Do I need a component video cable for my LCD TV?, Component cable vs. RCA cable
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 Oct 28 2008, 07:57 PM, updated 16y ago
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Can somebody tells me if I need to get a better picture quality on my LCD TV, do I need
a component video cable for my 32" LCD TV? Now I am using RCA cable. Somebody told me component video cable does not make any difference from RCA cable for the picture quality on LCD TV, he said buying a component cable is just wasting money, he also said just use RCA cable is good enough.  What do you guys think?Thanks This post has been edited by andrewH: Oct 28 2008, 08:00 PM |
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Oct 28 2008, 08:18 PM
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Because my DVD player does not have a HDMI feature.
If I play a normal DVD on a HDMI DVD player and with a HDMI cable, will I get a better picture quality if comparing to RCA cable? I thought HDMI is perfect for Blu-Ray discs only? This post has been edited by andrewH: Nov 2 2008, 10:22 PM |
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Oct 28 2008, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Oct 28 2008, 09:20 PM) Thanks for the link.But should I get a component cable for my DVD player? I went to Carrefour yesterday, I noticed 3 types of component video cables sold in Carrefour: (1) Carrefour brand with a a very thin cable type, selling for RM 9.10 (2) Another type of mid range component cable, selling at RM 60 (3) Fiber optic type, selling at RM 129 Do you think Carrefour brand (RM 9.10) is good enough? Thanks This post has been edited by andrewH: Aug 29 2010, 12:40 AM |
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Oct 28 2008, 08:45 PM
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Yes, I did read the link from the beginning to the end.
For Carrefour one selling at RM 9.10, it is not gold plated. For RM 60 type, I am not sure if it is gold plated. For component cable, is it the longer the better? I need only 1 meter.. Where to find gold plated component cable for less than RM 30? Jalan Pasar? |
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Oct 29 2008, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Oct 28 2008, 09:52 PM) I'm not sure where you can find them.. I bought mine for RM5.50 3m gold plated, but I'm from KK. As for the length, the shorter the better. If your eyes aren't that sensitive the RM9.10 should do the job just fine. Thanks for your valuable info. Added on October 29, 2008, 12:36 am QUOTE(xxboxx @ Oct 29 2008, 12:57 AM) the most important question first is does your LCD have COMPONENT INPUT? the component input is the 3 RCA type input with the Red-Green-Blue colour. and then you have to check your tv support what DISPLAY MODE. 480p? 720p? 1080p? all? The expensive one is real gold...??? I see....Ouh....!!! Yes, my LCD TV has 2 sets of component inputs Display mode..? I think can support at least 720p? My LCD TV is not full HD. back to your player, you also need to know your player support what DISPLAY MODE. DVD disc are only 480p, but if the player support upscaling (720p / 1080p), the picture WILL look better. My DVD player is GMC brand (made in Malaysia), I bought it for RM 109 more than 1 year ago. Yes, my GMC DVD player has 1 set of component input. Wah...  720p / or 1080p???? now back to your question, if you only running 480p, normal RCA will still be acceptable, just try use those red-white-yellow cable that you got and and plug into the red-green-blue place and see the quality. I will do it... btw: you still need to enable the setting in the player menu, don't just CUCUK and expect the player to think by itself.  Huh...  . quite technical knowledge.. Thanks for teaching.  it's not really gold, it's just colouring. the expensive one is real gold because gold is the best conductive material. But the coloring (gold plated) component cable can help to get for a better picture quality? Or the "coloring gold plated" just make the component cable looks like more "high tech" cable only? What do you guys think of this Philip component cable? It is RM 29.00 Under what condition we should use Fiber Optic component cable? This post has been edited by andrewH: Aug 29 2010, 12:41 AM |
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Oct 29 2008, 12:45 AM
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I am sorry, what is a composite?
Is it something to do with a component cable? Added on October 29, 2008, 12:50 am QUOTE(kazasho @ Oct 29 2008, 01:45 AM) since I close the thread and read here about the RGB, what is the different between RGB and Component cable? is Component cable got the audio(red white) cable and RGB dont have? am I rite? To my understanding of RGB, RGB is where we use VGA cable for connection.RGB does not have audio function, so we will need to get a sound function from other devices. Like sound card for computer. This post has been edited by andrewH: Oct 29 2008, 01:08 AM |
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Oct 29 2008, 12:56 AM
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QUOTE(kazasho @ Oct 29 2008, 01:54 AM) ooo. so RGB is RGB only You mean RGB is not VGA??Component is RGB + Audio. something like that.  |
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Oct 29 2008, 01:11 AM
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Oct 29 2008, 02:02 AM) I'll explain again here (done that in my FAQ), composite is the yellow RCA cable that you get along with red & white (stereo sound) which comes normally with your console purchase. RGB and component are different in terms of the amount of green output (if explain in very general term). In Malaysia it's near impossible to get RGB capable equipments, so people hardly get the chance to enjoy the purest form of video display here. Component comprised of 60% or more green, but it hardly differ from RGB if you can't compare them side by side (since human eyes are much more sensitive to green color than red and blue put together). Huh.... today I have learned a lot.... VGA(or to be precise, the D-sub 15 pin) is just one of many ways of displaying RGB, so you are right andrewH. Thank you... |
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Oct 29 2008, 01:46 AM
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QUOTE(Ngto @ Oct 29 2008, 02:33 AM) 1) Composite Video (Single Yellow cable for Video, White/Red for Audio) is the worse quality. This is because all the colour signals are passed through only one single cable (Yellow). I think HDMI is not practical to use now due to its high cost of Blu-Ray discs2) Component Video cables uses three different cables for each colour signals so it is much better Video quality than Composite. Normally the three separate cables are coloured Red, Blue and Green. There must be a component output from your DVD player and a Component Input on your LCD TV in order to use the Component Cable. You must also match the colours from Input to Output in order to get the correct video. (Btw you can also use three different normal Composite cables to function as Component Cables, but make sure they are of good quality). 3) HDMI video is the best quality. It is a single cable used for both digital video signal and sound. (Take note that the signal is Digital as opposed to Composite and Component which are Analog. Digital signal, as long as the cable is decent enough to carry the signal (even a cheap one will do) will output the same quality as a very expensive one. That's the beauty of Digital. Normally HDMI can not ony be found on Blu-ray players but also DVD players which can upscale normal DVDs to 720P,1080i, 1080P . These upscale DVD players are of course more expensive than the standard DVD players without upscale function. and HDMI DVD player. I will get a component cable which I think is more practical to use for this time being. Thanks... This post has been edited by andrewH: Oct 30 2008, 06:45 PM |
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Oct 29 2008, 02:03 AM
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QUOTE(Ngto @ Oct 29 2008, 02:53 AM) Composite use one single RCA cable for video. Upscale DVD player with HDMI...!! Component uses three different RCA for Video. Upscale DVD players with HDMI are quite cheap now. The HDMI cables are also quite cheap. No point buying a very expensive cable because the video quality will be exactly the same since it's digital signal. I assume component is running on analog signal? |
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Oct 29 2008, 02:22 AM
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QUOTE(Ngto @ Oct 29 2008, 03:12 AM) Component uses three different RCA for Video. You can even use your normal composite cable (Yellow/Red/White) to function as Component cable. Instead of plugging the Red/White cable to the audio, plug them to the Component Video instead. Get another set of cables for your audio if you need it. Wah... like that ah.? Example :- Plug the Yellow cable to the Component Green Input/Output. Plug the Red cable to the Component Red Input/Output. Plug the White cable to the Component Blue Input/Output. Note, Since it's anolog signal, the better quality cable will give a clearer Video Quality. I do not dare to do this, maybe will get short circuit on my TV...  I have to admit that I am a "jungle man" in this area.. I just get a regular component cable to play safe. Thank you for your help... This post has been edited by andrewH: Oct 29 2008, 02:23 AM |
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Oct 29 2008, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE(Ngto @ Oct 29 2008, 03:29 AM) Please also take note that your LCD TV also has a built-in upscale function. If you do not have an upscale DVD player, the video will only be passed to the TV at 480P resolution through Component Cable and the TV itself will updcale to your TV resolution. Thank you. But normally the TV upscale quality is not as good at that from the Upscale DVD player which uses a better chip (depending on which Brand) to upscale to 720P/1080P before passing to the TV. Added on October 29, 2008, 2:35 am The component cables they sell are also the same Composite type cables. They only colour it differently so you don't plug wrongly that's all. Even the LCD shops sometimes use Composite cables to fuction as Component cables. I appreciate for all your help.I will get one component cable soon... Added on October 29, 2008, 7:57 pm QUOTE(xxboxx @ Oct 29 2008, 08:50 PM) i never heard of anyone short-circuited their equipment by plug-in the cable wrongly. Thank you!! just make sure you plug the colour accordingly, otherwise you see the tv colour disoriented. Just joking lah... usually the component cable has a thicker layer of rubber coating to give a better shield against signal interferences. Added on October 29, 2008, 8:03 pmAfter I bought the component cable, I will show you guys the picture... Thanks again.... This post has been edited by andrewH: Aug 29 2010, 12:42 AM |
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Nov 1 2008, 04:45 PM
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Finally I bought a component cable for RM 15.00 (1.5 meter long).
Please see attached picture for the component cable that I bought. I want to tell you guys a joke: I pulled out the RCA cable, and I installed this new component cable into my LCD TV's component output and to my DVD player's component input. I was very excited about to see how good the picture will be after changing this new component cable on my LCD TV..., all right, after I configured a correct component detection setting on my LCD TV, all right..., picture came out from my TV........yeee???  How come no sound? Oh...I was thinking maybe I connected the component cable wrongly, double checked again, it seemed no problem with the component cable connection setting, yeeee? Okay, checked the TV setting with my TV remote control, oh.. I did not find any problems with my TV setting....why still no sound..? Okay, I changed the DVD movie, still no sound...why aah...? Then I turned on my PC and came to this thread again, and I found the answer here...  , the component cable is for video only, it has no sound. I quickly connected my RCA (red and white) cable back into my TV, the sound worked.... Ha..ha.. Funny ..huh.... Okay, after I have changed my RCA to component, I am not sure if any significant improvement of the picture quality, unless if I have two TVs side by side with component and RCA respectively, then probably I can tell the difference. But I noticed more reddish on the picture when use component cable, so I have to reduce the level of the picture mode on my LCD TV. And I noticed my LCD TV is running at 576p, is it good? normal? or bad? Thanks.... This post has been edited by andrewH: Aug 29 2010, 12:43 AM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Nov 1 2008, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Nov 1 2008, 05:49 PM) 576p mean your DVD player running on pal format, nothing to worry about. And it's on progressive scan mode, good for you, you are maximising the DVD usage now Oh...Thank you...!!In Malaysia, are we using PAL format? Added on November 1, 2008, 4:55 pmIf I want to get a better sound quality from my TV, do I need to buy a better quality audio cable? Or RCA cable (red and white) is good enough? Thanks... This post has been edited by andrewH: Nov 1 2008, 04:55 PM |
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Nov 1 2008, 05:24 PM
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Oh..Thanks..!
I do not have home theater system (I hate the wiring). My conclusion of this posting: There is no doubt component is always much better than RCA, since I understand that component is using 3 different thick cables to deliver Red Green Blue; meanwhile RCA is only using one Yellow thin cable to deliver Red Green Blue. This is no comparison at all in between these 2 cables in terms of delivering good quality picture. I am glad that I have changed to component cable. I will use HDMI when Blu Ray discs are cheap... like RM 15.00? Thanks again...everybody... Added on November 1, 2008, 5:30 pm QUOTE(budakhops @ Nov 1 2008, 04:36 PM) COMPOSITE<S-VIDEO<COMPONENT<HDMI Oh...Thank you.usually composite n s-video only being able to carry Standard Definition (SD) 480p or lower. but the Component n HDMI can carry av signal up to 1080p. I have learned a lot from many professionals here... Thanks again..! This post has been edited by andrewH: Nov 1 2008, 05:30 PM |
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Nov 2 2008, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(Ngto @ Nov 2 2008, 11:40 AM) Either your DVD player is set to PAL mode or it is set to Auto but your DVD disc itself is PAL movie. I set my CMC DVD player in 3 different modes and came out with the following results:Set your DVD player video mode to Auto and try another DVD movie which is in NTSC format. (1) Pal (under progressive) -- 576p (2) NTSC (under progressive) -- 480p (3) Multi (under progresive) -- 480p How do I get 720p? Do I need to change to a better DVD player to get 720p? I think my JVC LCD TV can support 720p... In order to get 1080p, I need a full HD LCD TV and DVD player with HDMI..? and also need to use Blu-Ray disc? Right? Thanks This post has been edited by andrewH: Nov 2 2008, 04:22 PM |
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Nov 2 2008, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Nov 2 2008, 04:53 PM) or you might want to do what i'm doing. if your pc graphic card have dvi output, buy a dvi-to-hdmi converter. then you can run 720p or 1080p from your computer to tv. Wah.!!!.. Like that aah....???!!!   very interesting....  To buy a DVI-to-HDMI converter....  In fact, I want to use my LCD TV to connect to my computer to watch movies online. My computer has a 8X AGP 128MB with DVI output. I am going to use this solution.... Thank you so much.... This post has been edited by andrewH: Aug 29 2010, 12:45 AM |
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Nov 2 2008, 08:26 PM
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I have a lot of things to learn in this area....
Last time when I used CRT TV, I just straight plugged in the RCA cable and watch DVD and VCD only. Will I get 720p or 1080p if I play normal DVD movies on a DVD player with HDMI feature? I will not buy Blu-Ray due to its high price now. If I do not use Blu-Ray disc, is a DVD player with HDMI necessary for me? Or a component cable is good enough for playing normal DVD..?? Thanks.. This post has been edited by andrewH: Nov 2 2008, 10:25 PM |
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Nov 2 2008, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Nov 2 2008, 11:10 PM) 1st of all, you might want to stop mentioning about pirate dvd, or anything related to pirate for that matter. this forum does not condone piracy. the only pirate you can mention is Jack Sparrow, Se7en is a big fan of the man. Yeah loh..  Oh..okay, sorry, I was just a bit too straight forward....  dvd dics, no matter which one, only max to 480p. you can upscale it by player that support upscaling, but the quality can't compete with true 720p / 1080p video. All right..got it. But how do I know which DVD player can do upscaling? For example, A modern DVD player with DIVX can provide better upscaling than my CMC DVD player? my old CMC DVD player does not have DIVX feature... you have to understand what HDMI is. it is just a way to connect to your tv. the only different of HDMI and component from composite (Yellow RCA) is this 2 connection can carry signal until 1080p while composite can only carry 480i. All right, crystal clear... .Thanks you might want to read this thread to understand better of HDTV HDTV FAQ  . I really need some tution...Thanks again for the link and everything... Added on November 2, 2008, 11:13 pm QUOTE(Ngto @ Nov 2 2008, 11:39 PM) The purpose of an upscale DVD player is to upconvert ALL types of DVDs from the standard 480P to 720P/1080i and upwards using HDMI. This is for those who have not yet upgrade to Blu-ray but want something in-between for the time being. HDMI is not exclusive to just Blu-ray. It's just a digital component standard for transmission of HD quality signals. Thanks for the great info. The quality of the upconverted picture depends on the Brand of the player and the quality of the processing Chip used in the player. Of course the quality won't be as good as the real thing from a Blu-ray player. Sometimes a really bad upscale player can be worse that the upscale done by your TV using a standard DVD player through Component. But this rare. (Note:- FYI, Upscale players used to be able to upconvert to 720P/1080i through Component video also in the early days, but they are not allowed to do that anymore nowadays because of some regulations/protection and other issues. So the current upscale players only upconvert using HDMI now) This helps me a lot...!! I want to try how to get to 720p... Any big difference in between 1080p to 720p? Besides the comfort and enjoyment, I believe watching on a better picture quality from TV is better for our eyes. Thanks again!!! This post has been edited by andrewH: Nov 2 2008, 11:13 PM |
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Nov 2 2008, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE(Ngto @ Nov 3 2008, 12:25 AM) If your TV is only 720P/1080i and not not full HD (1080P), your TV wont be able to accept the 1080P signal from your upscale DVD player. You will probably get a blank screen. You will have to make do with a 720P/1080i signal which is sufficient for normal DVDs. Huah... Take note, 1080i is not full HD, only 1080P is full HD. 1080i is more like 720P in terms of quality. To take full advantage of 1080P you need a Full HD LCD TV and a Blu-ray player playing a Blu-ray movie. 1080i and 1080p...?? What is the difference in between :i" and "p"?? I guess 1080P is true full HD? Meanwhile for 1080i is something like from a upscaling? right? This post has been edited by andrewH: Nov 2 2008, 11:34 PM |
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