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post Apr 17 2009, 03:11 PM

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Just asking, how much of a speed bump can I get if I swap my EP35-DS3 with a EP45-UD3P? Right now using a X3350 C1 ad CM Hyper212 for cooling, not in an a/c room.
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post Apr 17 2009, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Apr 17 2009, 04:44 PM)
i would say not much difference. iinm the difference between P35 and P45 is the south bridge and more tweaking option for OCer. if you dont really OC, then i think you should stick with P35 smile.gif
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Sorry, should have reworded my post. Actually what I meant was how far can I overclock my CPU on a EP45-UD3P given that I'm not using the computer in an air conditioned room, and without breaking into unsafe voltages for 45nm CPUs, as I'm aware that mobo swapping, like low latency RAM gives very negligible bonuses.

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post Apr 17 2009, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Apr 17 2009, 05:06 PM)
i would say P45 board are much better in OCing. mainly due to extra feature in bios. all those extra tweaking option makes you achieve higher clocks and fsb. so yes nod.gif you might be able to OC even much higher but still need to depends on your proc batch. if you hit your proc wall, then no matter how good this board is still it wont let you pass that wall smile.gif
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OK, thanks. BTW, regarding proc batches, What's the minimum FSB wall for my proc anyway? If it's minimum is 450FSB I'd consider an upgrade worth it.
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post Apr 17 2009, 10:14 PM

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Mine's L803. Found a pair each of Q9450 and X3350 procs on HardOCP's Core 2 Database for that L803 at 3.0-3.8 gigs on asus rampage formula, I guess that means it's a decent batch?

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post Apr 24 2009, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Apr 23 2009, 11:18 PM)
one of the main problem of 4*1GB is that, not all of the stick has the capability to OC. its something like, if 1 of your RAM running at 800mhz and another 1 running at 1066mhz on default, your system will detect both as 800mhz. same applies on OCing your system with 4 stick of RAM. there are alot more reason why 4 stick is not advisable but i kinda forgotten why. read it once in some thread smile.gif
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More heat? More power? I dunno, but my 4*1GB crucial D9H sticks could do 1000mhz easily.
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post Apr 24 2009, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Apr 24 2009, 12:44 AM)
then your RAM must have gem chip brows.gif

anyway did you meant 10 ani RAMs?
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I thought 10 ani uses the better D9G not D9H? Anyway I never tried going past 1000MHz, it was too hot.

Anyway the D9H is the single side 1gig ones that use less voltage but don't OC as high. I noticed Anandtech and Toms Hardware could get the 2gig variants to 1200MHz anyway though.

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post Apr 27 2009, 10:37 PM

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I just realized I don't have the cash to buy the UD3P sad.gif Anyone wants a EP35-DS3 and some Kingston ram?
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post Apr 28 2009, 09:36 AM

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Hmm, but how far does the UD3L go in overclocking a quad?
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post Apr 28 2009, 03:32 PM

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Also, what's with the Dolby sound thing that the UD3P has that other UD3 series do not have?
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post May 7 2009, 03:38 PM

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3.6gig already touched 70C on priming shocking.gif then again I have high ambient temps due to global warming and no a/c. Gonna try reduce some voltages and see how it goes.

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post May 9 2009, 10:29 AM

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Yeah noticed board BIOS and CPU-Z timings have a pretty big difference.
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post May 10 2009, 07:12 PM

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Does anyone know what's the max 24/7 safe VTT for 45nm CPUs? Can't seem to find it, unlike vcore 1.3625V and cpu termination ~1.38-1.4V.

Also, given an ambient temperature of 34C, should I get a better cooler or get an a/c set up? Current cooler is a CM Hyper212, idle/load at 48/60 assuming tjmax=95 at 400 FSB.

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post May 11 2009, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(hengmy @ May 11 2009, 12:06 PM)
u should keep the vtt below 1.35v for 24/7 usage. it been said that more than that will kill the 45nm processor.
and the tjmax for 45nm was 100.
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My bad, I actually meant PLL not VTT.

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post May 17 2009, 05:06 PM

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So finally I have the time to play with my board. First attempt running @ 3.6 gig. Using a CM Hyper 212 for cooling, inside an Antec 900 case. Ambient temp is a crazy 34C blink.gif

Anyway, what software can get the MCH or northbridge temps? The NB heatsink seems a little too hot for my liking.

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post Jul 1 2009, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Jun 4 2009, 10:28 PM)
CCF cant fit UD3P,UD3R unfortunately
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It can, if you orient it upwards. I haven't tried yet but it looks like you can also fit it vertically by removing the NB heatsink first and installing the NB heatsink again after mounting the CCF.

BTW, how effective is the NB heatsink at cooling? It gets almost as hot as my Tracers when running my CPU higher than 3.6GHz.

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post Jul 3 2009, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(uzer85 @ Jul 3 2009, 09:20 AM)
scary liao..... sweat.gif
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How difficult can it be? The NB has two screws (just use a screwdriver), the nearby heatsink which it's attached to has three clips. Certainly less scary than installing the CCF on any Intel motherboard.

QUOTE(Kevin @ Jul 3 2009, 10:36 AM)
UD3P user here. Do you guys have any problems running dual channel? Been using Kingston HyperX and Team Xtreem  4x1 GB RAM but can't seem to run dual channel. Any help greatly appreciated. smile.gif
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I'm using 4*1GB DDR2-800 D9H Tracers at as high as DDR2-1066 without any memory issues.
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post Jul 3 2009, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(farscope @ Jul 3 2009, 01:15 PM)
ya i admit.. tat's y i rather choose Xiggy RS over CCF for easy installation and the performance is more or less the same.. now hunting for cheap Xiggy RS.. anyone has one and wanna sell it? laugh.gif
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CCF is designed for AMD procs so it's a nobrainer for Phenom 2. Most of the issues is because of the LGA775 and LGA1336 backplate, it's having a silly large circle shape that makes it hard to fit on cramped mobos and hard to clip on as well.
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post Jul 7 2009, 04:54 PM

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There's a memory related submenu that has the options 800MHZ, 1066MHz, 1200(OC) or something like that. Try setting it to 1066.

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post Jul 8 2009, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Jul 7 2009, 09:39 PM)
ccf cant really fit if u hav ud3p or ud3r,some mods or extra steps need to be done
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If your case can exhaust air through the top, then you can put the ccf blowing upwards. No problems with fixing it that way.
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post Aug 13 2009, 02:50 PM

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Just got a tube of TX3 from lehteck and now trying to shoot for 4GHz. Which BIOS version overclocks quads best?

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