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post Jul 17 2009, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(shenshenshen @ Jul 17 2009, 09:36 PM)
i see that the logitech z-2300 consumes 200watts and 120 watts for woofer alone......

comapre it to the edifer s530 ...which one is better? the higher the rms the louder the sound right?

is s530 THX certified?
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Nope they're not. The THX means nothing fren, you wan THX, go to sticker shop and ask them to carve one for ya and stick on top of ur speakers, that's THX certified, but only by urself smile.gif
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post Jul 17 2009, 10:54 PM

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okay , so s530 is not THX certified but from the specs alone......from price , to design , sound quality ( bass as well ) ...i think the z2300 has the upper hand.....anybody who think otherwise? or maybe any forumers who has tried 2 of this speakers can make a comment here....cos i am stuck between z2300 and edifier s330 ( altec mx5021 is out of list cos my fren has it....dun wan to be the same )
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QUOTE(shenshenshen @ Jul 17 2009, 11:54 PM)
okay , so s530 is not THX certified but from the specs alone......from price , to design , sound quality ( bass as well ) ...i think the z2300 has the upper hand.....anybody who think otherwise? or maybe any forumers who has tried 2 of this speakers can make a comment here....cos i am stuck between z2300 and edifier s330 ( altec mx5021 is out of list cos my fren has it....dun wan to be the same )
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For me i won't go Z-2300 due to lacking sound clarity, too much bass produce humming bass which drop the overall soundstage. U should notice the Z-2300 sound distorted or cracked when u switch the volume almost 50% (i mean loud not very loud). I know 530D bass punchy as Z-2300, but slight tweak EQ & pair with a good sound card can enchance its Bass Quality.


Added on July 18, 2009, 12:28 amTHX is only a Certification, which make it more attractive only. btw u wanna hire a THX profressionals to build a THX certified mini theatre room in ur house? tongue.gif

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A THX Professional with Home Theater 2 certification has advanced knowledge on room acoustics and design, wall treatments and isolation, and AV hardware selection and placement. At this level, you will find a professional with the necessary skills to design and setup your complete home theater audio system.

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post Jul 18 2009, 02:39 AM

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i feel okay with the z2300 from price range till the design and all......s530 is rm200 more expensive than z2300 with the extra money enough to get a good sound card.....so cant compare apple to apple....and i am aiming for sound quality , and quality bass not necessarily need to be loud....

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post Jul 18 2009, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(shenshenshen @ Jul 18 2009, 02:39 AM)
i feel okay with the z2300 from price range till the design and all......s530 is rm200 more expensive than z2300 with the extra money enough to get a good sound card.....so cant compare apple to apple....and i am aiming for sound quality , and quality bass not necessarily need to be loud....
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honestly with RM200, you can hardly get a good soundcard, i think S530D is a better choice since it have a built-in DAC which i think is better than most of the onboard soundacrd, so you can save some money at the moment and invest a better soundcard later.
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post Jul 18 2009, 10:49 AM

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Hi bro, can the s530d plug to the dvd player with good sound performance?

I currently use s530d+xonar d2, the sound is rock, but when i connect it to my dvdplayer and tv, the sound is different,and not good...is it imposible for pc speker to connect to TV?
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QUOTE(mvck1030 @ Jul 18 2009, 10:49 AM)
Hi bro, can the s530d plug to the dvd player with good sound performance?

I currently use s530d+xonar d2, the sound is rock, but when i connect it to my dvdplayer and tv, the sound is different,and not good...is it imposible for pc speker to connect to TV?
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Because when you're connecting to DVD, you're no longer using the D2 ma, of coz it'll affect the SQ, if you connect to amp 1st then only to ur DVD player then I think you'll get better SQ.


Added on July 18, 2009, 10:54 am
QUOTE(xjian1985 @ Jul 18 2009, 09:55 AM)
honestly with RM200, you can hardly get a good soundcard, i think S530D is a better choice since it have a built-in DAC which i think is better than most of the onboard soundacrd, so you can save some money at the moment and invest a better soundcard later.
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Yea, with Rm200, you can only get the Asus Xonar U1 and creative X-FI 5.1 .

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post Jul 18 2009, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(mvck1030 @ Jul 18 2009, 10:49 AM)
Hi bro, can the s530d plug to the dvd player with good sound performance?

I currently use s530d+xonar d2, the sound is rock, but when i connect it to my dvdplayer and tv, the sound is different,and not good...is it imposible for pc speker to connect to TV?
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how do you connect it? you are use analog or digital from from xonar d2/dvd player to the s530d?
also what kind of dvd player are you using?

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post Jul 18 2009, 11:58 AM

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err...i using analog oni from dvd to s530d..dvd player i think is normal wan lo...y?

Beside, i heard tht plug the s530d to amp may harm the speaker or burn, is tht true?
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post Jul 18 2009, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(mvck1030 @ Jul 18 2009, 11:58 AM)
err...i using analog oni from dvd to s530d..dvd player i think is normal wan lo...y?

Beside, i heard tht plug the s530d to amp may harm the speaker or burn, is tht true?
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ok, so that's the reason that it doesn't sounds that good.
when using analog input to your s530d, xonar d2 can produce good SQ because it have a good DAC circuit on the soundcard, while normal dvd player doesn't have a fantastic DAC inside, so it can't produce the SQ as good as xonar d2. basically this shows the importance of DAC and that's why a good CDP selling at those price. it makes difference.

just wonder if your dvd player have digital output? if yes maybe you cant try it with s530d and probably will give you better result.
you just need a good input to your s530d, then you can get good output. thats' simple if using analog input.
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post Jul 18 2009, 12:56 PM

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sorry for being a noob....what Sound Card would you personally reccommend??? ..... and wats DAC ??
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post Jul 18 2009, 09:11 PM

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hey all im in sg, just went to SLS, so long never visit it.

i saw a R501 (i think its the last one) at 170$SGD, which about 400RM...
if i want to have it, i need to make the purchase as soon as possible.

as i told u, im an ex user of edifier x300, m3300, gmx and ifi.
ifi is too big. gmx is nice but only 2.1

i wanted a 5.1 in my small room (3x4metres) and i think R501 suits the price and size. what u all think? i wanna know how its bass response compared to like C3 which is at same price here...
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QUOTE(nismo91 @ Jul 18 2009, 09:11 PM)
hey all im in sg, just went to SLS, so long never visit it.

i saw a R501 (i think its the last one) at 170$SGD, which about 400RM...
if i want to have it, i need to make the purchase as soon as possible.

as i told u, im an ex user of edifier x300, m3300, gmx and ifi.
ifi is too big. gmx is nice but only 2.1

i wanted a 5.1 in my small room (3x4metres) and i think R501 suits the price and size. what u all think? i wanna know how its bass response compared to like C3 which is at same price here...
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I think it is a wise choice because your room size same as mine. WHile many people (including me, user of C3) complaining about C3 not enough punchy bass, i never heard people complain about R501 Mk2's bass. But i think the bass will not sound so tight, maybe it like M3300 but with extra loud because of down-firing.
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post Jul 18 2009, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(xjian1985 @ Jul 18 2009, 12:35 PM)
ok, so that's the reason that it doesn't sounds that good.
when using analog input to your s530d, xonar d2 can produce good SQ because it have a good DAC circuit on the soundcard, while normal dvd player doesn't have a fantastic DAC inside, so it can't produce the SQ as good as xonar d2. basically this shows the importance of DAC and that's why a good CDP selling at those price. it makes difference.

just wonder if your dvd player have digital output? if yes maybe you cant try it with s530d and probably will give you better result.
you just need a good input to your s530d, then you can get good output. thats' simple if using analog input.
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Yes bro, thank fro ur reply, i know what u said ...


Besides, I saw a post from chineseforum, said that logitech z5500 dun need sound card oso can produce best SQ, is it so?
How about S550D, can s550d perform the same SQ without sound card?
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post Jul 18 2009, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(mvck1030 @ Jul 18 2009, 09:22 PM)
Yes bro, thank fro ur reply, i know what u said ...
Besides, I saw a post from chineseforum, said that logitech z5500 dun need sound card oso can produce best SQ, is it so?
How about S550D, can s550d perform the same SQ without sound card?
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Comparing z5500 and S550D in term of listening songs, S550 has better clarity of sound.

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post Jul 18 2009, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Jul 18 2009, 09:18 PM)
I think it is a wise choice because your room size same as mine. WHile many people (including me, user of C3) complaining about C3 not enough punchy bass, i never heard people complain about R501 Mk2's bass. But i think the bass will not sound so tight, maybe it like M3300 but with extra loud because of down-firing.
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i like E3100 bass, i edifier range. it;s smooth and not so muddy. m3300 is towards muddy... if R501 bass is actually like M3300 but only louder.., i have to think again... i hope it sounds like C3 but louder... note that between S330, M3300 and C3 sub, i prefer C3 sub...

C3 sub is only lack of power, but not so muddy... thing is, R501 price attractive.. and my room soo small... i want to get rid of my ifi (which is in living room) and have smaller system so i can stay in my room... so i need to know about R501.. interesting speaker for my needs...
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Went to ALL IT to test edifiers in Ikano today...very friendly salesmen there...let me test nicely rclxms.gif

Tested M3300, M3300SF, C3, S330, S530

Well for the price, M3300 and M3300SF is really good clarity... but bass wise is very lacking, when bass heavy song the woofer gush out alot of air from the port and cause alot of "wind" sound from the port too.

C3, although cheaper than S330, i still think it sounds much better than S330. C3's treble extension is higher and bass is more punchy, but not loud. The best setting i found in that shop is 6/7 Sub - 4 Treble. Bass is punchy and clear, can hear every note clearly, but is sound quite dry, not much excitement. Not muddy at all with all the songs i throw at it. However at low volume the bass is almost non existent.

S330 on the other hand can provide more mid range detail, like the background crowd in the song Hotel California can be heard clearer than S330, but the woofer seems abit loose and can get boomy at times, often overdo the bass for the songs. Also i cant seem to find the right setting to give me the best balance.. The treble extension not as good as C3 too. I dont know, might be the placement of the speakers but thats what i heard to day

S530 dont need say much, best. Beat every speaker there hands down except its bigger brother S730. Even "THX" MX5021 loses to it

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post Jul 18 2009, 11:50 PM

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what u guys think bout R1900TIII???
seems, nobody mention bout this ya?!
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post Jul 19 2009, 03:10 AM

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QUOTE(andrew9292 @ Jul 18 2009, 11:47 PM)
Went to ALL IT to test edifiers in Ikano today...very friendly salesmen there...let me test nicely  rclxms.gif

Tested M3300, M3300SF, C3, S330, S530

Well for the price, M3300 and M3300SF is really good clarity... but bass wise is very lacking, when bass heavy song the woofer gush out alot of air from the port and cause alot of "wind" sound from the port too.

C3, although cheaper than S330, i still think it sounds much better than S330. C3's treble extension is higher and bass is more punchy, but not loud. The best setting i found in that shop is 6/7 Sub - 4 Treble. Bass is punchy and clear, can hear every note clearly, but is sound quite dry, not much excitement. Not muddy at all with all the songs i throw at it. However at low volume the bass is almost non existent.

S330 on the other hand can provide more mid range detail, like the background crowd in the song Hotel California can be heard clearer than S330, but the woofer seems abit loose and can get boomy at times, often overdo the bass for the songs. Also i cant seem to find the right setting to give me the best balance.. The treble extension not as good as C3 too. I dont know, might be the placement of the speakers but thats what i heard to day

S530 dont need say much, best. Beat every speaker there hands down except its bigger brother S730. Even "THX" MX5021 loses to it
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great review altho contradict with what i read in other reviews...maybe personal preference.....how bout s530 compare to logitech z2300.....s530 700++ right?.......
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post Jul 19 2009, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(andrew9292 @ Jul 18 2009, 11:47 PM)
Went to ALL IT to test edifiers in Ikano today...very friendly salesmen there...let me test nicely  rclxms.gif

Tested M3300, M3300SF, C3, S330, S530

Well for the price, M3300 and M3300SF is really good clarity... but bass wise is very lacking, when bass heavy song the woofer gush out alot of air from the port and cause alot of "wind" sound from the port too.

C3, although cheaper than S330, i still think it sounds much better than S330. C3's treble extension is higher and bass is more punchy, but not loud. The best setting i found in that shop is 6/7 Sub - 4 Treble. Bass is punchy and clear, can hear every note clearly, but is sound quite dry, not much excitement. Not muddy at all with all the songs i throw at it. However at low volume the bass is almost non existent.

S330 on the other hand can provide more mid range detail, like the background crowd in the song Hotel California can be heard clearer than S330, but the woofer seems abit loose and can get boomy at times, often overdo the bass for the songs. Also i cant seem to find the right setting to give me the best balance.. The treble extension not as good as C3 too. I dont know, might be the placement of the speakers but thats what i heard to day

S530 dont need say much, best. Beat every speaker there hands down except its bigger brother S730. Even "THX" MX5021 loses to it
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i agree with your reviews. since previously i've said that C3 bass is actually good. just lack of "power". but its definitely better than S330 sub alone.
for S330 sats, its clean and sharp, but C3 is warmer...

and regarding MX5021. too bad, the current stock is getting worse and worse. each time i audition (yesterday i did again, even the old one with curve) i feel like, the very first MX5021 in few years back, was it 2005? it was so good. now, not even worthy to carry THX mark.

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