ice have yet to fight w4si or dna sk in local tournaments ( or lan tournament that i know of recently.. )

but ice have defeated mkvl almost everytime they met thought

latest tournament at sino

1. KS
2. Ice
3. mkvl

hard to say who is better amongst the top 2,3,4,5 of malaysia since Ice always beat mkvl but mkvl always place behind w4si,dna-sk in other tournaments and yet mkvl never fail to win dna-sk and w4si if they meet...

so i would say kingsurf is no doubt no.1

but the 2nd,3rd,4th, and 5th are close and they can win each other in any day .. thought in my opinion w4si is more consistent than mkvl ( according to tournament placing )

as for Ice they seldom meet w4si in tournament so i hope the next local tournament can see w4si and ice fight against each other ...