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post Nov 21 2008, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(striderozy @ Nov 21 2008, 06:03 PM)
The other Zaku guy is who?
For sure, Lu Xun still hasnt appear in Red Cliff war.....
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he is zhang he 張郃 zaku III
according to the novel, Lu Xun appear in Chibi War smile.gif
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post Nov 21 2008, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(striderozy @ Nov 21 2008, 09:02 PM)
Novel here means Bandai's novel, right?
In history, Lu Xun shouldnt appear yet that time.....
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in 三國演義 sango novel he appear already...
but in real history i not sure wink.gif

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post Nov 21 2008, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(HoNeYdEwBoY @ Nov 21 2008, 09:20 PM)
that mean lu xun nvr exist in sango history ?
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he exist, but i not sure he take part in Chibi War anot...
still need to find out smile.gif

Zhou Cang never exist in real history...
he is fake one, only appear in novel sweat.gif

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post Nov 21 2008, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Nov 21 2008, 09:45 PM)
i believe lu xun made his appearance in the novel much much later


Added on November 21, 2008, 9:47 pmhttp://www.threekingdoms.com/

there we go. online novel in all its glory.
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check chapter 49 (line 85) & 50(line 23) tongue.gif

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post Nov 22 2008, 11:50 AM

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overall is okey thumbup.gif
time to learn to cover seam line
& practise more on using putty biggrin.gif
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post Nov 22 2008, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Nov 22 2008, 11:53 AM)
yalor, seeing those seamlines is starting to annoy meself too. mad.gif

so it is apply cement, press together and then sand away excess isit?
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ya, apply one time, then wait for 30 seconds...
then apply again, wait again... repeat several times
here is a tutorial
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post Nov 23 2008, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(striderozy @ Nov 22 2008, 05:01 PM)
Here is some brief description on War of red cliff....

http://xf.hb.vnet.cn/sanguo/lishi/ditu/009.html

But sorry guys, I just manage to find chinese version one.....

The problem is Huang Gai is considered one of the main character in red cliff war but Bandai still hasnt release yet....

Oh ya, lets vote for our next group build:

1. War of Red Cliff
2. War of Zhang Ban Bo (Zhao Yun saves Ah Dou)
3. The trios fight agains Lv Bu
4. Alliance against Dong Zhuo (But we dont have Yuan Shao, the leader and Dong Zhuo the badass)
5. Others, please specify....
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my choice ia either 1 or 3 cool2.gif
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post Nov 23 2008, 12:22 PM

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i will list down all the generals
according to what Bandai released

1. War of Red Cliff
diorama: river+land
generals: almost all, got 10++ generals
except Lv Bu & Emperor Liu Bei (to be release)
we need many ships also

but the diorama has limitation, like 50cmx50cmx50cm
if we put too many generals, it might crowded

2. War of Zhang Ban Bo (Zhao Yun saves Ah Dou)
diorama: two land divided by a bridge
generals: Liu Bei, Zhang Fei, Zhao Yun, Kong Ming, Ah Dou (use other series?)
Cao Cao, Sima Yi, Xiahou Yuan, Xiahou Dun, Zhang Liao


3. The trios fight agains Lv Bu
diorama: in front of 虎牢關 tiger gate
generals: Liu Bei, Guan Yi, Zhang Fei vs Lv Bu+ red hare, Zhang Liao

4. Alliance against Dong Zhuo
diorama: in front of 虎牢關 tiger gate
almost all, but too many badass are not in production,
like Yuan Shao, Dong Zhuo, Hua Xiong etc...

ps: pawns are included in all above diorama

from reference of zerog GB, 11 members took part to build 8 models & diorama...
we also have 11 so far, base on our experience & ability,
i think 3 is more suitable

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post Nov 23 2008, 03:00 PM

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some descriptions & sketches,
pls give ur comment notworthy.gif

1. War of Red Cliff
Cao Cao & Sima Yi give order on the shore, Xiahou brothers (on boat) attacking;
Lv Meng & Gan Ning (on boat) defending, Sun Quan & Zhou Yu fire user posted image;
Kong Ming pray for the wind,
Liu Bei, Guan Yu, Zhang Fei & Zhao Yun should do what?
need pawns for Cao Cao' army & Sun Quan's army

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2. War of Zhang Ban Bo
Zhang Fei stands at middle of the bridge,
Zhao Yun return Ah Dou to Liu Bei (behind Zhang Fei);
Cao Cao's army is chasing (in front of Zhang Fei)
need pawns for Cao Cao's army & Liu Bei's army

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3. The trios fight agains Lv Bu
Liu Bei, Guan Yu & Zhang Fei surrounded Lv Bu & red hare;
Zhang Liao surrounded by pawns
need pawns for Liu Bei's army & Lv Bu's army

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ps: pawns place randomly


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post Nov 23 2008, 03:56 PM

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thanks notworthy.gif

1. zoidx_chung (Team leader)
2. madmoz
3. kukubeh
4. 8tvt
5. cryuz13
6. 2015315 (are the numbers correct? )
7. zefflodo
8. HoNeYdEwBoY
9. earlydevilex
10. striderozy
11. VHunter
12. Who else...?

those who stay at KL on the above list,
please make urself to auntie's gathering...
many to discuss....
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post Nov 24 2008, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(husnaiht @ Nov 23 2008, 06:53 PM)
wah u guys have a very interesting topic started there. wished i have the ability n am in west side to join the fun..but too noob coz just started gun pla-ing few months ago.

anyway, just wondering how did zoidx get all the details about each scene..
was it from real life 3 kingdom history or the sango comic by bandai?
if from sango comic by bandai where to get it apart from buying the sango sds coz i cant seem to find it online..=)

thx for response.
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i read both the history & the novel biggrin.gif
basically, history is not as interesting as novel,
many incidents in novel are fake..... sweat.gif
for example, Kong Ming never pray to borrow east wind
about sango comic included in each boxset, it is based on the novel, but got some difference

QUOTE(madmoz @ Nov 23 2008, 09:43 PM)
zoidx is quoting from the novel. I'm not too sure if the sango comics is true to its roots. The sango flyer at BAKUC had the earlier comics in English.


Added on November 23, 2008, 10:10 pmI dislike War of Red Cliff cause the whole thing is supposed to be in flames, and that 'red' effect susah nak buat. Hero (Huang Gai) also tak ada, and honestly this one's been done to its death.

Number 4, although i have always likes Dong Zhou (greedy, manipulative, HORNY bast*rd)  the characters tidak lengkap at all!

So that leaves imho Zhang Ban or the fight against Lu Bu. I prefer Lu Bu's fight but for one thing which i will mention later.

Why do i like Lu Bu's scene? Four of the five generals are easily recognisable - guan yu with his blue dragon, Zhang Fei and his serpent spear, liu bei and his gay twin swords and or course Lu Bu with his giant halberd. These were the kits that made me go "Wow!" six months ago and got me gunplaing again.

Additionally, the dio pans out nicely too. We have a backdrop - the tiger gate at the back, and this will make the dio look nice and compact. We might not have much space to work with (50x50 os big, but a dio that size imho will look empty, especially with SDs. I think the zeroG footie dio size is about right. We can also place pwns out back nod.gif on the gate itself! Siege engines we can adapt from warhammer, kukubeh will be familiar with these cause he uses citadel paints. We can group zhang liao vs pawns around the foot of this.


Added on November 23, 2008, 10:19 pmNow the problem part. There's eleven of us who have confirmed their participation. There are five generals.
I'd be honest, of us eleven now, i would say zoidx_chung, kukubeh, cryuz13 and 8tv8 are pretty much confirmed as the ones making the generals. So there's only one more general left to make, or two if we consider red hare as a seperate model.

And there's seven modellers left. I volunteer for 'small soldier' duty so that leaves six.

hmm.gif Perhaps we can make horses for the three brothers as well? I recall reading that duels back then were mostly on horseback. We might have to adjust the positioning a bit, or maybe liu bei horseless on the floor with lu bu about to skewer him laugh.gif and the two brothers charging in?

Assuming we go with 2 horses, that leaves 4 modellers left for soldier and dio duty which is imho perfect?
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thanks for ur suggestion notworthy.gif

QUOTE(kukubeh @ Nov 23 2008, 11:16 PM)
imo warhammer is a very good reference for doing dio. i have thier monthly magazine that can use for reference.
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that's good....
can bring it one auntie's gathering?

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post Nov 24 2008, 01:17 AM

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what i have in my mind now: rclxub.gif

1. Lv Bu
2. red hare
3. Liu Bei
4. Guan Yu (i suggest use kukubeh one, his one look nice...who got the picture)
5. Zhang Fei
6. Zhang Liao
7. pawns (how many for each side?)
8. scratch build Tiger Gate (can use the tiger head from marine, but is it an individual part? if not who can sacrifice his one)
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9. build the ground(sandy? grass filed? etc?)
10. need a case to cover?

basic requirements of the models: hmm.gif
1. the models must be color, no sticker except eyes
u can color it with AB, brush, spray can, marker etc as long as it is colored

2. must cover seam lines
tutorial of removing seam line

no matter how pro or how noob ur kit is, it all right
we just wanna have fun rclxm9.gif

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post Nov 24 2008, 02:07 AM

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QUOTE(zefflodo @ Nov 24 2008, 01:31 AM)
juz a tips if anyone wanna cover seamlines can use gam gajah....
i am using that.......but side effect is a bit difficult to sand but is cheaper than putty.....

juz apply thin layer is enuff.....
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normal cement will do smile.gif

QUOTE(cyruz13 @ Nov 24 2008, 01:40 AM)
har.. want to cover Seamline ar.. .>.<  die lor.... >.<
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haha laugh.gif
i din't ask for cover putty yet... shocking.gif
u can also mod, cover holes with putty & etc as u like biggrin.gif

QUOTE(kukubeh @ Nov 24 2008, 01:42 AM)
respam my guan yu.  tongue.gif

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dun want use this guan yu for group build la. for group build i want to mod the arm and leg join so that it can be more posable.
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okey

QUOTE(cyruz13 @ Nov 24 2008, 01:45 AM)
If use the guan yu.. we need to stick to green as the color scheme for guan yu's gangs~!! rite? hmm.gif PS .. yor kepala punya visor tu why no color it? tongue.gif

Zefflodo: that one whole LYN also know liao.. KUKUBEH Handpaint is SIFU Level~!! notworthy.gif
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the color scheme we discuss later rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(kukubeh @ Nov 24 2008, 01:54 AM)
thanks to bakuc the thread move fast. lol.

last spam before sleep.
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selamat malam....
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u are in for a general rclxms.gif
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post Nov 24 2008, 02:23 AM

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some reference of Tiger Gate
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post Nov 24 2008, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Nov 24 2008, 09:26 AM)
I want to make small soldiers! btw, my initial idea for a dio was somewhat different. I do recall the tiger gate being built accross a narrow ravine but that look plain ugly. I suggest three levels. The lowest out front (and perhaps a bit towards the left) would be where the main stars are - lu bu and the 3 brothers. Our best modellers should be working on these. Second level, more towards the left and middle would be zhang liao and a group of pawns. He was defending the gate wasn't he, as part of lu bu's forces? then we can try make it look as if he's trying yo attack the siege towers. Up top and towards the back on the gate wouls be our soldiers. i think the size of the second dio zoidx posted looks about right. The thing is, most dios i see neglect to build upwards, which is a shame.
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can u draw out ur idea just like i did?
a simple one can do notworthy.gif
siege tower need to scratch build? hmm.gif

QUOTE(striderozy @ Nov 24 2008, 10:07 AM)
Pictures taken from game:


Added on November 24, 2008, 10:09 amI am thinking to make those flags.....

Without flags, the war scenario is like lack of something.....
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user posted image
we can cut the country name from the package and make some flags biggrin.gif

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post Nov 24 2008, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(striderozy @ Nov 24 2008, 12:32 PM)
I am thinking to make flags with each general's surname one.....

Anyone else know where to get cheap small soldiers?
I have been asking this question for months.....  blush.gif
Cheap here means less than RM5 each. Dont mind if is pirated one.
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the cheapest i saw is RM5...
if wanna make general surname flag,
i think we have to print it ourselves...
we like got 5 generals, who carry the flags, the pawns?

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post Nov 24 2008, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(dmc18sx @ Nov 24 2008, 05:18 PM)
Dont have any SD Sanguo photo to share yet...... so just share my favourite SD GP20A....  biggrin.gif 
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this one also gosu rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Nov 24 2008, 05:19 PM)

Front view of what i have in mind - a small but packed dio cause i think many dio's fail cause they have too much empty space.
But not sure if we can fit horses the three brothers...


Added on November 24, 2008, 5:20 pm@dmc18sx , very nice.
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post Nov 25 2008, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(striderozy @ Nov 24 2008, 09:07 PM)
May be the empty space, can add some weapons like the stone throwers......
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who wanna scratch build this one? smile.gif

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post Nov 25 2008, 01:46 AM

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just a noob work...dont laugh at me rclxs0.gif
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