxx...  smile.gif  smile.gif
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Wow.. that's 2 already? Where did u guys buy it? Same place?

Did u test it on-spot? I'm planning to buy one sweat.gif

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post Feb 14 2009, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(Zinxdesign @ Feb 14 2009, 05:39 PM)
Nop.. 1st day n 2nd day i didnt seem any problem, you know la..my 1st LCD, really happy that time..
then i playing around with dual monitor setting.. after restart few times, and notice got line at the 1st monitor.. so i do check up and compare both unit..
the faulty unit seem not really sharp.. even i do an adjustment at the monitor, and the color seem more bright, the monitor look a little bit dull...
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Not that clear bro.... but have u return the monitor? and change to new one?
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post Feb 14 2009, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(Zinxdesign @ Feb 14 2009, 06:09 PM)
yea i already change to new unit, 7days 1 to 1 warranty..
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now the both unit show same color output.. rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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ic... gud for you then thumbup.gif
where did u buy the monitor? gotta be careful there, hahaha...

i'm using the same Altec speaker as yours..!!! rclxms.gif mine one is 5.1...
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post Feb 17 2009, 01:59 PM

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wow....it's TRUE..!!! RM699...!!! Until 27 February only..!!

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post Feb 17 2009, 02:11 PM

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There's a discount code for Dell Monitor E2209W - RM749
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Added on February 17, 2009, 2:14 pm
QUOTE(chanws8 @ Feb 17 2009, 02:07 PM)
Ya..Many forumers are selling Dell 2409W in garage sales...
Very tempting,24inch only RM699...Still remember my HP w2228h costs me RM1050... cry.gif
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Yeah, saw that, wasn't very sure about the price. Think it's Dell's tactic all along laugh.gif

Computers are like that, today buy new one, tomorrow comes out cheaper and newer... rolleyes.gif

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post Feb 18 2009, 04:45 PM

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may i know what's the difference and advantage of LED LCD and normal LCD?

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post Feb 18 2009, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(ahbeng2 @ Feb 18 2009, 04:55 PM)
save power & thinner body  rclxms.gif
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laugh.gif haahahhaa..that's all?? come on....
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QUOTE(ravewar @ Feb 18 2009, 05:05 PM)
yup...

LED lcds are better in the aspect of:
1) more energy efficient
2) display blacks blacker, brights brighter....better contrasts and extreme minimal bleeding
3) better colour reproduction
4) improved grey detailings
5) others that i may have missed out...
can check Wiki: LCD backlightings
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Technology...catch her if you can... sweat.gif today you buy the latest tech, 2morrow they come out with a better one... vmad.gif
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post Feb 19 2009, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(radiounit @ Feb 19 2009, 05:54 PM)
go for dell s2409w if u want bigger screen and hdmi support. go for samsung 2333sw if u want a better designed lcd monitor. i personally would 100% recommend the s2409w if it wasn't for the plain design. both equals in term of performance, i think, but whichever u choose, there won't be any regrets.
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I wonder why Dell S2409W doesn't put the Dynamic Contrast there (I know the DC issue, just wondering blush.gif )

I personally saw 2333sw, and the picture is not disappointing, S2409W wise, haven't see it... That's why still thinking about these 2 now...
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